What, if any ST ship designs could the Empire use?

[Crayz9000]

How hard would it be to retrofit the shuttlecraft with joysticks or flightsticks?

I know that Paris put a joystick in the Delta Flyer, but that was a custom-built shuttle...

[Rob Wilson]

How hard would it be to retrofit the shuttlecraft with joysticks or flightsticks?

I know that Paris put a joystick in the Delta Flyer, but that was a custom-built shuttle...

But then it's not a Fed design, plus I doubt the built quality (structural strength and safety standard) would be anywhere near allowing it on the mass market. And you still have the Computer to deal with, the touch-them-and-they-detonate naccelles and last but not least, the slow and damaging Warp drive.

I can't think of anyone that would buy them.

If it were the non-warp version they would make useful hoppers for Planetary travel of goods, but then they would have to beat the already prevelant GE version in use (whatever that might be).

[Typhonis 1]

hmmm build a Connie using Imperial tech and use em as theme cruisers "You too can relive the glory days as a member of Captain Kirks crew.See what it was like when the Federation was younger and simpler. Relive the excitement and drama of those early space voyages. excursions of one week two weeeks or even a full month are available"

[Rob Wilson]

hmmm build a Connie using Imperial tech and use em as theme cruisers "You too can relive the glory days as a member of Captain Kirks crew.See what it was like when the Federation was younger and simpler. Relive the excitement and drama of those early space voyages. excursions of one week two weeeks or even a full month are available"

Now that's a good use of a Star trek outer design.

[Patrick Ogaard]

How hard would it be to retrofit the shuttlecraft with joysticks or flightsticks?

I know that Paris put a joystick in the Delta Flyer, but that was a custom-built shuttle...

But then it's not a Fed design, plus I doubt the built quality (structural strength and safety standard) would be anywhere near allowing it on the mass market. And you still have the Computer to deal with, the touch-them-and-they-detonate naccelles and last but not least, the slow and damaging Warp drive.

I can't think of anyone that would buy them.

If it were the non-warp version they would make useful hoppers for
Planetary travel of goods, but then they would have to beat the already prevelant GE version in use (whatever that might be).

Warp shuttles would be out, of course, and the idea is not to compete with products from the likes of SoroSuub on the basis of quality. It's strictly a matter of price. Sell them cheap and someone will buy them. Fast, safe, powerful and efficient can be beat so long as you make the product cheap enough. Even the touchscreen controls can be considered a "feature." The plug-in joystick control module costs 50 Imperial credits extra, same as for the seatbelts.

Someone will buy. It may be the poor, the stupid, the rubes of the Tion Hegemony, but someone will buy. Even moisture farmers on Tattooine might want to have one in the vehicle garage next to the Skyhopper and the landspeeder, if only to make quick drop-offs and deliveries of goods.

Also, the nacelles and power systems of shuttlecraft appear to be much more robust than those of proper starships. Shuttlecraft rarely explode outright, usually making a moderately survivable hard landing when damaged. Seat belts might make them almost safe.

Remember, Federation shuttlecraft are cutting edge third world technology by the standards of the Star Wars Galactic Empire and must be marketed accordingly:

"Yessir, this here baby's the finest piece of reasonably priced UFP engineering. Tough, reliable, boxy, beige, everything you'd look for when you've got gundark dung to haul off by the cubic meter. And, for an extra fifty, we'll throw in seatbelts, fifty on top of that will get you our joystick upgrade. You couldn't buy a speeder bike for this price, and a speeder bike won't take you, your grubs, eggs and droids to the next planet."

"Plus, the built-in 'phaser' system has almost the firepower of a sporting blaster and never needs a blaster gas refill. Perfect for taking out womp rats or pesky Jawas. And, the power rating is so low, it's perfectly legal as is, without vehicular weapons permits."

[StimNeuro]

You could probably take some of the larger Federation vessels, fill them with holodecks, and turn them into interplatenary pleasure cruises. After they are given SW power plants, hyperdrive, etc.

[NecronLord]

You could probably take some of the larger Federation vessels, fill them with holodecks, and turn them into interplatenary pleasure cruises. After they are given SW power plants, hyperdrive, etc.

What, is there an echo in here?

[NecronLord]

Oh, here's one...

Borg cubes for Jawas.

[darthdavid]

Yeah that cheapo shuttle concept sounds about right. Sell em at landspeeder prices and you have a cheap ass ship that can go faster than a landspeeder, costs as much or less, does have a weapon (albeit a pitifull one), is lightley sheilded and can travel in space.

[Lord Sander]

Are there any ST ship designs that could be adapted by the EMpire to be of any use?

I'm asking out of curiousity.

Scientific research ships? Maybe.

[Phyre]

I like the SW designs better than that of ST.

[Smiling Bandit]

I could see them refitting the Galaxy-class hulls as pleasure yachts. You'd have to upgrade them, but the holodecks are more or less the same as some similar things in SW. You'd have to remove large portions of the inner structure to make room for more open spaces (and probably better direction on the interminable corridors). Still, the design is fairly aesthetic, a trait which had fallen out of favor by ANH.

I'd say the Defiant, but that type of design is more or less the same theory as the YT-1300, so its a bit of a wash. The fact is there aren't many deisgns you *can't* find in SW. I mean, they even have ships built out of the shells of dead spacebugs.

[Typhonis 1]

refit a borg cube for cargo transport .I mean 27 cubic kilometers is a lot of room.

[Rob Wilson]

refit a borg cube for cargo transport .I mean 27 cubic kilometers is a lot of room.

