TNG's "The High Ground"

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-05-23 10:17pm

Anyone find this episode quite good(except for the kid putting down his gun part, he actually would have just shot them). The episode almost seems like they are trying to warn us about our lacking of understanding. Or maybe I'm just wrapped up in my own little world. Any thoughts?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-05-23 10:20pm

Is this the terrorist episode?

I love the scene where Crusher gets kidnapped. Worf, Data and the security guards just wait for half a minute while the guy grabs her.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-05-23 10:29pm

yeah, that's the one, also worf and Riker decide to duke it out with the terrorists instead of shooting them.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2003-05-23 10:40pm

Yeah, and any real Specops team would have burned said kid down in a nanosecond; not the best and brightest moment for Fed security anywhere in this one.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2003-05-24 11:20am

Yes the terrorist theme was quite good, I liked the line about how strength is useless against terrorists. Although Fed. security is... well... Um, did I actually call it 'security'? (I mean come on, the bridge boarding scene was painful to watch, Data took about 30 seconds to get out of his chair!)

Ronaldo · Post by **Ronaldo** » 2003-05-26 01:22pm

I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-05-26 01:26pm

Ronaldo wrote:I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

I'd say it's an allegory for all terrorism. There was nothing in the episode that could be directly tied to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict apart from the generic concept of terrorism (no religious issues, no "holy city" dispute, no occupied territories where human rights are suspended, no forcibly inserted settlements in said territories, no disputes over water, no outside sources pouring in money and weapons).

The incident in this episode was just generic territorial (and possibly ethnic) separatism as far as I can tell.

Ronaldo · Post by **Ronaldo** » 2003-05-26 03:11pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Ronaldo wrote:I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
I'd say it's an allegory for all terrorism. There was nothing in the episode that could be directly tied to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict apart from the generic concept of terrorism (no religious issues, no "holy city" dispute, no occupied territories where human rights are suspended, no forcibly inserted settlements in said territories, no disputes over water, no outside sources pouring in money and weapons).

The incident in this episode was just generic territorial (and possibly ethnic) separatism as far as I can tell.

It's been awhile since I have since the episode, so you could be right on the general nature of the terrorism it presents.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-05-26 03:29pm

Still I say it was a pretty good episode, even though i had its failings.

Joe Momma · Post by **Joe Momma** » 2003-05-26 04:14pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Ronaldo wrote:I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
I'd say it's an allegory for all terrorism. There was nothing in the episode that could be directly tied to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict apart from the generic concept of terrorism...

I've seen reviews comparing that episode to various other conflicts such as Ireland's, which reinforces the idea that it's a generic allegory, whether the writers intended it to be or not.

-- Joe Momma