The Dominion Vs the Trade federation

[omegaLancer]

Not sure if this was ever done, but since the Dominion fall short against the Clone trooper, how would they fair against the Trade federation and their Droid armies...

[Ghost Rider]

I'd say the Trade Federation.

Able to mass quite a large fleet.

Have combined arms for their army...at the very least Tanks, air support and troops.

Plus their troops have less to fear about death and the Droid control ship while possibly vulnerable has to be found(anyone done any calcs on how much the Naboo Fighter's cannons do?).

[Darksider]

Not sure if this was ever done, but since the Dominion fall short against the Clone trooper, how would they fair against the Trade federation and their Droid armies...

Badly. In a ground battle the Dominion's one-dimensional army will get completly slaughtered by the droids artillary support and armored units and the Dominion ships don't have a chance in hell at beating the Trade federation fleet, since their ships are much weaker.

[Admiral Johnason]

The Trade Federation has a wider power base and all the other SW advantages. Therefore, they would win.

[Crazedwraith]

The Trade Federation has a wider power base and all the other SW advantages. Therefore, they would win.

all though i believe the trade fed would win. The dominion also has a huge empire in the gamma quadrant.

[Admiral Johnason]

The Trade Federation has a wider power base and all the other SW advantages. Therefore, they would win.

all though i believe the trade fed would win. The dominion also has a huge empire in the gamma quadrant.

But only part of a quarter of the galaxy is no match for a galaxy wide organization that has a lot of pull. Plus, the Dominion was beat by the Feds, so they have to suck.

[Crazedwraith]

The Trade Federation has a wider power base and all the other SW advantages. Therefore, they would win.

all though i believe the trade fed would win. The dominion also has a huge empire in the gamma quadrant.

But only part of a quarter of the galaxy is no match for a galaxy wide organization that has a lot of pull. Plus, the Dominion was beat by the Feds, so they have to suck.

lol. True.

[seanrobertson]

The Trade Federation has a wider power base and all the other SW advantages. Therefore, they would win.

all though i believe the trade fed would win. The dominion also has a huge empire in the gamma quadrant.

But only part of a quarter of the galaxy is no match for a galaxy wide organization that has a lot of pull. Plus, the Dominion was beat by the Feds, so they have to suck.

In fairness, those were the Feds plus Klingons plus Romulans and even Cardassians to a small extent, but you're right.

Here's another thought: I don't think the Gamma Quadrant Dominion is all that big.

Why?

When the war was over, Ma Changeling had concerns that the Romulans and/or Klingons would try to invade the Gamma Quadrant and "destroy the Great Link." She KNEW those two, particularly the Klingons, had been run through a meat grinder...she could only fear such reprisal if and only if the Dominion simply wasn't that big.

Superficially, I would agree, that doesn't make sense. The Jem'Hadar could build lots of ships, fast, even with only one dinky, resource-poor planet (Cardassia). You'd think their fleets in the Gamma Quadrant, having been built up for 2,000 years, would be gigantic.

Evidently not, though. Perhaps they incurred serious losses against the Borg or some Gamma Quadrant power heretofore unidentified. Maybe they'd all but exhausted their resources in that "ancient" territory. Who knows.

All I do know is that the Trade Federation is BIG, with potentially as many ships as the Dominion's ever had, and all those we've seen are battleships that could withstand any amount of Jem'Hadar firepower all but indefinitely.

Rabid Trekkies believe that, since Jem'Hadar weapons don't slip through shields based on some frequency trick (which is evidently correct), they'd be able to go through TF shields...at least, so I've heard before. They, of course, ignore the fact that deflectors in Star Trek are rather different than those in Wars, the former somehow partially immersed in "subspace." Dominion polaron weapons probably exploit that somehow, a facet of shielding tech never before identified in Star Wars.

[Sea Skimmer]

On the ground is a one sided slaughter in favor of the Trade Federation. In space, the Trade Federation battleships have shields that could soak of the fire of Dominion fleets, and while they're heavy guns may only be 6-megaton range like those of the Accumulator's secondary that’s enough to destroy Dominion attack ships at least.

