[STGOD] Primary Story Thread

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 07:39pm

Beowulf wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:
We fear that they will end up being tried in a kangaroo court. Not long ago, floater agression started a crazy war, and we fear they may decide to continue their sad vendetta.
Floater aggression? We were not aware that the nuclear weapons that devestated Ionia and launched from Kokand territory were actually Floater devices.
Let's not forget the NRE's role, placing spy satelites around Kokand space, and then complaining when they were merely jammed. And yes, floater agression. If it weren't for their xenophobic claims, it's unlikely that the galaxy would have reached the state of tensions that caused the Kokand to place nuclear deterrant devices in their territory.

Well, the Kokannds where xenophobic. They also fired on a ship that had powered down weapons.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-23 07:41pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote: Floater aggression? We were not aware that the nuclear weapons that devestated Ionia and launched from Kokand territory were actually Floater devices.
Let's not forget the NRE's role, placing spy satelites around Kokand space, and then complaining when they were merely jammed. And yes, floater agression. If it weren't for their xenophobic claims, it's unlikely that the galaxy would have reached the state of tensions that caused the Kokand to place nuclear deterrant devices in their territory.
Well, the Kokannds where xenophobic. They also fired on a ship that had powered down weapons.

The KSE ambassador quickly skimmed over the series of messages

"Oh dear god, don't they realize they're having the same damnd argument that started the war?"

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 07:47pm

We are willing to drop our argument. Our primary goal now is to ensure that the pirates never harm another life. If it becomes necessary to hand the pirates over to possibly unfair courts, then we will do so. We will still do everything in our power to end their ability to cause harm.

Our Task Force has already begun operations. We would request a dozen or so Escort sized vessels and at least one capital ship from our allies in Durandel's Empire to assist in our hunting, we can provide basing off of our Hadriel Military Cluster for the course of the search.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-23 07:47pm

We dispute your claims that the Kokand were xenophobic. Paranoid, certainly. Xenophobic, we say not. Let's not forget that the Floaters had brought an INVASION fleet into Kokand space. And note that the ship with power down weaponry had repeatedly provoked the Kokand theatre commander, and did not stand down until after fired upon.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 07:47pm

Let's try to get off this subject. another war would be...unfortunate.

There is no reason that the floaters should not be permitted to prosecute those that attack their shipping lanes. Anyone who they attack should be able to prosecute them according to their laws. It is that simple. They violate our national sovereignty. You expect us to stand down and let them? The NRE didnt kill anyone with their sattelites...these pirates destroy convoys, valuable equipment, and thousands of people...including our men at arms. We should be permitted to prosecute them, and will not allow you to violate our right to do so.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 07:50pm

Thirdfain wrote:We are willing to drop our argument. Our primary goal now is to ensure that the pirates never harm another life. If it becomes necessary to hand the pirates over to possibly unfair courts, then we will do so. We will still do everything in our power to end their ability to cause harm.

Our Task Force has already begun operations. We would request a dozen or so Escort sized vessels and at least one capital ship from our allies in Durandel's Empire to assist in our hunting, we can provide basing off of our Hadriel Military Cluster for the course of the search.

And you shall have them. Our ships work best in groups, so we will give you 4 battlegroups(40 ships) of Sinful Class Frigates from our offensive fleets.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 07:50pm

We dispute your claims that the Kokand were xenophobic. Paranoid, certainly. Xenophobic, we say not. Let's not forget that the Floaters had brought an INVASION fleet into Kokand space. And note that the ship with power down weaponry had repeatedly provoked the Kokand theatre commander, and did not stand down until after fired upon.

An INVASION fleet? There was not a single OAV, Troop Transport, or Fleet Tender present! Our fleet had NO ABILITY to invade anything! Our fleet was a local patrol group, nothing more, dispatched to protect the hundred-odd Floater civilians which Kokand vessels had ordered us to strand!

Your revisionist history brings tears to my eyes.

I will reiterate our stance: We will do what is necessary to remove the pirates from the playing field. If that means we must turn them over to the Asgard after we have destroyed their vessels, then so be it.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-23 07:52pm

All we insist on is that if these rogue Kokand forces are captured, that they be tried in Asgard courts. You are well within your rights to defend yourselves against them, but they remain members of the Asgard Armed Forces, and as such, must be tried in Asgard military courts.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-23 07:53pm

Alright, I suggest this treaty. If anyone tries to start a war because of statements said over the events leading up to the destruction of The Black Alice all other nations will attack the nation that is attempting to start the war.

Fair enough?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 07:54pm

Though should they be captured by DE vessells, they will be tried in our courts. THEN be extradited to the Asgard, their sentence put on hold until the Asgards prosecute them. We expect the longest sentence to be carried out however. If sentencee them to life in prison, and the Asgard tsentence them to five standard years...they will get the higher sentence. Unless the Asgard agree to these terms, they will not be sent to Asgard space, the Asgard will have to hold the trial in nternational space.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 07:55pm

Alright, I suggest this treaty. If anyone tries to start a war because of statements said over the events leading up to the destruction of The Black Alice all other nations will attack the nation that is attempting to start the war.

Fair enough?

We would sign such a treaty. We have had enough of the NBA's insults, and such a treaty would end those insults without bloodshed.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-23 07:55pm

Straha wrote:Alright, I suggest this treaty. If anyone tries to start a war because of statements said over the events leading up to the destruction of The Black Alice all other nations will attack the nation that is attempting to start the war.

Fair enough?

The OU Prime Minister has this to say:

"Whoever thought this up is fucking insane."

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-23 07:56pm

Beowulf wrote:All we insist on is that if these rogue Kokand forces are captured, that they be tried in Asgard courts. You are well within your rights to defend yourselves against them, but they remain members of the Asgard Armed Forces, and as such, must be tried in Asgard military courts.