I was going to point out someoen had already mentioned that. Then I remembered that th posts were wiped out. So Yep, remove all the unnecessary corridors and conduit shit that fills 80% of the things volume and brace up its structure. Swap out the powerplant and engines for the SW kind, replace a huge portion of one face with loading doors and you're set.

[Typhonis 1]

Its what I posted yesterday

[Rob Wilson]

Its what I posted yesterday

Yes, but this time it was I that mentioned fitting the SW powerplant and Engines.

[Typhonis 1]

thats what I meant by refitting.May keep the transporters for low key cargo transfer .

[Rob Wilson]

I could see them refitting the Galaxy-class hulls as pleasure yachts. You'd have to upgrade them, but the holodecks are more or less the same as some similar things in SW. You'd have to remove large portions of the inner structure to make room for more open spaces (and probably better direction on the interminable corridors). Still, the design is fairly aesthetic, a trait which had fallen out of favor by ANH.

I think Eles mentioned Nebula's before, and to be honest I'd go with that over the Galaxy, simply because you can change the sensor/weapons pod for an Observation deck.

It would only be the external design though, you'd have to strip out everything else and fit proper engines in those Nacelles, and a decent powerplant as well.

I'd say the Defiant, but that type of design is more or less the same theory as the YT-1300, so its a bit of a wash. The fact is there aren't many deisgns you *can't* find in SW. I mean, they even have ships built out of the shells of dead spacebugs.

Well the Defiant is about 100-120m so it's larger than the YT-1300's, so stripped out and a decent Engine/powerplant could give you a medium freighter. But it would need cargo hatches added (the YT-1300 got away with transporting small but valuable cargo, and that's hard to get in enough bulk to fill a larger vessel, so they would need larger ingress points).

Shove the bridge where the deflector array was (unnecessary with SW tech) and hollow out and structurally reinforce the entire main body as the Cargo hold, with some Quad turrets at each 'corner' above and below and you could just about get a decent design out of it.

[Phyre]

I could see them refitting the Galaxy-class hulls as pleasure yachts. You'd have to upgrade them, but the holodecks are more or less the same as some similar things in SW. You'd have to remove large portions of the inner structure to make room for more open spaces (and probably better direction on the interminable corridors). Still, the design is fairly aesthetic, a trait which had fallen out of favor by ANH.

I'd say the Defiant, but that type of design is more or less the same theory as the YT-1300, so its a bit of a wash. The fact is there aren't many deisgns you *can't* find in SW. I mean, they even have ships built out of the shells of dead spacebugs.

Heh, a YT-2400 is the Defiant. with a different Cock-pit.

[FOG3]

Well here’s a possible use. Take a runabout or shuttle, set up it to be controlled by a droid brain and load it with Imperial explosives. After taking Sol they could use them to as cheap expendable craft to take out starbases, when they don’t have the time to go over there and do it properly or a surprise attack if they want to seize the base. Plus it being a UFP design would give them fits. When not using it against the UFP you might equip it with a cheap low end hyperdrive. No valuable technology wasted, plus cheap and expendable.

[Howedar]

It would only be the external design though, you'd have to strip out everything else and fit proper engines in those Nacelles, and a decent powerplant as well.

If we're going for strictly pleasure, I might leave the nacelles as-is, and replace the actual warp shit with pretty lights. Warp nacelles are pretty, if not functional. You could put power equipment in there, as the lights wouldn't take up a lot of space.

Shove the bridge where the deflector array was (unnecessary with SW tech) and hollow out and structurally reinforce the entire main body as the Cargo hold, with some Quad turrets at each 'corner' above and below and you could just about get a decent design out of it.

Deflectors are pretty though

[Coruscant_Dweller]

Yes - destroy them in various spectacular ways (they do explode nicely), record the explosions in technicolor holovid, sell the holovids to bored teenagers across both galaxies, and use the proceeds to build more REAL warships.

[StarshipTitanic]

Strip everything, the hulls are all funky and useless to the Imperials (When you need a special field to keep your ship together, it's time to question your design philosophy). Take the transporters, phaser arrays, and replicators. Reverse-engineer them (or force Feddy scientists to devulge their secrets) and see if they can be put into practical application on Imperial vessels. If not, toss them into a sun along with the stripped down hulls. There's no way you'll ever get anything good out of any of the spindley designs.

[RedImperator]

They're junk, the lot of them. A few might become museum pieces in the same way American museums keep native tomahawks and arrowheads on display, a few others might get bought by collectors, but that's the extent of the use the SW galaxy would have for them besides target drones, and frankly, they may not even be worth the expense of hauling back through the wormhole.

The only use they'd have would be if the Empire chose to keep the Milky Way powers as vassal states rather than outright annexing them. Then you could probably stick some Imperial technology on them (not much, and certainly nothing like a hypermatter reactor--imaging trying to retrofit a Viking longboat with a modern gas turbine engine) and keep them around for patrols and the like, until the vassals get some genuine Imperial-technology starships to replace thier fleets. They wouldn't need much--a YT-1300 freighter with Milennium Falcon mods to the powerplant and weapons systems instead of cargo space would kick the shit out of practically anything in the Milky Way.

[TurboPhaser]

Properly refitted, any of the designs could be useful. Infiltration missions for one thing.

If some group didnt know about SF or that the Imps have got their ship designs, a Galaxy would look totally alien to that group. They would have no idea it carried 1000 Stormies or a few spies or something to get them somewhere un-noticed for whatever reason they dont want to be noticed.