Jedi in the Anla-Shok

goten · Post by **goten** » 2002-09-08 11:28pm

How do you think it would effect the B5 universe if Jedi were in the Rangers

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-09-08 11:35pm

The Jedi/Rangers would be stationed two to a ship instead of each Ranger commanding one White Star. In this manner, one could successfully employ their telepathic powers against Shadow forces during the Great War. Following the War, they would be sent on more law enforcement operations, and on a more permanent basis to individual planets or even cities, where they would be tasked with helping the ISA's cause throguh political and social means. Others would be assigned to hospitals or trouble spots around the B5 universe, and still others would be tasked with travelling the space lanes.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-09-09 12:27am

goten wrote:How do you think it would effect the B5 universe if Jedi were in the Rangers

Unless you're talking Jedi wth EU-caliber 'blow up a star with a thought' Force powers, not much. The key problems for the Rangers in the aftermath of the shadow war are a severe lack of competant leadership and a chronic lack of resources. Adding Jedi isn't going do a damn thing for either of these problems--and until they're fixed the Rangers won't be any better off and nothing will change.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-10 07:57am

Since there is only Jedi and no movie or EU jedi as people errorenously like to divide them up into, they are just that star slapping jedi yes

I won't even bother to address the fallacies and hasty generalizations you just pulled...

adam warlock · Post by **adam warlock** » 2002-09-10 12:04pm

Since there is only Jedi and no movie or EU jedi as people errorenously like to divide them up into, they are just that star slapping jedi yes

if youre talking about exar kun..
that particular star bursting was due to ancient sith tech, used by one of exars cronies aleema.
they were near a set of stars, which very were close together (with distances between them ranging from 1-4 times the diameter of the average size star there)
the tech basically destroyed the core of one star, causing it to implode.. then nova.. which also resulted in the destruction of nearby stars, and the rest within that closely knit star system.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/5147/exarhisc.htm

also read... tales of the jedi: the sith war (graphic novel - originally a 6 part story published by darkhorse comics)

also from starwars.com

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/exarkun/

His followers triggered ancient technologies that detonated the stars of the Cron Cluster, wiping out entire worlds and searing the surface of Ossus.

..no star slapping jedi/sith.. PERIOD.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-10 01:25pm

Oh, Adam, the pleasure is all yours I am sure.

[Addressing forum in general]
As for Siths destroying stars through the force, it happened, get over it, just because you scraped up a separate incident means jack-shit.

Try Naga Sadow, blew up two stars, by himself.
One being named Primus Goluud

adam warlock · Post by **adam warlock** » 2002-09-10 02:35pm

well from..

http://www.angelfire.com/ks/TheBlackHand/hist.html

Regrouping his forces at Primus Gould, Sadow drew the Republic forces there for a trap that resulted in the supernova of Primus Gould, an already "unstable" star.

an already unstable star...

http://www.starwarsguild.com/nagasadow.htm

In a flight against capture from the Republic, Sadow used the "Sith stones" built into his ship to rip the cores from two of the stars in the Denarii System, thus crushing his predators.

sith stones..the same sith stones used by exar kun to destory the cron system.

but hang on a summary of issue 4 of the fall of the sith empire, given in

http://knightweb.virtualave.net/comics/ ... fall4.html

As Jori tries to understand why Gav killed Aarba, Gav runs back to the shuttle. Jori takes a ship and follows him as he goes to find Naga Sadow. Gav heads to Primus Goluud, an "unstable star where" Sadow and his meditation sphere are. As he closes on the sphere, he fires, attempting to disrupt Sadow's concentration. It works, as the combined Republic and Jedi forces finally begin to turn the tide. Sadow convinces Gav to come aboard the sphere to talk things over with him, and Gav foolishly agrees. Sadow leaves him aboars the sphere, abandoning him. Meanwhile, on Kirrek, the Sith invaders still have the advantage. Master Ooroo takes away that advantage by releasing the Cyanogen gas from his suit, killing many of the invaders. The rest are dealt with when reinforcements arrive from Ronika. Back at Primus Goluud, Empress Teta's fleet arrives. Naga Sadow however, has set a trap. He has his entire fleet waiting for them in an ambush. Then, he triggers a solar flare to destroy all of them, but Gav warns them and tells the to leave before they are killed, which they do. Because the meditation sphere is crippled, Gav does not escape the explosion.

