[STGOD] Primary Story Thread

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-19 06:36pm

Thirdfain wrote:Oh, and ask your Skaven allies again about the Kokand- They appear to have found a number of Kokand agents infiltrating other members of the NBA.

Naturally the Kokand had agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Floater Republics. We have agents in the Asgard Empire. We have agents in the NRE. We have agents in the Monacoran Empire. And we have agents in many more nations besides. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-19 06:37pm

I agree fully, I am just saying that the NRE/DE/KSE might want to bicker over the details, not over taking this planet or that planet from you.

Well, then put it to them. We'll see what results.

Your welcome, and many thanks for making this a much more enjoyable and peaceful proccess then the Kokkands would have made it before.

Kindly avoid slandering my allies and indeed, now my citizens.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-19 06:39pm

Stormbringer wrote:
I agree fully, I am just saying that the NRE/DE/KSE might want to bicker over the details, not over taking this planet or that planet from you.
Well, then put it to them. We'll see what results.

Exactly what I would like.

Your welcome, and many thanks for making this a much more enjoyable and peaceful proccess then the Kokkands would have made it before.
Kindly avoid slandering my allies and indeed, now my citizens.

Sorry, not meant as a slandering statement. My apologies. Though I still want to know about the Total or Partial Withdrawl from Africa that I asked about before?

EDIT: Fixed a quotation error.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-19 06:39pm

Partisan claims are not the kind of evidence that I would accpet as being legal evidence. Especially evidence based solely on hearsay.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-19 06:43pm

Thirdfain wrote:ATTN: Asgard Diplomatic Office
FROM: UFR Office of Diplomacy and War
SUBJ: Arms shipment

Recently, Intelligence operatives have stumbled across evidence of weapons smugglers attempting to move shipments of plasma rifles, recoilless machineguns, and zero-g grenades into the Cluster of Zarathrustra. As weapons trading is not a crime in Zarathrustra, we are unable to follow up on their attempt. We are not sure why they would want to smuggle weapons in, but the fact they are attempting to do so stealthily indicates that they are up to no good.

We have tracked the vessels making the drop off, and we believe was can pinpoint their next drop, near the Soirheytz controlled section of the Sol System asteroid field.

If an Asgard destroyer could arrange to arrive on the scene of the trade, if you understand what we are saying, it would be much appreciated, and perhaps we could gain an understanding of what exactly is going on here.

We will do what we can. However ships are short and unless it was an Asgard vessel we could not legally seize it.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-19 06:45pm

Beowulf wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Oh, and ask your Skaven allies again about the Kokand- They appear to have found a number of Kokand agents infiltrating other members of the NBA.
Naturally the Kokand had agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Floater Republics. We have agents in the Asgard Empire. We have agents in the NRE. We have agents in the Monacoran Empire. And we have agents in many more nations besides. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Here I have to agree with the OU. And I will freely admit we have agents throughly infiltrated into every Earth Bound nation, and a couple of non-Earth bound nations. We have a very large counter-espionage unit going, but every time we find a spy we usually just give them the boot and forbid them from re-entry, not assume that they are all going to kill me.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-19 06:45pm

Beowulf wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Oh, and ask your Skaven allies again about the Kokand- They appear to have found a number of Kokand agents infiltrating other members of the NBA.
Naturally the Kokand had agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Floater Republics. We have agents in the Asgard Empire. We have agents in the NRE. We have agents in the Monacoran Empire. And we have agents in many more nations besides. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

After all no one batted an eye when The Pack's External Intel. operations began setting up peaceful corporations with in just about everywhere. It only seemed logical. There's nothing wrong with intel forces. Now illegal combatants, black ops teams and the like are kind of different, it's not like we can really declare them or anything..

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-19 06:47pm

Sorry, not meant as a slandering statement. My apologies.

Accepted.

Though I still want to know about the Total or Partial Withdrawl from Africa that I asked about before?

We are willing to seceed the contested areas in Africa and Arabia to the NRE and your nation in return for dropping of any claims to Kokand extra-Solar Holdings. As well as the right for the NRE's resumed right to colonize Mars.

We must however insist on the de-militarizing of Africa and Arabia after any such concession. It is not our desire to continue to re-fight the same war.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-19 06:48pm

Naturally the Kokand had agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Floater Republics. We have agents in the Asgard Empire. We have agents in the NRE. We have agents in the Monacoran Empire. And we have agents in many more nations besides. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Unless your worlds produce 6-7 foot tall people with pitch-black skin designed to protect against radiation, prehensile toes, and cardiovascular/skeletal systems designed to stand up to the rigors of zero-G, we doubt you have any agents in our Republics.

