Would you resort to torture?

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. . .well, yeah.
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closet sci-fi fan wrote: Question: Do you torture the marauder for information?
Only if I can't win him over with promises of a high position and (comparative) wealth first--he can always be murdered once their camp has been secured, if I judge him totally untrustworthy, or if he has some modicum of value, merely appropriately watched so that any plots he makes come to a bad end.

Even then, I probably wouldn't torture him, but just give him a choice between the above - power and wealth as was possible for a leader in the community I ruled - or immediate execution. It's highly unlikely that the average individual would have the courage, or the loyalty to a band of marauders, to pass up the former and face the latter, and it would be far more effective than the forms of physical torture available in a post-apocalyptic age.
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Of course.
But, we are talking survival here, right? I wouldn't get the blowtorch and pliers out just to punish someone, but if it's a life or death fight for survival, he can talk or kiss his nipples bye-bye.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
closet sci-fi fan wrote: Question: Do you torture the marauder for information?
it would be far more effective than the forms of physical torture available in a post-apocalyptic age.
Er... and you know the forms of physical torture available in a post-apocalyptic age... how? Hmmm....

On, to my own answer...

Torture good, torture very good. :twisted: :twisted:
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Threatened executions like the Duchess says might work better.

If I had to choose torture or not, I guess I would.
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meNNis wrote: Er... and you know the forms of physical torture available in a post-apocalyptic age... how? Hmmm....
It would be reasonable to assume that sensory-deprivation tanks and truth drugs would not be available, though perhaps electric shock therapy could be applied, but that's little more than another form of physical torture.
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Catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I agree with the Duchess; however, if there were absolutely no other way to get the information, I'd torture him and kill the fuckers.
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I'd prefer the Duchess' solution. If all else failed, yeah, I'd probably torture the guy. I wouldn't do it gladly though.
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neoolong wrote:Threatened executions like the Duchess says might work better.

If I had to choose torture or not, I guess I would.
It could be nicely staged. I could offer him a high post and wealth, and when he refused, order the lictors to take him to the scaffold. When they began to drag him off, or even right at the point when the noose was put around his neck, one of my advisors could intercede with me and say "Do not kill him, this man is of worth to us!" And I could then give him another chance to accept.
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I certainly would, if other options failed.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
neoolong wrote:Threatened executions like the Duchess says might work better.

If I had to choose torture or not, I guess I would.
It could be nicely staged. I could offer him a high post and wealth, and when he refused, order the lictors to take him to the scaffold. When they began to drag him off, or even right at the point when the noose was put around his neck, one of my advisors could intercede with me and say "Do not kill him, this man is of worth to us!" And I could then give him another chance to accept.
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I find some of you "hell yeah, torture is cool" guys funny, simply because you're all talk and wouldn't have the balls to do it at all. :roll:

I wouldn't have the balls to do it, but if all other methods of extracting this information from the prisoner failed (and this information would save my settlement from being wiped-out by this hostile force) then yes, I would torture him. I would, however, be wrestling with my morals and guilt for a long damn time. :(

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Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I find some of you "hell yeah, torture is cool" guys funny, simply because you're all talk and wouldn't have the balls to do it at all. :roll:

I wouldn't have the balls to do it, but if all other methods of extracting this information from the prisoner failed (and this information would save my settlement from being wiped-out by this hostile force) then yes, I would torture him. I would, however, be wrestling with my morals and guilt for a long damn time. :(

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I would eventually, it wouldn't be my first option...But I would resort to it.
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I was tempted to put a, how would you torture someone, in the hos a while back. maybe I should.

problem with torture is that kills them if you dont know what your doing, and often makes them say what you want them to say, not tell the truth.
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"You know, people complain a lot about torture, but when you get right down to it, it's a good way of finding out something someone doesn't want you to know."
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I would, however, be wrestling with my morals and guilt for a long damn time.
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I dont think Id feel guilt. maybe I would. but I dont think so.

Id have more vivid nightmares tho.
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I'd tie off his extremities and start cutting them off piece by piece.
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hed die of shock.
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Carrot AND the stick.

As long as there is fire, or two rocks, (hammer and anvil) or even fists, torture is an option.
An unbelievable amount of pain can result from breaking a limb, letting it swell, and manipulating it in it's broken swolen condition.
Pain itself might not be enough. You have to find what the victim fears most. Spiders, snakes, hights, claustrophobia, fire, drowning. If you can't figure him out, (or her)pain and humiliation.

Physco stuff might work as well. Put out an eardrum. Put out an eye.

Them ask how being blind/deaf sounds like, in a dog eat dog anarchy hell.

Put a bag over their face. Suffocate to pass out point. (not dead, and semi consious is ok) Ask question. No answer? Repeat, as needed.

Genital mutilation. No details needed here. Balls, vice, fill in the blanc.
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Keep him awake for days on end. You don't *have* to get physiscal...
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You know, I fantasize about torturing my enemies day in and day out in very creative ways but I sure as hell can't think of one right now.


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Physical torture isn't the most effective way of getting information. I'd try to break him using other means, invented by the good ole' communist folks.

Sleep deprivation for once. Keep him awake, locked in a cell with light turned all 24 hours a day. Keep him malnutritioned. Beatings are not necessary, though they may be a way of humilitating him. Then start to slowly induce a feeling of shame and humilitation (Why do you resist? Can't you see that we hate doing this? Why are your so...cruel to force us to abuse you so much?) - make it so that the guy thinks that HE is responsible for his suffering. Of course, YOU will not be involved. It will be your people who'll beat him, pretending to be doing the real interrogations.

Then you show up, shout at your men for being so cruel to this poor, poor man, apologize to him for this, assure that you knew nothing, and start the promises - as Dutchess said, give him a vision of a nice life when he betrays his comrades. Show that he's been betrayed, that his marauding friends don't care about him. Play to be his friend, after a few days of sleep and food deprivation all you'll need will be a bottle of vodka and a kind, listening ear. Ask about his friends. Ask about his family, does he have a girlfriend, then if he needs something. Say that you will make sure the beatings will stop, and give him what he asked (he won't ask for much, probably food or the opportunity to see the sun. If he asks to be set free, kindly explain to him that your people would burn you for that, and he wouldn't want to loose his single friend here, now would he?)

Meet with him every day. Talk like you would with a normal guy. When he starts to draw out his deepest thoughts out and share them with you, you have him.
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I would use Pezook's method at first and if that failed this site is full of ideas.
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