causing novas without use of artifacts or devices?..
so far no.
causing solar flares without the use of artifcats or devices?..
no..

if you have all the issues of the series, particularly issues 4 and 5.. why dont you scan them in and show us naga sadow destroying stars using his "own" power..

adam warlock · Post by **adam warlock** » 2002-09-10 02:50pm

also found in

http://www1.theforce.net/CUSWE/entries. ... 8&search=D

Denarii Nova
an area of the galaxy characterized by the exploding stars that spread arcs of stellar fire throughout its environs. It was created when the ancient Sith Lord Naga Sadow tried to elude the pursuit of the Old Republic, some 5,000 years before the Battle of Yavin. Using the Sith stones set into his unique starship, Sadow harnessed the Dark Side of the Force and tore the two Denaari stars apart as the Old Republic's fleet moved in. The fleet was destroyed, and Sadow was able to escape. Aleema tried to use the same technique a thousand years later, during the Great Sith War, and created the Cron Drift. She, however, failed to escape the destruction and was killed. (DLS, TSW, SA, L)

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-10 03:02pm

Ok, so they used those mind focusing talismans that Sith are known to use, thats not an actual reference to power that I am aware of or any power enhancer in that sense, but to discipline, take Palpatine for example, still roasted entire planets and created hyperspatial wormholes with his powers and he didn't need any mind focusing talismans.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-10 03:04pm

Oh, he did not use any talismans when blowing up Primus Goold, so your nitpick is just that, a nitpick.

And, now remind me, why are you here?

adam warlock · Post by **adam warlock** » 2002-09-10 03:22pm

Ok, so they used those mind focusing talismans that Sith are known to use, thats not an actual reference to power that I am aware of or any power enhancer in that sense, but to discipline, take Palpatine for example, still roasted entire planets and created hyperspatial wormholes with his powers and he didn't need any mind focusing talismans.

so are you saying that without this artifact that aleema would still be able to destroy the core of a star?
is she equally as strong as kun in the force?.

point is.. if exar kun or aleema can blow up a star, they wouldnt need that artifact.. the fact they did need it.. means they cant..

as for palpatine..
what do you mean by roast?..and btw those are planets you are talking about..they are a bit "different" to stars.

Oh, he did not use any talismans when blowing up Primus Goold, so your nitpick is just that, a nitpick.

if you provide a scan of this, the whole page where this is pointed this out, and before and after.. then i may believe you..

but the fact that he used these artifacts to "harness" the darkside of the force to cause the denaari stars to explode.. gives the strong possibility that he may have used them earlier on primus goold.. unless you can show otherwise.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-10 03:42pm

so are you saying that without this artifact that aleema would still be able to destroy the core of a star?
is she equally as strong as kun in the force?

The force is not just about strenght, as you should know, concentration and focus are equally important, if not possibly more important.

as for palpatine..
what do you mean by roast?..and btw those are planets you are talking about..they are a bit "different" to stars.

Impressive enough

if you provide a scan of this, the whole page where this is pointed this out, and before and after.. then i may believe you..

I don't have anything to scan.

but the fact that he used these artifacts to "harness" the darkside of the force to cause the denaari stars to explode.. gives the strong possibility that he may have used them earlier on primus goold.. unless you can show otherwise.

Why can't you find this info just as easily as you found all the others?
Seems you know where to look for it.

adam warlock · Post by **adam warlock** » 2002-09-10 03:56pm

The force is not just about strenght, as you should know, concentration and focus are equally important, if not possibly more important.

true enough.. but lets change this from measuring strength and focus to overall capability..

if they are not capable of destroying stars, without the use of mentioned objects, then they are not capable of destroying stars.

Impressive enough

i agree. but still falls far short of this star busting that people are eager to tout about...

Why can't you find this info just as easily as you found all the others?
Seems you know where to look for it.

ive looked .. no scans.. descriptions,, but no scans of the actual pages..
i will be visiting a major bookstore soon.. hopefully they have the graphic novel there.

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