We are all familiar with the Cinescape Lucas quote, right? Ceck out the paragraph right BEFORE that infamous quote:
Cinescape #62 pg. 49
And while rumors persist that an outline for a third trilogy exists (a joke Lucas made in passing to Rolling Stone, which then printed it as fact), the director insists that the only continuation to the saga will be in the form of licensed properties.
Also, check this out:
SWI #45. pg. 21
Do you have a map of the Star Wars universe in your head-where every creature comes t"n, what they eat, their society back home?
I think somewhere in the dark recesses of my company there is something like that, but I've never seen it. I don't really know. Even though I live this and I know the worlds very well, and I know what everything is, half the time I'm in the fortunate position of being able to just make it up. So if somebody asks me a question, I know what the consistencies are, I know what's consistent with a particular environment and what isn't. Part of the job of the director is to sort of keep everything in line, and I can do that in the movies-but I can't do it on the whole Star Wars universe.
"Brian, if I parked a supertanker in Central Park, painted it neon orange, and set it on fire, it would be less obvious than your stupidity." --RedImperator
Your efforts are appreciated, Poe, but as far as I'm concerned, this particular battle is over. Darkie still ain't answered my question, and under the law, silence equals consent (although one couldn't possibly call Darkstar's posts "silence"... he's like a constant white noise generator).
The quote proves that he "tries to control the movies, but not the whole star wars universe."
That proves the genuine Star Wars universe according to Lucas is materials other than his movies.
"You know what the problem with Hollywood is. They make shit. Unbelievable. Unremarkable. Shit." - Gabriel Shear, Swordfish
"This statement, in its utterly clueless hubristic stupidity, cannot be improved upon. I merely quote it in admiration of its perfection." - Garibaldi in reply to an incredibly stupid post.
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DEFINITELY post it. It completely contradicts his interpretation of the quote.
Incidentally, you may also want to post the preface to Splinter of the Mind's Eye, which I've quoted below and highlighted the important section of.
George Lucas wrote:
It wasn't long after I began writing Star Wars that I realized the story was more than a single film could hold. As the saga of Skywalkers and Jedi Knights unfolded, I began to see it as a tale that could take at least nine films to tell--three trilogies--and I realized, in making my way through the back story and after story, that I was really setting out to write the middle story.
After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story--however many films it took to tell--was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were not stories that I was destined to tell. Instead they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga. This legacy began with Splinter of the Mind's Eye, published less than a year after the release of Star Wars. Written by Alan Dean Foster, a well-known and talented science-fiction author, Splinter was promoted as a "further adventure" of Luke Skywalker. It hit the bookstores just as I was preparing to write my own "further adventure" of Luke, in the form of a script entitled The Empire Strikes Back.
It seems only fitting, after all these years, that Splinter would be republished as I prepare once again to write another further adventure set a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...
Points to note: Lucas draws a direct parallel between Splinter and Empire. and an indirect but definite parallel between Empire and the EU. Also, be particularly sure to note this sentence:
George Lucas wrote:it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga.
The capitalization of the word "Saga" defines it as a proper noun, indicating that there is only one saga he can be referring to, and that both the EU and the Star Wars films are included in it.
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Star Wars #1, July 1977, Marvel Comics
"The Story Behind Star Wars - The Movie and the Comic Mag
by Roy Thomas
It started slowly, this Star Wars project. Both for George Lucas and even for Marvel Comics.
It's a couple of years now since I met George Lucas... We met, shared a dinner and a few anecdotes and that was it.
Or so it seemed.
For, a few months later, a friend of George Lucas' looked me up. His name was Charlie Lippencott, and he was (for lack of a better term, he said) media director of George Lucas' new film, Star Wars, about which I knew nothing but the name.
Fairly understandable, since at that statge filming ahdn't even been started.
Charlie informed me, after a spaghetti dinner and some more swapped anecdotes, that he and George would like Marvel Comics in general and me in particular to handle the comic book adaptation of Star Wars..."
Star Wars #1, July 1977, Marvel Comics
Marvel Bullpen Bulletins (Archie Goodwin, Ed.)
"ITEM! To emphasize what Stan was saying in the Soapbox about the House of Ideas zooming along, let's kick off this column with a few words about another new title we're springing on you this month... STAR WARS!
If that sounds familiar, it might be because we've plugged it a bit in the past, but a much better bet is that you've been hearing about the multi-million dollar, super science-fiction film from Twentieth Century Fox upon which our comic is based. STAR WARS is an epic of the far-flung future where intergalactic war and intrigue ruin rampant... To do it justice in graphic story format, Mr. Lucas and company handpicked Marvel for the awesome adaptation task, singling out Rascally Roy Thomas as writer/editor and Wholesome Howard Chaykin as artist..."
