Recreational Drugs..

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-23 10:33pm

Would you use a recreational drug that was safe and relatively unaddictive (ie akin to caffeine, not cocaine) and why?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-05-23 10:39pm

nope. I like having a clear head.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-23 10:41pm

No. Drugs are bad, mmmkay?

Seriously, I wouldn't, because I'm something to a teetotaler (have never had a drink, have never smoked, have never used any drug). I also fear that I might do something I wouldn't normally approve of while under the influence of such a drug.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-05-23 10:43pm

Durran Korr wrote:Seriously, I wouldn't, because I'm something to a teetotaler (have never had a drink, have never smoked, have never used any drug). I also fear that I might do something I wouldn't normally approve of while under the influence of such a drug.

Indeed. Why do you want to screw up your mind and/or body, anyway? This can go for heavy smokers/drinkers too. I don't get it myself...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-23 10:49pm

i said SAFE, as in not damaging. like, for instance, caffeine doesnt mess with your mind (except maybe make you hypertalkative).

Hell, I'd go so far as to say nootropics dont do damage but the exact opposite in that they BENEFIT you with no known side effects (Piracetam/Nootropil, for instance, can be taking in toses over 0.7 KILOGRAMS without noticeable sideeffects at all).

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-05-23 10:51pm

kojikun wrote:i said SAFE, as in not damaging. like, for instance, caffeine doesnt mess with your mind (except maybe make you hypertalkative).

Hell, I'd go so far as to say nootropics dont do damage but the exact opposite in that they BENEFIT you with no known side effects (Piracetam/Nootropil, for instance, can be taking in toses over 0.7 KILOGRAMS without noticeable sideeffects at all).

Then what the Hell do they do? Make your mind go goofy?

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-05-23 11:01pm

Drugs are fun, if I could take a drug that makes my 10 second orgasm feel like an hour long orgasm I'd take it in an instand provided it's non-addictive and has no harmful side effects. If there was a drug that lets me hear deeply into music and feel and experience all the interplay of layers and instruments like I was a part of it I'd take it.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-05-23 11:07pm

I say no you don`t need drugs to have fun.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-23 11:08pm

Rogue, Piracetam (the original nootrope) makes your memory and learning abilities REALLY good, and your creativity is boosted enormously. Other possible rec drugs like adrafinil or modafinil provide the wakefulness and attentiveness of caffeine without the typical stimulant side effects.

future microcapsule usage to deliver drugs to specific receptor sites in a specific organ will make direct to-brain transmission of neurotransmitters so that if you want to be happy, instead of taking a drug to make you happy, you just dope your brain up with serotonin, so you dont waste your reserves. or for better motor control you'd directly transport dopamine.

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-05-23 11:56pm

Problem with all this is that long-term use will result in psychological addiction. More serotonin? Take a good deal more than your natural intake and find out what happens when you're cut off from it. Your natural level will be inadequate, and you'll feel depressed for no good reason.

Orgasm drug? That'll be addictive the same way porn is.

As a "non-addictive" drug, I fine caffine to be very good. I take it in extreme moderation so its effects are not dulled in my body.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-24 12:02am

But UV, with these drugs the responsibility is now in the hands of the user to not let themsevles become so addicted. Its not like meth where one tweak and youre hooked, you ahve to abuse for a good amount of time.

These drugs would be just like caffeine in their ability to addict (atleast, some would be) and their regulation should be similar. The question is more of moral issues, however.

Would YOU, assuming the drugs are as safe as or more safe then caffeine or tylenol, consume a recreational/smart drug, and why would you do this?

I voted yes, I'm actually looking for Piracetam resources as I type this (not simultaneously, i've only so much ability). However I'm not about to eat a pound of the shit without making damn sure its safe. I too dislike the possibility of brain damage, but then, consuming too much or too little water can result in brain damage just the same, and no drug will cause brain damage beneath a certain dose, especially not nootropics.

