Saint Anger

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2003-05-31 11:26am

Hey, has anyone heard Mettallica's title track to there their new record yet? Personly I think it's badass.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-05-31 12:00pm

No, but I sure am liking your sig pic. Who is she?

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2003-05-31 12:10pm

Michelle Kathleen,

this is where I found the pic.
http://thebuzz.com/babewatch/women/pros ... hleen.html

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-31 12:13pm

I thought it was St. Agony.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-31 01:34pm

Tosho wrote:Hey, has anyone heard Mettallica's title track to there their new record yet? Personly I think it's badass.

I like it. It's different for sure but a really good song.

Probably won't do well, it's going to get killed for being different.

Why is it that bands, heavy metal bands especially, get critisized for having differing music?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-31 02:55pm

DAMN that's a good song.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-05-31 05:56pm

Thats odd, I wish they would pull it off the radio, well, maybe it'll grow on me.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-05-31 06:56pm

Heard it on the radio a few days ago and it sucks ass. If it weren't for the radio DJ telling me it was Metallica I would've thought it was some shit ass song by Linkin Park or Godsmack or one of those shitty dime a dozen wannabe nu-metal bands. Hetfield sounds retarded, there's no guitar solos, and the playing is so simplistic that any jackass could've done it. It sounds like a garage band doing a bad cover of a nu-metal band.

The song sucked ass and is completely indistinguishable from all the other nu-metal shit on the radio, what a fucking waste. 5+ years to write a single fuckin' album and this is the shit they come up with?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-05-31 10:33pm

aerius wrote:Heard it on the radio a few days ago and it sucks ass. If it weren't for the radio DJ telling me it was Metallica I would've thought it was some shit ass song by Linkin Park or Godsmack or one of those shitty dime a dozen wannabe nu-metal bands. Hetfield sounds retarded, there's no guitar solos, and the playing is so simplistic that any jackass could've done it. It sounds like a garage band doing a bad cover of a nu-metal band.

The song sucked ass and is completely indistinguishable from all the other nu-metal shit on the radio, what a fucking waste. 5+ years to write a single fuckin' album and this is the shit they come up with?

Thank you for proving my point.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-05-31 10:57pm

Stormbringer wrote:I like it. It's different for sure but a really good song.

Probably won't do well, it's going to get killed for being different. Why is it that bands, heavy metal bands especially, get critisized for having differing music?

Different from their other stuff for sure, but it sounds exactly like every other shitty nu-metal band. It has nothing to distinguish it from anything else, you can't hear it and go "yup, that's Metallica", I needed a DJ to tell me it was and even then it was hard to know. Even the stuff on "Load" & The Black Album I can hear 10 seconds of it and instantly know it's Metallica despite the fact that I own neither album and know only a handful of songs on them.

It's one thing to evolve and write different music, any decent artist does that. But when the artist changes styles, they better write good music for whatever style of music they're playing. If Metallica's gonna write nu-metal, they better make good nu-metal as opposed to shit that any nu-metal band can write. The new single is painful to hear, I've heard far better songs from System of a Down and even Linkin Park for crying out loud. If Metallica wants my respect for doing nu-metal songs, they better make nu-metal songs that blow every other nu-metal song out of the water, which they haven't.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-31 11:32pm

Having finally heard the REAL version, I must say that, while the video blows, the song is fairly good.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-06-01 01:37am

I thought the song was fucking awesome. Funny thing is, the album isn't out yet but well, I'll leave it at that. It's obviously wrong.

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2003-06-01 01:50am

I heard a preview off their website. Not bad. Remember the predictable order of songs? The first is always trashy, second title, third related/awesome, fourth cool balad. Guarenteed the third and fourth track will be good.

EDIT: But then again, their later albums trashed that order...

Adelfi · Post by **Adelfi** » 2003-06-01 04:44am

I dont know what song I heard from the new album but it was definitley not "nu metal"

Nu metal is really gay. Frollicking in the cornfields with two swabs of cotton in the asscheeks gay.

The new Metallica song I heard actually had Double bass.
Nu metal bands never really use double bass save for the occasional gallop.

Is it Opeth? no.
Is it Dying Fetus? Morbid Angel? Emperor? Cradle of Filth? .... no
Is it pre black album Metallica? not even close

Is it better than Whiskey-in-the-Jar-O?

Sweet Jeebus yeah!