Ask the Skaven what they have found. We are not privy to the details, but something about it prompted them to ask for the removal of the Kokand Empire from the NBA.

Partisan claims are not the kind of evidence that I would accpet as being legal evidence. Especially evidence based solely on hearsay.

We will leave the case to neutral investigators.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-19 06:50pm

Stormbringer wrote:We are willing to seceed the contested areas in Africa to the NRE and your nation in return for dropping of any claims to Kokand extra-Solar Holdings. As well as the right for the NRE's resumed right to colonize Mars.

We must however insist on the de-militarizing of Africa after any such concession. It is not our desire to continue to re-fight the same war.

We promise only to put Garrison Regiments, taken from our garrisons in teritory belonging to our North African Allies, in our part of Africa if you would promise to not pu tlines units in your section. However I want it understood that if more men are moved into Africa by either you or the NRE we will not be ashamed, or restricted from, moving line units into our teritories in Africa.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-19 06:52pm

Beowulf wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Oh, and ask your Skaven allies again about the Kokand- They appear to have found a number of Kokand agents infiltrating other members of the NBA.
Naturally the Kokand had agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Floater Republics. We have agents in the Asgard Empire. We have agents in the NRE. We have agents in the Monacoran Empire. And we have agents in many more nations besides. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

I noticed you dont have any agents in DE territory. I find this rather ironic...well, not really, considering the near imposibility of having covert ops in our failities for any length of time....

On this note, the DE senate thinks it is high time to display our true...xenobiology....

*wide broadcast on all channels*

As you are fully aware, the people of the DE keep themselves under shrouds with sensor inhibitors while in public....Only I allow myself to be seen without a shroud.

Alyrium presses a button on his utility/combat belt. And the holographic image of a human shimmers and disappears. revealing a reptilian humanoid. Green scales cover a roughly human body frame, his eyes become yellow and slitted. they shimmer, and reflect light back to the source. A pair of small fangs are visible when the snakelike head opens its mouth, and a set of claws protrudes from the 5 fingered hands.

As it has becomesomewhat obvious...we are not human.

We will of course sign the terms of the non-aggression pact, and the WMD treaty.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-19 07:00pm

Thirdfain wrote:
Naturally the Kokand had agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Skaven Empire. We have agents in the Floater Republics. We have agents in the Asgard Empire. We have agents in the NRE. We have agents in the Monacoran Empire. And we have agents in many more nations besides. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
Unless your worlds produce 6-7 foot tall people with pitch-black skin designed to protect against radiation, prehensile toes, and cardiovascular/skeletal systems designed to stand up to the rigors of zero-G, we doubt you have any agents in our Republics.

You do realize that when I say agent, I don't mean a citizen of the OU. To do that would be simply... stupid. And we have been well are that the DE is made up of reptilian humanoids.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-05-19 07:05pm

Being different species does not preclude having agents. In our case, somebody used various measures to obtain the services of Skaven about to enter various parts of the government and military. Interrogation in the field obtained confessions of serving the Kokand. Unfortunately the suspects were executed prematurely, precluding proper questioning. Investigations have revealed that somebody has been poking around our empire, but whoever it is has covered their tracks very well.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-05-19 07:08pm

Beowulf wrote:Although the OU questions the validity of that court ruling, we will sign the treaty so long as it stipulates that it only applies to weapons designed to hit surface targets.

Agreed. This treaty was not intended to prevent nations from defending themselves.

And, if the OU thinks that the law is without validity, then we would point it to the facts. The PSR has more people and controlled territory in Sol than most nations have in their own colonial systems, yet no one questions their control over the whole space of this systems.

(OOC: Yay! It's nearly impossible to take out my planet based defenses without violating the treaty!)

ooc: That was part of the idea. A) It made good roleplay sense for the PSR, B) It makes it quite difficult for Earth powers to permanently destroy eachother, and C) It removes strategic paralysis from the equation.

Strategic paralysis can really make an STGOD a boring OOB-boosting game. In the STGOD mk1, it got to such a stage that a few people (myself and Marina) actually had to go and set up threats that had no fixed homeland to destroy in order for anything to really happen.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-19 07:08pm

Raxmei wrote:Being different species does not preclude having agents. In our case, somebody used various measures to obtain the services of Skaven about to enter various parts of the government and military. Interrogation in the field obtained confessions of serving the Kokand. Unfortunately the suspects were executed prematurely, precluding proper questioning. Investigations have revealed that somebody has been poking around our empire, but whoever it is has covered their tracks very well.

::whistles innocently::

Seeing the Kokkand now Defunct I see no reason for you to continue this worthless investigation.

