Boarding Action: Andromeda vs. ISD II

[Mr Bean]

And as for hacking, how do you know that they can't hack into the computer with an R2 unit? Is there any evidence that their computers are vastly different?

Its assumed so however I found another case of Nano-bots in the E9-OM Series of Hacker droids which carry nano-bots to allow thier tools to be re-configured for non-standerd sockets and systems, Those prehaps could be used as they are specificly designed to Hack unknow computer systems from a varaity of Techologys, However the only time they are ever mentioned in EU is down in Courscant in a book written by KJA(ugghh) as hacking the Imperal Achives looking for lost information

[Crossover_Maniac]

And as for hacking, how do you know that they can't hack into the computer with an R2 unit? Is there any evidence that their computers are vastly different?

There are computers that are not compatable in real life within the same culture on the same planet (Earth). You're watching too much Independence Day.

[Crossover_Maniac]

Don't anyone here see that the argument for droids hacking into the Andromeda computers is very similar to the Trek argument that the Federation can steal and reverse engineer Imperial tech?

[Mr Bean]

Don't anyone here see that the argument for droids hacking into the Andromeda computers is very similar to the Trek argument that the Federation can steal and reverse engineer Imperial tech

No because only the Feddys Crossover the Imperials acutal HAVE somthing designed to do just that

How effective it is, is unknow so I don't count it though I do point out its existance

[NecronLord]

Sadist Captain; Look at the way that thing's constructed, let's ram it.

Andromeda is destroyed.

How the Imps could know there was anything valuable on the andromeda, or vice versa I can not guess.

[HemlockGrey]

The Andromeda is so vastly more manueverable than an ISD, the Imps would have no hope in hell of ramming it.

[Mr Bean]

The Andromeda is so vastly more manueverable than an ISD, the Imps would have no hope in hell of ramming it.

We are getting away from the point fokes this is not the AD vs an ISD rather its a simple how well could an AD resist boarding from the ISD and Vis versa


No one seems to hold any hope here or suggest any valid tatics for the AG troops to face off aginst the Imperals and most has been centered around how the AD would try and hold of the Imps

So lets try and get back to the subject fokes

[Antediluvian]

And as for hacking, how do you know that they can't hack into the computer with an R2 unit? Is there any evidence that their computers are vastly different?

There are computers that are not compatable in real life within the same culture on the same planet (Earth). You're watching too much Independence Day.

Perhaps you missed Mr Bean's post. They have hacking droids that can configure themselves to interface with any system.

So your different design of computer objection doesn't seem valid in this case.

And I'm not getting that from Independence Day, I've seen another pro-SW debater suggest this tactic on another message board.

Drop the ID4 routine.

[omegaLancer]

Still think it would be one hell of a fight... Just look at the host of attacks and defenses each side can use...

As for the AG trick.. The Anti grav technology allows a Star destroyer to easily with stand millions of G.. There was a case of a Star destroyer that was trap by a black hole and it was able to stand stress of millions of G before it finally was destroy... So the locking Gravity field trick described easiler should allow the storm trooper to bypass such trap.. Plus the Space armor wore by the Space Storm trooper have both Gravity repulsor and Inertia dampers... And they would be the initial troops that would enter..

Nanobots would be a hazard. Both in attacking and defensing.. The Proton Grenades that are used to breech the hull of the ship would floor the section entered with Ionization radiation that would destroy the Nanobots.

Another fact is that the repair Nanobot would be a different type than the defense nanobot and may not be able to breech storm trooper armor..

Repairing Fullerene is easy process as the varies method involve in creating Fullerene nanotubes invovle vaporization of Fullerene ( usually be laser or electrical current) and then condensating the vapor to rebuild the chain.. So even the repair Nanobots would not be tool to attack the Plastisteel of the Storm trooper armor.. Special Nanobots can be manufacture, but it would require time and in the mean while the battle would be raging..

Meanwhile what are the little attack pod Tear used to board the Neichtzen Asteriod, is that some kind of Assault pod?

[Renewed_Valour1]

Grenades: I don't think it's the reaction of the effector that's a problem, just the reaction time of the firer.

You do realize that f-lances are designed like a miniature patriot missile battery? They don't rely on the user to fire at incoming projectiles. Rather they detect the incoming and fire a series of effectors to intercept the projectiles. In automatic intercept mode you can just set a f-lance on the floor and leave it there to intercept targets. Nailing a grenade is going to be a piece of cake compared to a gauss gun round.

And as for hacking, how do you know that they can't hack into the computer with an R2 unit? Is there any evidence that their computers are vastly different?

Let me see besides the fact that Rommie is a giant quantum computer programmed by the Vedrans with everything in Common rather than English. You also better hope the systems aren't compatible. Rommie managed to nearly hack into and take over the Maru in a few seconds before it escaped her hangar within a short amount of time by coming in over the comms and everything else onboard. She'd have fun playing with the Stormtroopers electronic systems in their armor and their droids.

Then there is the small fact that Andromeda has a nasty habit of not liking someone in her head. She nearly killed Harper when he attempted to hack into her system using his dataport. Any droid that would attempt to connect to her system is going to get one big surge.