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2003-06-01 06:02am

aerius wrote:It sounds like a garage band

One of the guys from Metallica said that, so I suppose that's what they were going for.

The song sucked ass and is completely indistinguishable from all the other nu-metal shit on the radio, what a fucking waste. 5+ years to write a single fuckin' album and this is the shit they come up with?

First of all, from what I heard on the radio a lot of people hate the song at first but grow to love it. Furthermore, who knows? Mabye the rest of Saint Anger sounds like the "classic" Metalica.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-06-01 07:56am

I thought it was ok, there is an excellent bit right near the start, and a similar bit right near the end...the stuff in the middle seems a bit too filler-ish to me, i expected more satisfying stuff personally, and some guitar solos.

Alright, but not great, better than that evanescence crap anyway.

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2003-06-01 08:11am

Rye wrote:Alright, but not great, better than that evanescence crap anyway.

Personly I'm neutral towards evanescence, truth be told the only thing I truly like about them is that hot vocalist of theirs.

We need a :drool: emoticon.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-06-01 11:05am

aerius wrote:Different from their other stuff for sure, but it sounds exactly like every other shitty nu-metal band. It has nothing to distinguish it from anything else, you can't hear it and go "yup, that's Metallica", I needed a DJ to tell me it was and even then it was hard to know. Even the stuff on "Load" & The Black Album I can hear 10 seconds of it and instantly know it's Metallica despite the fact that I own neither album and know only a handful of songs on them.

It's one thing to evolve and write different music, any decent artist does that. But when the artist changes styles, they better write good music for whatever style of music they're playing. If Metallica's gonna write nu-metal, they better make good nu-metal as opposed to shit that any nu-metal band can write. The new single is painful to hear, I've heard far better songs from System of a Down and even Linkin Park for crying out loud. If Metallica wants my respect for doing nu-metal songs, they better make nu-metal songs that blow every other nu-metal song out of the water, which they haven't.

Your whole objection seems to be that's it's nu-metal rather than any objective critisism. You don't have to like it but you seem to be objecting to it on the style and then deciding the song must suck because of that.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-06-01 12:09pm

Stormbringer wrote:Your whole objection seems to be that's it's nu-metal rather than any objective critisism. You don't have to like it but you seem to be objecting to it on the style and then deciding the song must suck because of that.

I don't like it because the song quality just isn't there, not because it's nu-metal. If they wrote kick-ass nu-metal songs that pushed the limits start to redefine nu-metal, then all the power to them. If they wrote nu-metal songs thaat were good enough that few other nu-metal bands could match them then great, they get my respects. But they haven't. What they've done instead is write a song that any nu-metal band could've written and performed, and as such they'll get as much respect as the nu-metal bands that I bitch about...which is to say none.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-06-01 09:31pm

aerius wrote:I don't like it because the song quality just isn't there, not because it's nu-metal. If they wrote kick-ass nu-metal songs that pushed the limits start to redefine nu-metal, then all the power to them. If they wrote nu-metal songs thaat were good enough that few other nu-metal bands could match them then great, they get my respects. But they haven't. What they've done instead is write a song that any nu-metal band could've written and performed, and as such they'll get as much respect as the nu-metal bands that I bitch about...which is to say none.

You seem to just have a problem with nu-metal and decided solely on that. That you've decided all nu-metal sucks and since Saint Anger is nu-metal it must suck. That seems to be all I've heard from you.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-06-01 09:54pm

Stormbringer wrote:You seem to just have a problem with nu-metal and decided solely on that. That you've decided all nu-metal sucks and since Saint Anger is nu-metal it must suck. That seems to be all I've heard from you.

I should clarify things since my bitchy wording wasn't as clear as it could be. I admit that I'm not the biggest fan of nu-metal, in fact I have a strong dislike for most of it, but there are nu-metal bands that I do like. Bands such as "System of a Down" which is fairly well known and a couple others like "Chevelle" and "Recover" which are practically unknown. They write cool songs and have my respects.

When I said "What they've done instead is write a song that any nu-metal band could've written and performed, and as such they'll get as much respect as the nu-metal bands that I bitch about" I was referring to comercialized shit like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and all those other shitty bands whose songs I hear 5 times a day on the radio and still can't tell apart because of how they all suck and sound the same. My complaint is that the new Metallica song fits squarely into the latter category.

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