Ssi-ruu, Ssi-ruuk, Ssi-ruuvi??

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2003-06-01 07:21pm

Ok I just finished reading Refugee and my question is, what is the true name, I've read Truce at Bakurea, and they were called Ssi-ruuk, right, so whats with the other names?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-01 09:17pm

IIRC, that's what different people call them.

Some people say pot-ate-oh, some say pot-ah-toe.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2003-06-01 09:22pm

Does anyone really say pot-tah-to?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-06-01 09:23pm

Ssi-ruuk = Object name (A Ssi-ruuk is attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Plural Ssi-ruuk (2 Ssi-ruu are attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Also a descriptive (The ship has ssi-ruu influences)

Ssi-ruuvi = adjective (i.e. America => American)

Ssi-ruu and ssi-ruuvi are interchangable.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-06-01 09:38pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Ssi-ruuk = Object name (A Ssi-ruuk is attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Plural Ssi-ruuk (2 Ssi-ruu are attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Also a descriptive (The ship has ssi-ruu influences)

Ssi-ruuvi = adjective (i.e. America => American)

Ssi-ruu and ssi-ruuvi are interchangable.

I am frightened that you knew that.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-06-01 09:56pm

If it helps, its my own opinion from the fact that I've read every EU novel.

Its also common sense. Plus, Dev Sibwarra specifically defines those terms in his thought processes in Truce at Bakura. Its where he's coming up with an alphabet that humans can read and understand for the Ssi-ruuvi language.

I'd give you a page number, but right now the book is 300 miles away.

edit: Just reading my quotes, and I got a picture:

Help! Two ssi-ruuk are attacking me!

I think you mean two ssi-ruu are attacking you.

Shut up and help me!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-01 10:27pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Ssi-ruuk = Object name (A Ssi-ruuk is attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Plural Ssi-ruuk (2 Ssi-ruu are attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Also a descriptive (The ship has ssi-ruu influences)

Ssi-ruuvi = adjective (i.e. America => American)

Ssi-ruu and ssi-ruuvi are interchangable.
I am frightened that you knew that.

What's so frightening about knowing that? I know about it, too. It's in WEG's Truce of Bakura Sourcebook.

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2003-06-01 10:34pm

Wow, thanks for clearying that up for me, thank you.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-06-01 10:38pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Admiral Johnason wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Ssi-ruuk = Object name (A Ssi-ruuk is attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Plural Ssi-ruuk (2 Ssi-ruu are attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Also a descriptive (The ship has ssi-ruu influences)

Ssi-ruuvi = adjective (i.e. America => American)

Ssi-ruu and ssi-ruuvi are interchangable.
I am frightened that you knew that.
What's so frightening about knowing that? I know about it, too. It's in WEG's Truce of Bakura Sourcebook.

You mean I was right? I was guessing

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-01 11:56pm

Heh, I was just going by memory. Give me a second while I go check.

....

Heh, turns out you were pretty wrong. It's actually:

Ssi-ruuk - The name of the species (ex: "We are the Ssi-ruuk").

Ssi-ruuvi - Possessive of the species (ex: "This is Ssi-ruuvi territory", "That is a Ssi-ruuvi ship").

Ssi-ruu - An individual (ex: "Don't talk to that Ssi-ruu over there").

Also, Ssi-ruu's is possessive of that individual (ex: I stepped on that Ssi-ruu's tail").

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-02 12:15am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Heh, turns out you were pretty wrong. It's actually:

Ssi-ruuk - The name of the species (ex: "We are the Ssi-ruuk").

Ssi-ruuvi - Possessive of the species (ex: "This is Ssi-ruuvi territory", "That is a Ssi-ruuvi ship").

Ssi-ruu - An individual (ex: "Don't talk to that Ssi-ruu over there").

Also, Ssi-ruu's is possessive of that individual (ex: I stepped on that Ssi-ruu's tail").

So would it be "Three Ssi-ruu" of "Three Ssi-ruuk"?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-02 12:20am

As usual, TrekBBS troll is wrong.

Ssi-ruu : the language
Ssi-ruuk: individual
Ssi-ruuvi: plural, name of species

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-02 12:43am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Heh, turns out you were pretty wrong. It's actually:
Ssi-ruuk - The name of the species (ex: "We are the Ssi-ruuk").
Ssi-ruuvi - Possessive of the species (ex: "This is Ssi-ruuvi territory", "That is a Ssi-ruuvi ship").
Ssi-ruu - An individual (ex: "Don't talk to that Ssi-ruu over there").
Also, Ssi-ruu's is possessive of that individual (ex: I stepped on that Ssi-ruu's tail").
So would it be "Three Ssi-ruu" of "Three Ssi-ruuk"?

I don't know, but "Three Ssi-ruuk" sounds like the most probable.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-06-02 01:26am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Admiral Johnason wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Ssi-ruuk = Object name (A Ssi-ruuk is attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Plural Ssi-ruuk (2 Ssi-ruu are attacking me)
Ssi-ruu = Also a descriptive (The ship has ssi-ruu influences)

Ssi-ruuvi = adjective (i.e. America => American)

Ssi-ruu and ssi-ruuvi are interchangable.
I am frightened that you knew that.
What's so frightening about knowing that? I know about it, too. It's in WEG's Truce of Bakura Sourcebook.

I read both the book and the Cronology book and all I know to call them is the Ssi-ruuk. I find it disconcerting that he knew the proper agreement off the top of his head.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-06-02 01:36am

Doesn't "Three Ssi-ruuk" sound like a nursery rhyme to anyone else?

Meh, I was half-right. Ender can go do things to himself, I'll continue being wrong and right alternately.

Hey, I think I did alright without my books. I knew ssi-rruuvi was a descriptive/posessive.

Now, let's look at Trandoshan. Thanks for the knowhow, Spanky.

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-06-02 01:31pm

How about just "Lizard dudes"?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-06-02 02:40pm

Beaked-lizard-whistling-dudes?

Now you know why the Bakurans called them "Fluties". It wasn't derrogatory, they just didn't know their ssi-ruuvi grammar.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-06-02 08:56pm

Darth Gojira wrote:How about just "Lizard dudes"?

That's what I call them, it annoys the hell out of my friend.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-02 10:40pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Beaked-lizard-whistling-dudes?

Now you know why the Bakurans called them "Fluties". It wasn't derrogatory, they just didn't know their ssi-ruuvi grammar.

The Bakurans called the Ssi-ruuk "Fluties" because of the hoots, whistles, and chirps that make up the Ssi-ruuvi language.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-06-02 10:52pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Beaked-lizard-whistling-dudes?

Now you know why the Bakurans called them "Fluties". It wasn't derrogatory, they just didn't know their ssi-ruuvi grammar.
The Bakurans called the Ssi-ruuk "Fluties" because of the hoots, whistles, and chirps that make up the Ssi-ruuvi language.

That's what you think! Its because they eat Flutie Flakes, the official cereal of Doug Flutie!!

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-03 10:42am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Beaked-lizard-whistling-dudes?

Now you know why the Bakurans called them "Fluties". It wasn't derrogatory, they just didn't know their ssi-ruuvi grammar.
The Bakurans called the Ssi-ruuk "Fluties" because of the hoots, whistles, and chirps that make up the Ssi-ruuvi language.

(insert joke about Jethro Tull)