The man we know as 'Jesus Christ'

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-09-09 02:42am

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ ... ndex.shtml

Pretty much summing up the lamentable quality of the evidence in the Bible for the Resurrection.

Also, anyone who's looked into the matter on even the most basic level would know that

- there are no other contemporary sources which serve to back up the New Testament, AT ALL. Those sources that ARE contemporary with the New Testament make:

a: no mention of Jesus or the events of the New Testament
b: no mention of events that would DEFINITELY be recorded in many ways had they happened:

i- Herod's slaughter
ii- a few of the 'miracles'

- the secondary sources for the existence of Jesus are laughable. The one most frequently brought up- Josephus, is universally recognized as a later Christian insertion (lying for the Lord is OK).

Amazing how gullible humans are isn't it?

Jesus Christ · Post by **Jesus Christ** » 2002-09-09 04:39am

Thou art a lier! thou will burn for this heresy! to hell with thee! and when you are there can you pick me up from the duty free, a bottle of 15 year old single malt? if its not too out of your way, wouldnt want to inconvieniance you or anytrhing.... oh and a nice bottle of Port perchance?

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-09-09 06:06am

LOL

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-09 07:57am

I belive in the Lord
I also belive the Lord is quite drunk ATM

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-09 09:41am

Mr Bean wrote:I belive in the Lord

Of course you do. I am your Dark Lord, and my existence is indisputable.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-09-09 10:33am

Darth Wong wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:I belive in the Lord
Of course you do. I am your Dark Lord, and my existence is indisputable.

You know if we really put our minds to it. . .

Do you reckon we could come up with evidence demonstrating that our model and inspiration is actually the Second Coming?

I mean, going by fundie standards of proof of course. . .

Prove to me that Mike isn't God incarnate!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-09-09 12:15pm

Nick wrote:Prove to me that Mike isn't God incarnate!

Prove to me that Graham Kennedy isn't Satan incarnate!

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2002-09-09 12:15pm

All hail Wong, the Dark Lord of the World Wide Wasteland.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2002-09-09 02:34pm

ROFL!

And the Christians have the audacity to call US blind.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2002-09-09 02:35pm

NUTS, multiple post.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2002-09-09 02:35pm

NUTS, multiple post.... again!

Evil Jerk · Post by **Evil Jerk** » 2002-09-09 03:02pm

*sees oppertunity to cash in*

The Dark Lord promises you eternal happiness on the Holy Stardestroyer, but you must pay me large sums of money every week and be horrible to anybody who doesn't think like you or you'll suffer.

*holds out a large bag with a $ sign on it*

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-09 03:16pm

*Force chokes EJ

Well not all the religion is without merit

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-09 03:29pm

Loves force choke

"I love being an undead machine...."

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-09-09 09:09pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:I belive in the Lord
Of course you do. I am your Dark Lord, and my existence is indisputable.

Are you drunk like Mr. Bean said on the second line?

Well, this thread went off topic in a mere three posts, which has to be a new record

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2002-09-09 09:25pm

Around here, maybe. In other forum's I've seen threads hijacked in one reply.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-09-09 10:17pm

I've already got dibs on being the fundamendalist nutter who blows up all who disagree with our point of view.

The Jihad is 2 and a half years old in just over a month. YAY!

Jesus Christ · Post by **Jesus Christ** » 2002-09-09 10:38pm

Mr Bean wrote:I belive in the Lord
I also belive the Lord is quite drunk ATM

Thy Lord is vary rarly drunk {belive me, when you can turn water into booze, its a wonder I am not permanatly drunk} and not pass up on the oppertunity for good booze at duty free prices. Thy Lord likes a little temptation now and then...

Jesus Christ · Post by **Jesus Christ** » 2002-09-09 10:42pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:ROFL!

And the Christians have the audacity to call US blind.

They wouldnt call you blind if you just left it alone for half a day..

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-09-09 11:11pm

*holds hands toward Mike screams to the masses*BEHOLD THE WONG GOD!

Post by **Steve** » 2002-09-11 09:02pm

If I put my mind to it, I could probably come up with quite the punchline for this thread.

But as it stands, Mike: knock it off, you're stealing my potential followers.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-11 09:05pm

So your looking for some-what intellgent people to join your pursonal Cult

Steve idiots are a dime a dozen, but a smart cult memeber is rarer than gold

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-09-11 10:48pm

Actually, while I'm unsure about the resurection, there are many independent sources to say Jesus existed. (Well many is a subjective word, lets say their exist a large amount considering the time frame, and the fact that for a good while Jesus remained, obscure and only preached for a few years.)
For a start we have Roman official accounts of a preacher/religious leader in the areas mentioned in the New testament, who meets Jesus discription. We have the (Is it Dead Sea Scrolls) Written by an order of Jewish 'Monks' (It's thought that John The Babtist was a member of this group)
and more, but I'm no expert on the matter... (This was only something we touched on in my A-Level Theology course, and not actually on the syliabus, it was one of the areas we distracted our teacher's towards rather than actually do the work, we where very good at this. My friend and I once twisted one of the argument's for the existence of God, to prove that Middle Earth Elves Must exist... ah them where the days.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-09-11 10:51pm

Oh I almost forgot, or am not sure how important it is, but using events discriped in the New Testament, arciolgists where able to discover many lost areas of historical interest... (It also led to a few of the stories being put in a new light, such as many of the times Jesus preached against the Pharisees, he was doing it under their noses in the seats of their power, without them even knowing, and long before previously thought... It dosn't matter if you believe that he was the Son of God, that takes Guts...)

lgot · Post by **lgot** » 2002-09-11 11:47pm

Actually the dude of that site wasnt saying there is no Jesus, but there is no Jesus coming back from death...
And the Dead Sea Scrolls do not talk about him. It is a mistake because many people thought would give a clue about him, since it belong to a faction called Essenios (no idea the correct english name) one of the 5 factions that rules the hebrewish religion system and they got apart for , like Jesus, going against Sacudeus and Fariseus. The Dead sea have the daylife of this comunity and religious stuff but not Jesus. They ended ,like they fellow hebrewish killed by the romans in the wanna be revolution in the 60's because that a faction very apocalypitic.