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Can Data outmatch a terminator??

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Just what the title says

SCENARIO : The Enterprise D is a drift in space, most of the power is off, a few systems are still up and running, lights are flickering, and life support is off completely. Data has been evading the T-1000 on the ship for almost three hours, but his time has run out. Walking towards a functioning turbo lift, he hears footsteps and looks back down the long cooridor, the T-1000 is just coming around the corner, beginning to draw its 9mm pistol. Data quickly gets into the turbo lift, and begins putting manual commands into the consol, in a hope to get it started. The T-1000 begins to accelerate and run full speed towards Data, firing its gun, POW! POW! POW! POW! The door closes just as the terminator gets to them, he collides with the door, smashing them inwards into the turbo lift, the T-1000 smacking into data, and the hand to hand combat begins,

The 9mm piston has fallen to the ground,

This is the upgraded Data from ST:FC, the one who's back and chest were bullet resistant.

For some odd reason, there is (insert technobabble) liquid at the base of the turbo lift shaft, which can destroy both robots,

Who comes out alive on this one.
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Plleeeeeaase both fall to there doom :D

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This whole senereo is unrealistic, Data would be dead in 30 minutes, let alone those whole 3 hours :P
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RayCav of ASVS wrote:This whole senereo is unrealistic, Data would be dead in 30 minutes, let alone those whole 3 hours :P
Can the t-1000 even hurt Data
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Can the t-1000 even hurt Data
See T-1000 make spear hand

See T-1000 Stap Data in the eye

Die Data Die :shock: 8)

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Omega-13 wrote:
RayCav of ASVS wrote:This whole senereo is unrealistic, Data would be dead in 30 minutes, let alone those whole 3 hours :P
Can the t-1000 even hurt Data
Fuck yeah, unless you're a Trekkie Retard
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To quote a much loved warcraft unit

"Slice and dice"

There wont be much left of Data by the time the T-1000's done with him
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T-1000 pretends to be ugly E-D hallway carpet. Data unknowingly walks over T-1000, who rises up, taking Data's form. Data turns around in shock as T-1000 stabs Data in the face. Data falls to the deck, dead. T-1000 touches a comm panel on the wall.

"Data to Picard. I have eliminated the intruder."

"Excellent, Mr. Data. Come to my Ready Room and give a full report."

"On my way..."
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IronicTwist wrote:T-1000 pretends to be ugly E-D hallway carpet. Data unknowingly walks over T-1000, who rises up, taking Data's form. Data turns around in shock as T-1000 stabs Data in the face. Data falls to the deck, dead. T-1000 touches a comm panel on the wall.

"Data to Picard. I have eliminated the intruder."

"Excellent, Mr. Data. Come to my Ready Room and give a full report."

"On my way..."
Hehe, a senereo befitting your name :D
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I think you guys are pretty much right, the t-1000 smokes Data in a short order, but you know what gets me going?
When people always refer to the t-1000 as liquid, THATS NOT TRUE, and knowone said it here, just a friend of mine today,

he's not liquid, or he'd splash all over the floor, and not be able to hold its form, nevermind lift anything. The t-1000 has a density at normal operation conditions (like walking, and doing everyday stuff) of wood, a hard wood,

The reason I say this,
a) handgun bullets dont go through him, only shotgun blasts (see chase scene out of mental hospital)

b) when the t-1000 gets tossed into the wall in the shopping mall, he doesn't squish,

c) takes a headbutt from arnold, and doesn't leave a single mark

d) when hit with the 40mm grenade, he doesn't comletely blow apart, like a tree would of similar girth, or he didn't chunk into tomato paste like a human body, if anything he's stronger than wood at normal operation

Everyone thinks that if you punched him, your hand would go through him, not so at all, you'd break your fist, may aswell punch concrete.

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Omega-13 wrote:I think you guys are pretty much right, the t-1000 smokes Data in a short order, but you know what gets me going?
When people always refer to the t-1000 as liquid, THATS NOT TRUE, and knowone said it here, just a friend of mine today,

he's not liquid, or he'd splash all over the floor, and not be able to hold its form, nevermind lift anything. The t-1000 has a density at normal operation conditions (like walking, and doing everyday stuff) of wood, a hard wood,

The reason I say this,
a) handgun bullets dont go through him, only shotgun blasts (see chase scene out of mental hospital)

b) when the t-1000 gets tossed into the wall in the shopping mall, he doesn't squish,

c) takes a headbutt from arnold, and doesn't leave a single mark

d) when hit with the 40mm grenade, he doesn't comletely blow apart, like a tree would of similar girth, or he didn't chunk into tomato paste like a human body, if anything he's stronger than wood at normal operation

Everyone thinks that if you punched him, your hand would go through him, not so at all, you'd break your fist, may aswell punch concrete.

rant over
Not to mention....

a) Data has a slow reaction speed under normal conditions - he only "speeds up" for mundane operations

b) Data is arguably slow-witted

c) Data is not tactically intelligent, athough he would have to overcome obsticle b) as a preresequete
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Re: Can Data outmatch a terminator??