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-05-24 12:07am

Yep. It's totally up to the user. That's why I have no sympathy whatsoever to the social-scum weaklings littering the inner cities with needles stuck in their arms begging for spare change. Let the crackwhores die, I say.

Don't know if I'd take it if there were no adverse effects. I'm a pretty open guy drug-wise, so why not? I like to know there's a limit to how much of something I can take during a set time period...Just so I can feel pain if I'm an addict.

I think I could go for some reading comprehension drugs. For some reason I have trouble reading alot these days. Fuck back in school I used to be a borderline speedreader, now I'm lucky if I can read a whole page in under two minutes.

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-05-24 12:09am

Hmm...I also used to take Prozac back in school...Perhaps that boosted my attention skills...

I've been "diagnosed" with ADHD even though I feel it's nothing more than a big scam so that drug companies can give zombie pills to kids who fidget too much. I think I've got something like it...But it's not real bad or anything.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-24 12:13am

I'll stick with my endorphins.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-24 12:47am

but what about endorphines on command?

and for the record, Piracetam has no known lethal dose (LD50) below 700g, while the typical dose is ~500mg, so you get a bit of a perspective on how much you take versus the known max amounts.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-05-24 04:18am

Would and have. Were the rest of you nerds raised by Nancy Reagan, or what?

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-05-24 04:25am

aerius wrote:Drugs are fun, if I could take a drug that makes my 10 second orgasm feel like an hour long orgasm I'd take it in an instand provided it's non-addictive and has no harmful side effects. If there was a drug that lets me hear deeply into music and feel and experience all the interplay of layers and instruments like I was a part of it I'd take it.

Basically Delta-9 Tetrahydracanabinol

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2003-05-24 01:30pm

Sr.mal wrote:
aerius wrote:Drugs are fun, if I could take a drug that makes my 10 second orgasm feel like an hour long orgasm I'd take it in an instand provided it's non-addictive and has no harmful side effects. If there was a drug that lets me hear deeply into music and feel and experience all the interplay of layers and instruments like I was a part of it I'd take it.
Basically Delta-9 Tetrahydracanabinol

Huh? I thought pot made sex more difficult. Unless you mean only the second.

Ancalagon · Post by **Ancalagon** » 2003-05-24 02:04pm

aerius wrote:Drugs are fun, if I could take a drug that makes my 10 second orgasm feel like an hour long orgasm I'd take it in an instand provided it's non-addictive and has no harmful side effects. If there was a drug that lets me hear deeply into music and feel and experience all the interplay of layers and instruments like I was a part of it I'd take it.

Have you tried MDMA?

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-05-24 02:07pm

PrinceofLowLight wrote:
Sr.mal wrote:
aerius wrote:Drugs are fun, if I could take a drug that makes my 10 second orgasm feel like an hour long orgasm I'd take it in an instand provided it's non-addictive and has no harmful side effects. If there was a drug that lets me hear deeply into music and feel and experience all the interplay of layers and instruments like I was a part of it I'd take it.
Basically Delta-9 Tetrahydracanabinol
Huh? I thought pot made sex more difficult. Unless you mean only the second.

No, you are confusing that with Alcohol. What it does is increase nerve signals. Basically it allows a woman to have an orgasm pretty much one right after another with only about 10 seconds in between.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-24 02:08pm

MDMA has MANY side effects. for instance, post-tweak depression, high blood pressure, fast pulse, excessive emotions, hyperactivity, dehydration, over exertion, hyponatremia (from drinking too much water) etc.

then theres the possible neurotoxicity from dopamine poisoning which CA be prevented but only with second drugs (SSRIs) taken within the first 6 hours of consumption.

MDMA is NOT a smart drug. Plain and simple.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-05-24 02:09pm

I'm almost sure this violates the board drug threads rules.

Thread closed on that account. If some other mod thinks otherwise, let me know.

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