As for the AG trick.. The Anti grav technology allows a Star destroyer to easily with stand millions of G..

They are 6,000 km away from each other. I doubt they could extend their inertial dampening fields that far. Both ships are immobile also. Even then the AG fields of the Andromeda are powerful enough to resist being in close proximity to the event horizon of a blackhole.

No one seems to hold any hope here or suggest any valid tatics for the AG troops to face off aginst the Imperals and most has been centered around how the AD would try and hold of the Imps

If I were Hunt my first step would be to get the Lads into the fight. One of them would be deployed onto the hull of the Andromeda. That Tweedle would have the mission of removing any shuttles or pods the Stormies have from the hull. Try landing troops with an OE-Bot sitting on the hull of the ship you are after. I'd like to see the look on the faces of ZG Troopers when they have to deal with the Lad on the hull.

[Renewed_Valour1]

Grenades: I don't think it's the reaction of the effector that's a problem, just the reaction time of the firer.

You do realize that f-lances are designed like a miniature patriot missile battery? They don't rely on the user to fire at incoming projectiles. Rather they detect the incoming and fire a series of effectors to intercept the projectiles. In automatic intercept mode you can just set a f-lance on the floor and leave it there to intercept targets. Nailing a grenade is going to be a piece of cake compared to a gauss gun round.

And as for hacking, how do you know that they can't hack into the computer with an R2 unit? Is there any evidence that their computers are vastly different?

Let me see besides the fact that Rommie is a giant quantum computer programmed by the Vedrans with everything in Common rather than English. You also better hope the systems aren't compatible. Rommie managed to nearly hack into and take over the Maru in a few seconds before it escaped her hangar within a short amount of time by coming in over the comms and everything else onboard. She'd have fun playing with the Stormtroopers electronic systems in their armor and their droids.

Then there is the small fact that Andromeda has a nasty habit of not liking someone in her head. She nearly killed Harper when he attempted to hack into her system using his dataport. Any droid that would attempt to connect to her system is going to get one big surge.

As for the AG trick.. The Anti grav technology allows a Star destroyer to easily with stand millions of G..

They are 6,000 km away from each other. I doubt they could extend their inertial dampening fields that far. Both ships are immobile also. Even then the AG fields of the Andromeda are powerful enough to resist being in close proximity to the event horizon of a blackhole.

No one seems to hold any hope here or suggest any valid tatics for the AG troops to face off aginst the Imperals and most has been centered around how the AD would try and hold of the Imps

If I were Hunt my first step would be to get the Lads into the fight. One of them would be deployed onto the hull of the Andromeda. That Tweedle would have the mission of removing any shuttles or pods the Stormies have from the hull. Try landing troops with an OE-Bot sitting on the hull of the ship you are after. I'd like to see the look on the faces of ZG Troopers when they have to deal with the Lad on the hull.

The other one would then jet over to the ISD and get on her hull. It's mission would be to interdict further launches of craft from the ISD and also to blow open or provide cover while they open hangar doors with SpecOps Lancer Pods. I'd prefer to find a hangar devoid of AT-ATs if I could. At that point if I had Ung Tae Hovertanks I'd send them in to secure the ISDs hangar bays along with the lone Tweedle. I'll have more coming later as I think some more on how to do it.

[HemlockGrey]

Perhaps the ZG troopers could strap those really powerful(Class A?) therno dets to the hull in huge numbers? Blow a shitload of holes in the Andromeda, overwork the nanobots and AG fields?

[Lord of the Farce]

IIRC, Imperial Space Troopers in their special armour have enough fire power to take down shielded starfighters with their mini-torps.

[Mr Bean]

Ahem allow me

You do realize that f-lances are designed like a miniature patriot missile battery? They don't rely on the user to fire at incoming projectiles. Rather they detect the incoming and fire a series of effectors to intercept the projectiles. In automatic intercept mode you can just set a f-lance on the floor and leave it there to intercept targets. Nailing a grenade is going to be a piece of cake compared to a gauss gun round.

Ahh so they don't notice the sticks on the ground where they gernades the weapons fire and the gernade goes boom?
COPL-Maa-talb Gerandes, Small hand help gernades roughly the size of a palm pilot(They can be tucked into a shirt and not be noticeable) have enough power to *Take down a large building, While this could be anywhere from 5-20 Storys we do know-however that Han expected the gernade to take out a pair of shuttles that where over thirty meters apart from each other and considering the nessary hull strenght to just surive vacume thats saying somthing. The kind Han was carriering where designed for Sucided Bombers as it containts a point and kaboom rather than any timer or some such remote equipment, probably why it could be so small. ROTJ Novelsation the Thermal Detonator Leia held was supposed to kill everyone in a thirty meter by twenty two irregular chamaber and she expected it quiet readily

That was a run of the Mil-Thermal Detonator to... Considering what your up aginst here these are not Frag gernades here but powerful weaponry

Also EMP gernades while pretty nasty on the Nano-bots and the ship should not harm the Stormys, there armor is specked to take it

Let me see besides the fact that Rommie is a giant quantum computer programmed by the Vedrans with everything in Common rather than English. You also better hope the systems aren't compatible. Rommie managed to nearly hack into and take over the Maru in a few seconds before it escaped her hangar within a short amount of time by coming in over the comms and everything else onboard. She'd have fun playing with the Stormtroopers electronic systems in their armor and their droids

Driods have built in reporgraming for a reason... You can't mid battle hack one to attack somthing else Imperal Driods have both programing and in most series PHYISCAL Locks on changing thier programing at any point

Then there is the small fact that Andromeda has a nasty habit of not liking someone in her head. She nearly killed Harper when he attempted to hack into her system using his dataport. Any droid that would attempt to connect to her system is going to get one big surge.

