Rant: Administration SUCKS!!!!!

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-05-21 11:42am

Ok, just a short little ERG!!! to vent about my day. I was supposed to take some of my kids on a field trip today. Well, I didn't because my administration decided at the LAST FUCKING MOMENT that it was going to conflict with high school assessments (hello?! This trip has been in the works for over a month now!) and cancelled it THIS MORNING. Unbefuckinglievable.

So, I've started looking for another job. Don't know if I want to stay in teaching or not, so I'm looking at all sorts of things. There's only so many times I will let myself and my kids be fucked over.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-05-21 11:47am

Yow they can do that?!

*hugs Zaia*

That sucks...well good luck in job hunting.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-05-21 11:54am

That's ridiculous. They had more than a month to let you know, it was their responsibility to do something before this point.

Sorry to hear about this, Zaia. Hope the rest of your day is better...

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-05-21 12:02pm

Iceberg wrote:That's ridiculous. They had more than a month to let you know, it was their responsibility to do something before this point.

Sorry to hear about this, Zaia. Hope the rest of your day is better...

It's called beurocratic nonsense.

I'm suprised they did it that quick.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-05-21 12:09pm

i Don't know how it is where you are, but around here people pay a ridiculous ammount of money for private music instructors ... 25, 30, hell even 50 dollars an hour isn't uncommon...depending on skill level and breadth of experience (the more instuments the better)

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-05-21 12:14pm

Ted wrote:It's called beurocratic nonsense.

Exactly.

I'm suprised they did it that quick.

Me too. I guess nothing will stop them when they feel that their job's on the line. Bunch of fucking asshats... They tried to say it was MY fault because I didn't check to make sure there were no conflicts. Umm, sorry, that's why I had to fill out forms OVER A MONTH AGO to get permission for this trip! Grrrrr.......

Col. Crackpot: I teach private music lessons too, and I charge $30/hour. That's just supplemental income.

JodoForce · Post by **JodoForce** » 2003-05-21 12:15pm

It sounds like you quit your job because of this?

I'm sure I'm reading this wrong but that's how it reads like :p

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-05-21 12:16pm

Last minute changes in training schedules due to conflicts is certainly nothing exclusive only to the Education system. In the Army, company commanders must resource training a year out, forecasting for ammunition requirements, availablity of land for training, and a multitude of other factors. Training schedules are supposed to be locked in six weeks out, after a multitude of meetings, coordination and garnering of required resources. When all that is said and done, a field-grade officer says, "I think it would be a great idea if..." Then all that planning goes down the tubes, along with dealing with whatever resources had already been allocated -- not to mention the damage done to one's quarterly budget estimates.

Throw an unplanned deployment into the mix (Iraq war), and things go to Hell in a hurry...

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-05-21 12:17pm

JodoForce wrote:It sounds like you quit your job because of this?
I'm sure I'm reading this wrong but that's how it reads like :p

I haven't technically quit yet (I have until July 1st, the beginning of the fiscal year, to find another and resign), and it isn't merely about this incident. This is the last in a series of actions like this by my admin. I've just had enough.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-05-21 12:23pm

Damn babe, shitty way to start the day. I have to say that the days of leadership are over and the days of covering ones ass is now in full effect. Did they cancel it or can you bump it up a week and do it next week?

Either way, I feel your pain.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-05-21 01:13pm

jegs2 wrote:Last minute changes in training schedules due to conflicts is certainly nothing exclusive only to the Education system. In the Army, company commanders must resource training a year out, forecasting for ammunition requirements, availablity of land for training, and a multitude of other factors. Training schedules are supposed to be locked in six weeks out, after a multitude of meetings, coordination and garnering of required resources. When all that is said and done, a field-grade officer says, "I think it would be a great idea if..." Then all that planning goes down the tubes, along with dealing with whatever resources had already been allocated -- not to mention the damage done to one's quarterly budget estimates.

Throw an unplanned deployment into the mix (Iraq war), and things go to Hell in a hurry...

Stop with the memories...

I saw enough of that stuff for a lifetime.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-05-21 01:14pm

BTW, when some higher-ups job is on the line, there is no end of the BS they will pull to save their own skin. I'm seeing it happen where I work...

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-05-21 02:38pm

EmperorMing wrote:BTW, when some higher-ups job is on the line, there is no end of the BS they will pull to save their own skin. I'm seeing it happen where I work...