And they will be tried in Asgard military courts...after our civilian courts prosecute them.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 07:56pm

The OU Prime Minister has this to say:

"Whoever thought this up is fucking insane."

We are willing to put those events behind us. Are you?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 07:58pm

Oh, and we reiterate our stance for total support of our brothers in Durandel's Empire. Any attack against them, is an attack against us. Everry one of their people killed, we treat as one of our own killed.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-05-23 07:58pm

Thirdfain wrote:
The OU Prime Minister has this to say:

"Whoever thought this up is fucking insane."
We are willing to put those events behind us. Are you?

Yes, however we still think that that proposed treaty is insane.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-23 08:00pm

Beowulf wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:
The OU Prime Minister has this to say:

"Whoever thought this up is fucking insane."
We are willing to put those events behind us. Are you?
Yes, however we still think that that proposed treaty is insane.

I think most nations consider the treaty "fucking insane".

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 08:02pm

Some sort of closure must be reached for the "Black Alice" Massacre. It is obvious that the Four-Hour war was not enough for some people. A treaty to put the issue to rest may be the best idea. It certainly beats another full-on war.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-23 08:10pm

Beowulf wrote:
Straha wrote:Alright, I suggest this treaty. If anyone tries to start a war because of statements said over the events leading up to the destruction of The Black Alice all other nations will attack the nation that is attempting to start the war.

Fair enough?
The OU Prime Minister has this to say:

"Whoever thought this up is fucking insane."

yes some of James Ochebe's ideas are taken that way, but this would work, and it would let us lance the poisonius boil that it has become without fear of retribution.

OOC: I am the lord of spam, did you expect something better?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-23 08:12pm

Beowulf wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:
We fear that they will end up being tried in a kangaroo court. Not long ago, floater agression started a crazy war, and we fear they may decide to continue their sad vendetta.
Floater aggression? We were not aware that the nuclear weapons that devestated Ionia and launched from Kokand territory were actually Floater devices.
Let's not forget the NRE's role, placing spy satelites around Kokand space, and then complaining when they were merely jammed. And yes, floater agression. If it weren't for their xenophobic claims, it's unlikely that the galaxy would have reached the state of tensions that caused the Kokand to place nuclear deterrant devices in their territory.

Need I remind you that the Nuclear Missles were placed there BEFORE the science sattelites were even placed?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-23 08:25pm

The ratty professor was rather happy.

"You have brought supplies."

Romulus smiled. He had come alone, as was necessary, the spatial coordinents of this place being known only to himself.

"I managed to wring a small gift out of an affluent merchant. I hope it will be enough."

The ratty man was delighted as he gazed over the crates that lined the light freighter Romulus had piloted. Direct money transactions were impossible, of course, so the emperor had brought funding in the form of the supplies they had needed.

"Andronicus, I must know. How close are you to completing the grapple?"

Professor Andronicus- for that was the name he had assumed upon his arrival at this station- had waited for this moment for eight years. The grapple was his pride and joy; his magnus opum.

"Project Corvas is nearly completed, great Caesar. Some more adjustments are necessary, but I think it will soon be ready for mass-production. Of course, there are some...limitations."

"Such as?"

"It has no destructive capability whatsoever, aside from its tendency to violently destroy the operating platform."

"Platforms can be rebuilt. Does it perform its intended function?"

"Flawlessly. Why do you ask now? Is war brewing?"

"No; it has already passed us by. There is another, far lesser threat, but I feel it would make for an adequate demonstration of the divine might of Holy Rome."

"An excellant idea, great Caesar. You will have your grapple."

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2003-05-23 09:26pm

Menias-Dorian Hegemony's Foriegn Officre
John J. Lancer

My Dear Comrade representative of the United Planets I have a good news to inform you of. More of the allied solar systems have agreed to become part of the Hegemony! While the third is in debate about and it appears the three nations within that system will side with us. If you would like full congressial transcrips the nation can provide them. Expect soon new stories aswell. I did this to inform you ahead of time.

Signed
LANCER

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-23 09:32pm

ATTN: Mensas-Dorian Hegemony Diplomatic Office
FROM: UFR Office of Diplomacy and War
SUBJ: Alliance
-Secure diplomatic shuttle, w/ warship escort-

A number of powers, including our mutual allies and friends in the New Roman Empire, are signing onto an alliance, which might be called the Ionian Coast Pact, to provide a counterbalancing force to the mighty New Beijing Alliance. We of the United Floater Republics would like to invite the Hegemony to join. Pact members will defend each other, and your systems will be linked to other Pact systems by a military Hyperspace network, which will allow cheap transit between systems. Joint naval exercises will take place between Alliance members.

Together, we will be a force to be reckoned with.

Will you join?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-05-23 09:56pm

TO: Pan-Slavic Rebuplic, Floater Republic, the New Roman Empire, Mensas-Dorien Hegemony, The Krytos Star Empire, and Durandal's Empire.
Subj: Ordino Accords

This is a final reminder to all the invited nations that the discussions over the Mutual Defense Pact, refered to as the Ordino Accords, are jsut three days away. An Itinerary has been laid out, and food from every culture has been prepared. It is requested that you bring your top military staff as well, because after the signing on the third day we will be discussing tactics,mutual co-operation, and the formation/command of J-comm.

Yours the Regent of Monacora

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2003-05-23 10:01pm

ATTENTION: UFR Office of Diplomacy and War
FROM: Menias-Dorian Foriegn Office
SUBJECT: Reply

We graciously accept. What mst I bring foward to this alliance? I can field two motorised divisions quickly to the Pact as an Expeditionary Force and send out the Menais-Dorian Expeditionary Force immediately incase of war.