Star Trek: Nemesis DVD

PST: discuss Star Trek without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Star Trek: Nemesis DVD

Post by Alyeska »

Well I just got the DVD. I will be pouring through it for screen shots as well as relevent information from both the movie and the deleted scenes. Anyone who didn't want to go to the theater but did want to rent it, now is your chance.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Newtonian Fury
Padawan Learner
Posts: 323
Joined: 2002-09-16 05:24pm

Post by Newtonian Fury »

How much did it cost ya? (You're feeding the evil B&B empire)
The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life where you get to experience all three at the same time. -Unknown
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

Newtonian Fury wrote:How much did it cost ya? (You're feeding the evil B&B empire)
Twenty bucks. Not all that bad all things considered.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Darth Garden Gnome
Official SD.Net Lawn Ornament
Posts: 6029
Joined: 2002-07-08 02:35am
Location: Some where near a mailbox

Post by Darth Garden Gnome »

Not bad considering the AOTC DVD costed me $30.

Anyways, I don't know if there are really any relevent screens that you can examine. Maybe how many phaser/disrupters and torpedoes hit the Scimitar and only caused it to lose 30% shields.

Or exactly how many shots the E-E's redshirts missed from five meters away. :roll:

Maybe an examination of the Federation fleet we never got to see on the other side of the nebula. I noticed at least one of the ships was named "Archer". :)

EDIT: BTW, are there any cool special features?
Leader of the Secret Gnome Revolution
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Not bad considering the AOTC DVD costed me $30.

Anyways, I don't know if there are really any relevent screens that you can examine. Maybe how many phaser/disrupters and torpedoes hit the Scimitar and only caused it to lose 30% shields.

Or exactly how many shots the E-E's redshirts missed from five meters away. :roll:

Maybe an examination of the Federation fleet we never got to see on the other side of the nebula. I noticed at least one of the ships was named "Archer". :)

EDIT: BTW, are there any cool special features?
They have plenty of comentary, deleted scenes, and even a photo gallery (which I am planning on scouring so I can find all the new weapon systems on the Enterprise). Also, the DVD has enough clarity to list every ship from the battlegroup as well as their NCC numbers.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Darth Garden Gnome
Official SD.Net Lawn Ornament
Posts: 6029
Joined: 2002-07-08 02:35am
Location: Some where near a mailbox

Post by Darth Garden Gnome »

New weapon systems? I thought it was just the old phaser strip and fore/aft torpedo tubes.
Leader of the Secret Gnome Revolution
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:New weapon systems? I thought it was just the old phaser strip and fore/aft torpedo tubes.
You should see some of the drawings. One features specific new weapon systems while another just points to locations. I think the Sovereign might have ten torpedo launchers now as well as a second QT launcher.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
neoolong
Dead Sexy 'Shroom
Posts: 13180
Joined: 2002-08-29 10:01pm
Location: California

Post by neoolong »

Who does the commentary? Please don't tell me it's B&B.
Member of the BotM. @( !.! )@
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

neoolong wrote:Who does the commentary? Please don't tell me it's B&B.
Its mostly cast and the director with a few other people as well.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

How interesting... After the Enterprise was refit and back in service Picard got a new command chair with SEATBELTS and Picard said "Well its about time". :D
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Sea Skimmer
Yankee Capitalist Air Pirate
Posts: 37390
Joined: 2002-07-03 11:49pm
Location: Passchendaele City, HAB

Post by Sea Skimmer »

Alyeska wrote:How interesting... After the Enterprise was refit and back in service Picard got a new command chair with SEATBELTS and Picard said "Well its about time". :D
Couple hundred years. I remember reading about that scene before the movie came out.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
User avatar
Lord Poe
Sith Apprentice
Posts: 6988
Joined: 2002-07-14 03:15am
Location: Callyfornia
Contact:

Post by Lord Poe »

Alyeska wrote:How interesting... After the Enterprise was refit and back in service Picard got a new command chair with SEATBELTS and Picard said "Well its about time". :D
Kirk had a "seat belt" of sorts in TMP. The armrest consoles rolled down to secure him into the seat. Plubius may have a quote from the novelization.