That's when you pull right back.

It's them or you. Guess which is more important...

EDIT: Yes, I am evil

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-05-21 03:26pm

Zaia, although things seem to be really shitty int the BotM, this is nothing compared to what is going on, now. I know, though, that music teachers have one of the jobs where it is difficult to find a job. That's not because there's not people that could do it, but because scools are stupid enough to actually close the music programs. I'm really sorry that this had to happen, and I wish you all the luck in the world to find another, much better, job, doing what you love so much.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-05-21 06:11pm

This does not encourage me to buckle down, get my grad school applications in, and work on my Education masters and teacher's certification...

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-05-21 07:35pm

RedImperator wrote:This does not encourage me to buckle down, get my grad school applications in, and work on my Education masters and teacher's certification...

If your planing to get a job in NJ or a nearby state, the propects isn't that good. Willing to relocate to a different part of the country or another country might be better, if for less buearcracy(sp) elsewhere.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-05-21 07:37pm

jegs2 wrote:Last minute changes in training schedules due to conflicts is certainly nothing exclusive only to the Education system. In the Army, company commanders must resource training a year out, forecasting for ammunition requirements, availablity of land for training, and a multitude of other factors. Training schedules are supposed to be locked in six weeks out, after a multitude of meetings, coordination and garnering of required resources. When all that is said and done, a field-grade officer says, "I think it would be a great idea if..." Then all that planning goes down the tubes, along with dealing with whatever resources had already been allocated -- not to mention the damage done to one's quarterly budget estimates.

In the Military that is to be expected. Be happy is wasn't a daily event, or this is wher I'm proven wrong.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-05-21 07:40pm

Hey, if an Admin isn't fucking something up, what ARE they good for?

I suppose it all comes down to how much you truely love teaching: do you want to teach so much that you're willing to put up with the stupid stuff, or not? ANd what about the school and the students therein? How much loyalty do you feel to that, versus, say, going to another school entirely?

Not exactly my most sympathetic moment, but here's what it boils down to: how dedicated are you?

PS: It would probably help if I knew WHAT you teach...I'm not too much into the personal lives of the people on this board. Unlike so many others, I simply don't know.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-05-21 07:54pm

RogueIce ~ Zaia's a music teacher.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-05-21 07:55pm

DINK verilon DINK! wrote:RogueIce ~ Zaia's a music teacher.

Thanks for the info.

nechronius · Post by **nechronius** » 2003-05-21 08:03pm

I have never worked a job where things don't get gradually worse over Time. You can pretty much expect that in life or just curl up and die. That or you luck out big and get a great job or better still, win the lottery.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-05-21 09:10pm

Zaia, think of the kids. Who'll teach them if you quit?

Of course, I'm not saying that you should stay even if you feel you can't work with the administration. If you really need to leave, then you'd best do it.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-05-22 02:01am

Col. Crackpot wrote:i Don't know how it is where you are, but around here people pay a ridiculous ammount of money for private music instructors ... 25, 30, hell even 50 dollars an hour isn't uncommon...depending on skill level and breadth of experience (the more instuments the better)

Just keep in mind that 30 dollars and hour on your own is like making 18-20 dollars and hour for an employer. When you work for yourself you have to pay ALL taxes and its a pain. Thats why contractors usually charge double the hourly rates.

Of course, I forget if Zaia is even in the US. Sorry, Zaia I dont remember.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-05-22 02:04am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:i Don't know how it is where you are, but around here people pay a ridiculous ammount of money for private music instructors ... 25, 30, hell even 50 dollars an hour isn't uncommon...depending on skill level and breadth of experience (the more instuments the better)
Just keep in mind that 30 dollars and hour on your own is like making 18-20 dollars and hour for an employer. When you work for yourself you have to pay ALL taxes and its a pain. Thats why contractors usually charge double the hourly rates.

Of course, I forget if Zaia is even in the US. Sorry, Zaia I dont remember.

She lives in Maryland...with all their wacky tax laws

Dargos · Post by **Dargos** » 2003-05-22 02:07am

Rubberanvil wrote:In the Military that is to be expected. Be happy is wasn't a daily event, or this is wher I'm proven wrong.

HA!! Show me a unit that has a training schedual that isn't changed in some way on a daily basis and I'll give you a cookie.