[seanrobertson]

On the ground is a one sided slaughter in favor of the Trade Federation. In space, the Trade Federation battleships have shields that could soak of the fire of Dominion fleets, and while they're heavy guns may only be 6-megaton range like those of the Accumulator's secondary that’s enough to destroy Dominion attack ships at least.

Yep.

I wonder, could an attack ship withstand ONE hit from those megaton-ranged guns?

Also, are you sure the battleship doesn't have bigger weapons? I know the core ship is littered with 8 kiloton/shot batteries, which would still be useful against Dominion ships with any kind of massed fire. But I'd have to think those huge guns, like the ones we saw shooting at Amidala's ship as it passed over one of the donuts, might be comparable to medium TLs at least.

[seanrobertson]

I'd say the Trade Federation.

Able to mass quite a large fleet.

Have combined arms for their army...at the very least Tanks, air support and troops.

Plus their troops have less to fear about death and the Droid control ship while possibly vulnerable has to be found(anyone done any calcs on how much the Naboo Fighter's cannons do?).

I fully agree here with the sole exception of Jem'Hadar and fear. By all indications, those fuckers are EAGER to die, with the possible exception of the handful we see in "Hippocratic Oath."

Not that it makes any difference.

Insofar as the Naboo fighter weaponry, I'd have to rate them similarly to other Wars fighter blasters/cannons/what-have-you.

Only one source I know of really pegs the Naboo fighter as very special, and that's the Gamecube game "Rogue Squadron II." In it, the good old yellows were really kick-ass ships, faster, better shielded, and perhaps more powerful than X-Wings.

[Darth Yoshi]

Only one source I know of really pegs the Naboo fighter as very special, and that's the Gamecube game "Rogue Squadron II." In it, the good old yellows were really kick-ass ships, faster, better shielded, and perhaps more powerful than X-Wings.

Actually, in Rogue Leader the N-1 is about on par with the X-wing. It has the X-wing's firepower, and superior speed, but it's shields are A-wing quality with the R-2 there to repair them. In the original Rogue Squadron the N-1 was an uber fighter, but that's because it was a secret craft. Most other sources I've seen say that the N-1 is actually inferior to most craft of the era, which means the Rebels did some major retrofitting to get it on par with the X-wing.

On-topic, I think that the Trade Federation would own the Dominion. The Dominion just doesn't have the power to overwhelm the Trade Fed shields.

[horatio]

I would pick trade federation, but their leadership seems pretty inept. The Dominion would make up for lack of man power and technology by better leadership, IMO. Hard to say what that would mean, but it has always looked pretty easy to defeat the Trade Federation.

[YT300000]

Some Jemmies see Bdroids. So they charge them, yelling brave war cries. The Battle Droids turn, and blast the Jem'Haddar into small pieces.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

I would pick trade federation, but their leadership seems pretty inept. The Dominion would make up for lack of man power and technology by better leadership, IMO. Hard to say what that would mean, but it has always looked pretty easy to defeat the Trade Federation.

All the leadership in the world won't take down a tank rolling towards you if you've only got a slinghshot. The only time this did happen was a freak accident when an incompetent shield operator (maybe a droid) opened a gap in the particle shields wide enough for outgoing fighters to slip in.

The Naboo blockade fleet alone could trample the Dominion. Although there are no figures on the TradeFed battleships TLs, I'm sure they're powerful enough.

[jegs2]

If the Founders could infiltrate the Trade Federation, there may not even be a fight.

[Sea Skimmer]

If the Founders could infiltrate the Trade Federation, there may not even be a fight.

Shape shifters existing in the Star Wars Universe and they employ advanced bio scanners to detect them. Not to mention the leadership of the Trade Federation is extremely closely nit, since they're all paranoid about losing power. All the lower functions are handled by driod's.