BTW, is Worf treated better or WORSE in the deleted scenes?
Image

"Brian, if I parked a supertanker in Central Park, painted it neon orange, and set it on fire, it would be less obvious than your stupidity." --RedImperator
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

There ain't many and he has only one line in just one of them.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Master of Ossus
Darkest Knight
Posts: 18213
Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
Location: California

Post by Master of Ossus »

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Not bad considering the AOTC DVD costed me $30.
And don't even get me started on LotR DVD's...

I'd actually be most interested, once I get my copy, in seeing the UFP vehicle. I want to see if there's any merit to the belief that it actually has shielding, or if the people chasing after them can really be THAT bad at shooting things.
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul

Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner

"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000

"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
User avatar
Master of Ossus
Darkest Knight
Posts: 18213
Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
Location: California

Post by Master of Ossus »

Alyeska wrote: They have plenty of comentary, deleted scenes, and even a photo gallery (which I am planning on scouring so I can find all the new weapon systems on the Enterprise). Also, the DVD has enough clarity to list every ship from the battlegroup as well as their NCC numbers.
How much of the deleted footage did they restore? They cut a HUGE amount of material from the theatrical release, which ones did they decide to show us for the DVD?
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul

Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner

"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000

"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

Master of Ossus wrote:
Alyeska wrote: They have plenty of comentary, deleted scenes, and even a photo gallery (which I am planning on scouring so I can find all the new weapon systems on the Enterprise). Also, the DVD has enough clarity to list every ship from the battlegroup as well as their NCC numbers.
How much of the deleted footage did they restore? They cut a HUGE amount of material from the theatrical release, which ones did they decide to show us for the DVD?
Well none of the deleted scenes were added to the movie itself. You have to access them seperately. Looking at all the deleted scenes, they brought in maybe 15 minutes worth, and some of the scenes don't even have special effects (you see the green screen windows). The quality on all of them is rather pathetic.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Post by Spanky The Dolphin »

Here's some info on the Nemesis DVD from DVDFile:
http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/ ... mesis.html

Deleted scenes are only about 20 minutes out of ~45.
Image
I believe in a sign of Zeta.

[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]

"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"
User avatar
Master of Ossus
Darkest Knight
Posts: 18213
Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
Location: California

Post by Master of Ossus »

Alyeska wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
Alyeska wrote: They have plenty of comentary, deleted scenes, and even a photo gallery (which I am planning on scouring so I can find all the new weapon systems on the Enterprise). Also, the DVD has enough clarity to list every ship from the battlegroup as well as their NCC numbers.
How much of the deleted footage did they restore? They cut a HUGE amount of material from the theatrical release, which ones did they decide to show us for the DVD?
Well none of the deleted scenes were added to the movie itself. You have to access them seperately. Looking at all the deleted scenes, they brought in maybe 15 minutes worth, and some of the scenes don't even have special effects (you see the green screen windows). The quality on all of them is rather pathetic.
That's too bad. I was kind of looking forward to them, and hoping they would be like the TPM re-additions to the film.

Do any of them have anything of substance happen, in them? Do they flesh out the characters or the plot (were they cut for time, or because they weren't advancing anything)?
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul

Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner

"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000

"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
User avatar
Alyeska
Federation Ambassador
Posts: 17496
Joined: 2002-08-11 07:28pm
Location: Montana, USA

Post by Alyeska »

Master of Ossus wrote:That's too bad. I was kind of looking forward to them, and hoping they would be like the TPM re-additions to the film.

Do any of them have anything of substance happen, in them? Do they flesh out the characters or the plot (were they cut for time, or because they weren't advancing anything)?
That is what the scenes are all about. One is a scene with Picard meeting his new first officer (replacement for Data). Another is Data and Picard drinking whine and discussing things (haven't watched it really). Another is Picard showing up and sickbay and watching as the medical staff is being handed weapons and he talks with Beverly. Yet another is Deana in the turboshaft as she is attacked mentaly.
"If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither is on your side, pound on the table."