Birth of Non-Movie Canon (OR Dispelling the Big Green Bunny Hatred Myth)
Star Wars #6, Dec. 1977 Marvel Comics
"...And yes, as heralded at the end of this issue's wind-up of the film story, just 30 days from now Thomas and Chaykin will be carrying on the story of our Star Warriors, into new areas not covered by the movie itself. It came about this way:
George Lucas himself, of course, had had plans for more than one 'Star Wars' film ever since its inception several years ago. In fact, there exist several earlier screenplays under the name 'Star Wars' which bear almost no resemblence whatever to the film as it eventually emerged, and Roy was given these to scan to see if there was anything that could be turned into a comic-book Star Wars #7 and beyond. While the screenplays are fascinating, they seem if anything to occur in the months and years before the movie itself, and we're pretty certain that it's really the likes of Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo and Chewbaaca, the droids Artoo and Threepio, that everyone wants to see more of.
Accordingly, Roy got together for lunch in Hollywood the other day with George Lucas (as well as amiable Mark Hamill, who plays Luke in the movie) to discuss the direction he and Howie would take the trip. Messrs. Thomas and Chaykin had already plotted #7 and set the direction for an issue or two beyond, but they wanted to be sure that their own scheme of things did not conflict with future plans of George himself, who oversees the movies, books, and other priceless items which'll be emanating from the Star Wars Corporation in the months to come.
Fortunately for all (since we labor always in the shadow of the Dreaded Deadline Doom), George was enthusiastic about what Roy and Howie had done, and the other directions he suggested for the trip were nearly identical to what our writer/artist team wanted to do anyway. )Which, perhaps is natural is only natural since Roy and Howie have been two of the movie's biggest boosters since long before the film was even completed, let alone released!)
Thus, beginning next issue, you'll be treated to the first-ever sequel to 'Star Wars' the film and STAR WARS the comic-mag, in a series of stories which initially will center around... Oh yes, and one final point: Roy was pleased as a parsec of punch to learn that he is one of the few people in this galaxy who is spelling the word "ookiee" correctly (namely with two "e's"). Most places, even in the movie's own program books, it's been misspelled..."
Star Wars #41, Nov. 1980, Marvel Comics
"Building An Empire- Marvel Style
by Archie Goodwin
For the last two and a half years or so, it's been my pleasure to be writer and editor of the STAR WARS comic book. Like everyone else who saw the original film by George Lucas, I came away wondering-what happens next, what are all those characters they've got us so interested in going to be doing? Unlike everyone else, I've had a monthly comic book in which to put my own speculations and imaginings on those questions to work. Aided and abetted by a lot of talented artists (most regularly Carmine Infantino, Bob Wiacik, and Gene Day), and well advised by Lucasfilm's Vice President of Publications Carol Titleman, I've set the droids adrift on a world of endless ocean, had Han and Chewbaaca duel each other in a souped-up version of a gladiatorial arena, and almost caused the Millenium Falcon to be devoured by metal-eating termites... There was a lot waiting for me. For a week I was a permanent fixture at the Los Angeles offices of Lucasfilm, Ltd; going through book after book of contact prints, selecting reference for the project from what must have been nearly 10,000 picures... and oohing and ahhing and loving every minute of it... Working side by side with me through all this was Lucasfilm's liason editor for the comics version of EMPIRE, Diana Attias. Sje amd Valerie Hoffman - who had also worked with me, coordinating earlier Star Wars comics material - kept me appriased of everything available, made valuable suggestions on which material fitted best with the latest changes in the screenplay, and patiently reminded me what freeway I was supposed to take each evening in order to get me back to my hotel...Yes, there were differences, but none of them drastic. George Lucas had requested that we not show the Wampa ice monster in any detail and that we not - in order to save the surprise - show the giant slug at all..."
The above show direct LFL and Lucas involvement in the EU since the VERY beginning, Marvel comics series. It is also verified as a sequel and intended extension/expansion of Lucas' universe.
"You know what the problem with Hollywood is. They make shit. Unbelievable. Unremarkable. Shit." - Gabriel Shear, Swordfish
"This statement, in its utterly clueless hubristic stupidity, cannot be improved upon. I merely quote it in admiration of its perfection." - Garibaldi in reply to an incredibly stupid post.
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"Brian, if I parked a supertanker in Central Park, painted it neon orange, and set it on fire, it would be less obvious than your stupidity." --RedImperator
This is starting to piss me off. They're completely ignoring this over on SB.com. Perhaps a more inflamatory thread title (ie. DarkStar's wrong, yet again) would get their attention.
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"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
I know. Its as if they just want to bury their head in the sandbox.
"You know what the problem with Hollywood is. They make shit. Unbelievable. Unremarkable. Shit." - Gabriel Shear, Swordfish
"This statement, in its utterly clueless hubristic stupidity, cannot be improved upon. I merely quote it in admiration of its perfection." - Garibaldi in reply to an incredibly stupid post.
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Don't worry; Hell is currently freezing over, so I'm updating my webpage currently! My page (And Mike's) wags the dog. DArkstar will update HIS in accordance, to "get the last word."
My page: Lncoln said, "Four score and seven years ago..."
Darkstar's rebuttal: Obviously, Poe misses the proper meaning of this quote, in which Lincoln is telling us that he got laid four times in seven years...
"Brian, if I parked a supertanker in Central Park, painted it neon orange, and set it on fire, it would be less obvious than your stupidity." --RedImperator
