Imperial Army calculations

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-05-22 02:05pm

Ok, I've done some calcs here on how big the Imperial army might be.

The Empire's population is 100 quadrillion(1e17), with this I can approximate the percentage of their population that is in millitary service, for the US, 0,0015% of the population is in the millitary.

Using that as a yard-stick, the Imperial millitary consists of 150 trillion men, now according to WEG info on stormtroopers, about 1% of the Imperial Army is recruited into the Stormtrooper core, that would give us 1.5 trillion stormies.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-05-22 02:06pm

Ofcourse, I am aware that I used the whole of the millitary, not just the Army branch to calculate how many stormtroopers they might have.

I will do some estimates later on with regards to how many men might be in the Navy.

EDIT:
Estimates done.

The Imperial Navy, consists of 10-22 million vessels by my own calcs, an ISD has around 37.000 men, but lets use rough figure of 10.000 men per ship instead, which I think is generous when the majority of ships are probably smaller 200-600m vessels with little crew required.

At 10 million vessels the Imperial Navy takes up 100 billion men.
At 22 million vessels the Imperial Navy takes up 220 billion men.

The navy clearly requires little in terms of human resources, it is only 0.00146% of avialable manpower at most.

Given the numbers involved here it is almost inconsequential to even take this into account when estimate the manpower of the Army and Storm Trooper corps.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-05-22 05:40pm

BTW, there are 17,000 stormies on an ISD. (Star Wars, Cross Sections)

So, at the height of the Empire, there were 2.5 million ISDs in service. That comes to at least 42500000 SD side stormies alone.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-05-22 05:56pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:BTW, there are 17,000 stormies on an ISD. (Star Wars, Cross Sections)

So, at the height of the Empire, there were 2.5 million ISDs in service. That comes to at least 42500000 SD side stormies alone.

No, it was 25.000

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-22 06:02pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
At 10 million vessels the Imperial Navy takes up 100 billion men.
At 22 million vessels the Imperial Navy takes up 220 billion men.

The navy clearly requires little in terms of human resources, it is only 0.00146% of avialable manpower at most.

This totally ignores all the billions, more likely trillions of men that the Empire would need to man the vast support infrastructure of its navy. Planeside bases, station and surface based TIE units, battlestations, orbital supply stations, the naval yards every sector at least one of, they all need a damn lot of men.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-22 06:04pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:BTW, there are 17,000 stormies on an ISD. (Star Wars, Cross Sections)

So, at the height of the Empire, there were 2.5 million ISDs in service. That comes to at least 42500000 SD side stormies alone.

No ICS says there are 9700 Stormtroopers on each ISD. The max number of ISDs ever in service was 25,000, this is clearly stated in Spector of the Past.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-05-22 06:05pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:This totally ignores all the trillions of men that the Empire would need to man the vast support infrastructure of its navy. Ground installations, planeside TIE units, battlestations, orbital supply stations, the naval yards every sector at least one. They all need a damn lot of men.

True, that is indeed an unknown quantity

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-23 01:12am

Sea Skimmer wrote:No ICS says there are 9700 Stormtroopers on each ISD. The max number of ISDs ever in service was 25,000, this is clearly stated in Spector of the Past.

Actually WEG creates a lower ISD limit of about 50,000 ISDs (2,000< or = sector groups, minimum 24 ISDs per Sector Group minus roaming fleet commands and Oversectors, etc..

This would back-up Duchess' assertion that the Navy was not the accumulative total of Imperial forces.

Furthermore, Pelleaon is wrong about the scale of the Empire anyway--there are 50 million, not 1 million Imperial worlds at the height.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-23 02:15am

Illuminatus Primus wrote: Actually WEG creates a lower ISD limit of about 50,000 ISDs (2,000< or = sector groups, minimum 24 ISDs per Sector Group minus roaming fleet commands and Oversectors, etc..

I'll take the novel quote over WEG

Furthermore, Pelleaon is wrong about the scale of the Empire anyway--there are 50 million, not 1 million Imperial worlds at the height.

No they're where 1 million major worlds and 50 million minor colonies and dependences.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-23 02:21am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote: Actually WEG creates a lower ISD limit of about 50,000 ISDs (2,000< or = sector groups, minimum 24 ISDs per Sector Group minus roaming fleet commands and Oversectors, etc..
I'll take the novel quote over WEG

Prove there is something wrong with the WEG quote. Especially given known Zahn minimalism, which is historically far worse than WEG scale errors (other such errors are irrelevent to this particular quote).

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Furthermore, Pelleaon is wrong about the scale of the Empire anyway--there are 50 million, not 1 million Imperial worlds at the height.
No they're where 1 million major worlds and 50 million minor colonies and dependences.

I see. Excuses for in-novel mistakes from an author with historically far more serious than WEG scale mistakes from the very same cited quote but outright dismissal of everything WEG without any proof there's anything wrong with the WEG quote cited. How rational.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-05-23 04:30am

On the upside if they can't equip all those people you could just drop them out of ship as a real cheap bombardment...