"The captain claimed our people violated a 4,000 year old treaty forbidding us to develop hyperspace technology. Extermination of our planet was the consequence. The subject did not survive interrogation."
User avatar
Laird
Friendly Neighbourhood Asshole
Posts: 1707
Joined: 2002-09-16 04:33am
Location: Canada

Post by Laird »

I picked it up for 24 bucks canadian and think it was well worth an hours pay.

So meh...
"LairdCorp, where total dominion is our number one goal!"-LairdCorp's Motto
Image
User avatar
Dark Primus
Jedi Master
Posts: 1279
Joined: 2002-07-04 02:48am

Post by Dark Primus »

It doesn't appear it has all the footage they removed from it, to bad. I wont buy it then.
EAT SHIT AND DIE! - Because I say so

"Me Grimlock Badass" -Grimlock
User avatar
Sidious
Padawan Learner
Posts: 326
Joined: 2002-09-12 11:02pm
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Post by Sidious »

Ill be picking it up this weekend. I enjoyed the movie in the theatre *shrug*
User avatar
neoolong
Dead Sexy 'Shroom
Posts: 13180
Joined: 2002-08-29 10:01pm
Location: California

Post by neoolong »

You think in a couple years they will release a collector's edition with all the stuff back in?
Member of the BotM. @( !.! )@
Towlie
Redshirt
Posts: 45
Joined: 2003-05-03 04:54pm

Post by Towlie »

Man, check out some of the DVD reviews on Amazon:

*****
A Fitting Send-Off For the TNG Crew, May 22, 2003
Reviewer: A viewer
This movie is a great sendoff to the crew that entertained Trek fans for so long. It's action packed and full of emotion. Pick this up if you are a fan of the TNG bunch. --This text refers to the DVD edition.

*****
The Best Star Trek TNG, May 22, 2003
Reviewer: A viewer from Oceanside, CA United States
This was the best TNG film made. Though this film is mostly dark as the crew of the enterprise ends its long run it still is the best Star Trek film to date. The vilian is this story is unique with a surpeising twist to him. Great acting, great writing, and awesome speical fxs are what action movies need, Nemesis has all 3. --This text refers to the DVD edition.

*****
Send in the clone...., May 16, 2003
Reviewer: wtdk (see more about me) from Fairfield, CA United States
Nemesis is a good, old fashion science fiction film. There's no pandering to the audience. The theme of nature vs. nurture and mortality that crop up throughout the film have been done dozens of times before, but screenwriter John Logan (The Time Machine) does a great job of adding a fresh coat of paint.

The Federation faces a threat from the Romulan Empire and Picard inadvertantly contributes to that threat. With a stunning opening sequence set in the Romulan Senate and a touching conclusion set aboard the severely damaged Enterprise, Nemesis brings the characters and their adventures full circle.

Patrick Stewart is his usual commanding self but the film really belongs to Brent Spiner as Data. The characters from this series have faced death of close shipmates before (Tasha Yar at the end of season one of Next Gen), but the surprise death of such a central character to the series adds gravity to this fine film.

Be prepared for a film much darker in tone than previous Trek films. Director Stuart Baird adds small doses of levity to a film that deals with a number of strong action sequences and painful departures. Ultimately, Nemesis is about family, the challenge of losing a loved one and the difficulty of change. Oh, did I mention it's also a darn fine action film as well? Probably not but I personally found Nemesis to be one of the best Next Gen Trek films from a dramatic point of view. Yes, it breaks up a band of performers a bit prematurely and many of the characters do move on, but that's what makes drama fun. --This text refers to the DVD edition.

---

Good god, this goes on. [cries]
User avatar
Equinox2003
Jedi Knight
Posts: 832
Joined: 2003-03-16 08:08pm

Post by Equinox2003 »

I think it was a good buy for $20. An enjoyable movie, although not
a remarkable amount of bonus stuff.
Director commentary was acceptable, I think they could have had
more deleted scenes.
Surprised to find no theatrical trailers.
Can anybody shed some light on the CD-ROM that came with it? I can't
get mine to work....
Post Reply