[Wicked Pilot]

Even if the Dominion has a larger fleet, it isn't much of an advantage. With the technological advantages of the Trade Federation, then can simply hyper a handful of battleships into the GQ and destroy target after target after target. Against a marauding force with superior speed and firepower, the Dominion will be helpless. The TF need not ever engage the bulk of the Dominion fleet unless it is all huddled up against a planet they need to take out. And if the TF has accurate intelligence regarding the location of the founder homeworld, then the war will be over in a matter of hours.

[Tribun]

The Dominion wouldn't have a chance.
That the final result of all quotes until now. I think so too. The Trade Federation got superior weapons, shields and ships. They also have advanced ground combat. It would be a massacre for the Dominion.

[Patrick Ogaard]

The Dominion wouldn't have a chance.
That the final result of all quotes until now. I think so too. The Trade Federation got superior weapons, shields and ships. They also have advanced ground combat. It would be a massacre for the Dominion.

However, there might be a route to profitable coexistence.

The Trade Federation is in business to turn a profit. The Dominion has plenty of natural resources, at least the equivalent of an outlying Star Wars sector or two. There is potential profit there.

Also, by at least one definition of sapience, neither the Jem'hadar nor Vorta could be considered fully sapient. In effect they are biologically based droids, since, with terribly few exceptions, they lack anything resembling free will.

So...

The Dominion has access to an enormous supply of meat that can be produced very quickly. And, if ordered by a Founder, the livestock will even kill and dress each other's carcasses. Species that don't mind eating smart but non-sapient meat could well pay good money for extra-lean flank of Jem'hadar or extra-tender chuck of Vorta by the kiloton. The Hutts would just love it, especially if the Founders produced special half-size Vorta (AKA: bite-size).

The Founders, even if paid off in old-fashioned military junk, would still quickly build up an armory capable of whipping its weight in Borg cubes. Consider the thought of hundreds of Jem'hadar piloting first-generation Z-95 Headhunters or some generic TradeFed knockoff of the same. Or a few lightly armed bulk cargo cruisers with class 4 or even worse hyperdrives. Or combine the two.

[Ghost Rider]

The Dominion wouldn't have a chance.
That the final result of all quotes until now. I think so too. The Trade Federation got superior weapons, shields and ships. They also have advanced ground combat. It would be a massacre for the Dominion.

However, there might be a route to profitable coexistence.

The Trade Federation is in business to turn a profit. The Dominion has plenty of natural resources, at least the equivalent of an outlying Star Wars sector or two. There is potential profit there.

Also, by at least one definition of sapience, neither the Jem'hadar nor Vorta could be considered fully sapient. In effect they are biologically based droids, since, with terribly few exceptions, they lack anything resembling free will.

So...

The Dominion has access to an enormous supply of meat that can be produced very quickly. And, if ordered by a Founder, the livestock will even kill and dress each other's carcasses. Species that don't mind eating smart but non-sapient meat could well pay good money for extra-lean flank of Jem'hadar or extra-tender chuck of Vorta by the kiloton. The Hutts would just love it, especially if the Founders produced special half-size Vorta (AKA: bite-size).

The Founders, even if paid off in old-fashioned military junk, would still quickly build up an armory capable of whipping its weight in Borg cubes. Consider the thought of hundreds of Jem'hadar piloting first-generation Z-95 Headhunters or some generic TradeFed knockoff of the same. Or a few lightly armed bulk cargo cruisers with class 4 or even worse hyperdrives. Or combine the two.

LMAO...now there's a good result of a SW vs ST conflict.

Founders provide *beef*

TF provide cheap ship to knock of Borg.

[Admiral Johnason]

I forget to bring up that the TF fighters would probably be a fatch of the Dom. destroyers, so the Dom would be have only seven real battleship to slug it our with at least 20 TF battleships. Even just going by the numbers from TPM, the TF invasion fleet wouild be able to march into the GQ with heavy resistance and still lay down a hellacious asswomping on the Dom.

[Howedar]

The TradeFed battleships around Naboo were certainly no more than 50 miles apart at the beginning of TPM, meaning that the TradeFed has tens of thousands of ships at their disposal for "a minor trade dispute."