(OOC: I didn't do it, I promise you. Our style of infiltration is much more passive.)

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-19 07:12pm

Simply speaking, it's fairly easy to set up a level 1 operation with in a system, that's simply a business, that looses money, but is owned by the intellegence network involved with normal trade, and getting basic information, out. Like what propaganda, attitudes etc.

From that more advanced psychology modles are used and second level agents are inserted, to set up cells of people (No bodies really, from within your own citizenry), once that has grown, we can turn a few into a covert operations hubs. It's not like trying to insert a full "Black Ops" team in and use them for basic spy craft.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-19 07:33pm

Raxmei wrote:Being different species does not preclude having agents. In our case, somebody used various measures to obtain the services of Skaven about to enter various parts of the government and military. Interrogation in the field obtained confessions of serving the Kokand. Unfortunately the suspects were executed prematurely, precluding proper questioning. Investigations have revealed that somebody has been poking around our empire, but whoever it is has covered their tracks very well.

Such a situation is very unlikely with us. As..well... lets just say that we have no need for a prison system, and the notion of betrayal is a foriegn concept to all but the most prominent politicians, and they only know it in passing reference to other nations.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-19 10:23pm

Monacoran Diplomatic Corps Release
From: The Office of the Regent
To: Durandal's Empire, the New Roman Empire, The Mensia-Dorien Hegemoney, the Pan-Slavic Union, and the Floater Republic

It has come to our attention that we, with the exception of the Pan-Slavic Union, have been fighting jointly together for some time now, without the pressence of an offical alliance. Thus we have re-broached an old idea of ours. The purpose of this Alliance would be soley militaristic, with an attack on one member nation being taken as an attack on all member nations, and with joint military training, exercises, and a partially meshed command. The Articles of this treaty are not completley written out here for the purpose of allowing much negotiating leeway. You response is welcome, and if you choose to attend, offical negotiations will be taking place in Ordino, Andorra tommorow. The offical naming will also take place then.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-19 10:29pm

Bondman Executive il Jong himself will be attending, he recently had himself modified for gravity, citing a need to "become closer to his roots."

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-19 10:53pm

To: The ambassadors from the Pan-Slavic Republic, the North American Union, the Fenris Clans, and the Minmatar.

From: The OU Department of State

Re: Military Alliance

The Oceania Union is looking for new members in the New Beijing Alliance. We would like to know if anyone is interested in joining.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-19 11:00pm

From: Asgard Foreign Office
Re: Negotiations

We are waiting final word of the proposed treaty. We hope to hear about it soon.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-19 11:01pm

3 months ago, somewhere between OU space and the Asgard Empire:

A freighter with a frigate escort come under attack by a large force of what are presumably pirates. Amongst the cargo on board the freighter are several dozen tons of highly enriched Uranium, a by-product of the Depleted Uranium manufacturing process. It's being transfered to the Asgard from the OU. The frigate is quickly annihilated by the pirates. The pirates board the freighter and take the Uranium, leaving the freighter a drifting derelict.

The Uranium quickly is put in the hands of a number of Krytos Seperatists. Their objective: build a number of nuclear weapons that aren't registered by any government.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-05-19 11:36pm

Beowulf wrote:To: The ambassadors from the Pan-Slavic Republic, the North American Union, the Fenris Clans, and the Minmatar.

From: The OU Department of State

Re: Military Alliance

The Oceania Union is looking for new members in the New Beijing Alliance. We would like to know if anyone is interested in joining.

The Pan-Slavic Republic is interested in joining the NBA, considering the apparently defunct status of the Democratic League.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-19 11:37pm

Straha wrote:Monacoran Diplomatic Corps Release
From: The Office of the Regent
To: Durandal's Empire, the New Roman Empire, The Mensia-Dorien Hegemoney, the Pan-Slavic Union, and the Floater Republic

It has come to our attention that we, with the exception of the Pan-Slavic Union, have been fighting jointly together for some time now, without the pressence of an offical alliance. Thus we have re-broached an old idea of ours. The purpose of this Alliance would be soley militaristic, with an attack on one member nation being taken as an attack on all member nations, and with joint military training, exercises, and a partially meshed command. The Articles of this treaty are not completley written out here for the purpose of allowing much negotiating leeway. You response is welcome, and if you choose to attend, offical negotiations will be taking place in Ordino, Andorra tommorow. The offical naming will also take place then.

Ambassador Rinith Malathrax will be attending.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-19 11:48pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:The Pan-Slavic Republic is interested in joining the NBA, considering the apparently defunct status of the Democratic League.

The New Beijing Alliance would be more than happy to have you join. We have no doubt that you will make an excellent member.