Ok NEARLY killed Harper but not quite
Agian don't you think this would be somthing very simple to think about ahead of time?(Hint Surge Protectors )

If I were Hunt my first step would be to get the Lads into the fight. One of them would be deployed onto the hull of the Andromeda. That Tweedle would have the mission of removing any shuttles or pods the Stormies have from the hull. Try landing troops with an OE-Bot sitting on the hull of the ship you are after. I'd like to see the look on the faces of ZG Troopers when they have to deal with the Lad on the hull.

ZG-Troopers have weapons with enough power to take down X-wings in a shot or two and considering X-Wing shielding.... OUCH thats some fire-power

The other one would then jet over to the ISD and get on her hull. It's mission would be to interdict further launches of craft from the ISD and also to blow open or provide cover while they open hangar doors with SpecOps Lancer Pods. I'd prefer to find a hangar devoid of AT-ATs if I could. At that point if I had Ung Tae Hovertanks I'd send them in to secure the ISDs hangar bays along with the lone Tweedle. I'll have more coming later as I think some more on how to do it.

Not realy possible considering the Design of the BIG BAY ISD,
You can send it to the one with At-Ats...

Or the umm... one with At-Ats.....

Or the umm other one with At-Ats

Generaly its just one bay soooo

[His Divine Shadow]

I doubt the Imperial inertia compensators can actually match the AG fields on the GHC's.

Imperial inertia compensators-designed for accelerations of 3000 g's.

GHC AG fields: designed to counters accelerations of 170,000 g's.

Big difference here.

You're full of fucking shit, as usual.
On this site alone you can find examples where IC's have stood up against millions of G's.

[His Divine Shadow]

Tell that to Obi Wan. "If droids could think for themselves, we wouldn't be here." This quote is from Episode II: AotC. Droids aren't truly sentient, instead are programmed to give people the impression they are sentient.

Perhaps you should just STFU right now? Or do you wish to continue bullshitting everyone here?

Also, while a few people seen a Wookie rip the arms off a droid, no one ever seen a droid rip off a wookie's arms until Rommie pays Chewbacca a visit.

Suuure whatever...
It'll be funny, yet sad to see beatiful Rommie shot in the head.

[His Divine Shadow]

Pg. 13: Droids range from simple machines to complex, sentient artificial beings. They are generally treated as mere utility devices regardless of their level of intelligence, and most citizens hardly notice them.
Memory wipes, which are customarily performed when a droid acquires a new owner, can delete filed information or completely erase a droids stored experiences. When "zeroed" this way, even sophisticated droids may be rendered barely self-aware.

(ref: Star Wars Episode II - The Visual Dictionary)

[His Divine Shadow]

Let me see besides the fact that Rommie is a giant quantum computer programmed by the Vedrans with everything in Common rather than English. You also better hope the systems aren't compatible. Rommie managed to nearly hack into and take over the Maru in a few seconds before it escaped her hangar within a short amount of time by coming in over the comms and everything else onboard. She'd have fun playing with the Stormtroopers electronic systems in their armor and their droids.

Or she'll not be able to at all because what you are talking about are two systems built on the same basic tech, they're not totally alien from each other.

Then there is the small fact that Andromeda has a nasty habit of not liking someone in her head. She nearly killed Harper when he attempted to hack into her system using his dataport. Any droid that would attempt to connect to her system is going to get one big surge.

Assuming she can remember how to eject waste anti-protons after she's gotten hit with ion cannon fire.

[NecronLord]

How the Imps could know there was anything valuable on the andromeda, or vice versa I can not guess.

This is pointless, There is nothing remotely useful to the other on either one. It'd be like trying to power your car off a nuclear reactor.

[omegaLancer]

Well both side could be hunting for new technology. TL for Andromeda and Mass lightening for ISD....

[His Divine Shadow]

Well both side could be hunting for new technology. TL for Andromeda and Mass lightening for ISD....

TL's? I think they would want power generation and shield tech.
Hyperspace would also be incredibly usefull for intra-galatic travels and for the everyday guy.

[omegaLancer]

Oh that too, there a host of technology both sides possess that the other would desire...

FTL sensors, CW sorely need it.. Slipstream for empire to expand rapidly into surrond galaxies..

[NecronLord]

I thought it was for repairs?

[His Divine Shadow]

Oh yeah, bah, I'm bored with this topic.

[NecronLord]

Your sig is, amusing