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Omega-13 wrote:Just what the title says

SCENARIO : The Enterprise D is a drift in space, most of the power is off, a few systems are still up and running, lights are flickering, and life support is off completely. Data has been evading the T-1000 on the ship for almost three hours, but his time has run out. Walking towards a functioning turbo lift, he hears footsteps and looks back down the long cooridor, the T-1000 is just coming around the corner, beginning to draw its 9mm pistol. Data quickly gets into the turbo lift, and begins putting manual commands into the consol, in a hope to get it started. The T-1000 begins to accelerate and run full speed towards Data, firing its gun, POW! POW! POW! POW! The door closes just as the terminator gets to them, he collides with the door, smashing them inwards into the turbo lift, the T-1000 smacking into data, and the hand to hand combat begins,

The 9mm piston has fallen to the ground,

This is the upgraded Data from ST:FC, the one who's back and chest were bullet resistant.

For some odd reason, there is (insert technobabble) liquid at the base of the turbo lift shaft, which can destroy both robots,

Who comes out alive on this one.
Isn't this a little bit unfair......I mean Data can't hurt the T1000 unless he has access to a phaser, or a 40mm grenade launcher&molten pit? I'm curious why even start such a topic?
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Omega-13 wrote:Just what the title says

SCENARIO : The Enterprise D is a drift in space, most of the power is off, a few systems are still up and running, lights are flickering, and life support is off completely. Data has been evading the T-1000 on the ship for almost three hours, but his time has run out. Walking towards a functioning turbo lift, he hears footsteps and looks back down the long cooridor, the T-1000 is just coming around the corner, beginning to draw its 9mm pistol. Data quickly gets into the turbo lift, and begins putting manual commands into the consol, in a hope to get it started. The T-1000 begins to accelerate and run full speed towards Data, firing its gun, POW! POW! POW! POW! The door closes just as the terminator gets to them, he collides with the door, smashing them inwards into the turbo lift, the T-1000 smacking into data, and the hand to hand combat begins,

The 9mm piston has fallen to the ground,

This is the upgraded Data from ST:FC, the one who's back and chest were bullet resistant.

For some odd reason, there is (insert technobabble) liquid at the base of the turbo lift shaft, which can destroy both robots,

Who comes out alive on this one.
Isn't this a little bit unfair......I mean Data can't hurt the T1000 unless he has access to a phaser, or a 40mm grenade launcher&molten pit? I'm curious why even start such a topic?
He knows the ship very well, and controls, he might be able to send the entire turbo lift down, and try to escape up the roof hatch,
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Or if he can get the ship's systems back online and transport the T-1000 into something, preferably a star. This plays to data's strength, namely typing very fast.
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NecronLord wrote:Or if he can get the ship's systems back online and transport the T-1000 into something, preferably a star. This plays to data's strength, namely typing very fast.
thats true, if Data could get out of the turbo lift, and escape from the t-1000, he might be able to do that

but,
how if he got out of the turbo lift, how would he get away from the t-1000 hot on his heels
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Omega-13 wrote: Everyone thinks that if you punched him, your hand would go through him, not so at all, you'd break your fist, may aswell punch concrete.
Actually, IIRC, in T2 Arnie punches him and his hand sinks in. The T-1000 then "remolds" himself so that he is holding Armies hand. This is probably why people think your hand would sink in. This would only work if:
A) You had the strength of a T-800 series terminator or greater.
B) The T-1000 hasn't hardened himself like he does when he makes his arms blades.
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Omega-13 wrote:
NecronLord wrote:Or if he can get the ship's systems back online and transport the T-1000 into something, preferably a star. This plays to data's strength, namely typing very fast.
thats true, if Data could get out of the turbo lift, and escape from the t-1000, he might be able to do that

but,
how if he got out of the turbo lift, how would he get away from the t-1000 hot on his heels
Computer Deck one bridge.
Computer diable all turbolifts.
Flactally encrypts the computer.
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I am assuming that data somehow beats the t-1000 to the lift. maybe he puts up a forcefeild somehow.
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NecronLord wrote:I am assuming that data somehow beats the t-1000 to the lift. maybe he puts up a forcefeild somehow.
And T-1000 simply walks right through. This scenero ends in 5 seconds with a Terminator victory.
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much fun as trek bashing is, how does a T-1000 walk through a force feild? has it ever done that? That's terkkie logic, it can get through bars, so it can get through force-feilds.
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NecronLord wrote:much fun as trek bashing is, how does a T-1000 walk through a force feild? has it ever done that? That's terkkie logic, it can get through bars, so it can get through force-feilds.
I'm very well aware of that

It's perfectly arbitrary, I know. To tell you the truth, I just felt like saying it :D

Despite the fact that there is no evidence, he still can get through.

1.) Turn hand into spike
2.) Drill spike through force feild control panel

That'll still delay him for about a few seconds, not enough :P
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by witch time data's run down the corridor and onto the next five. Assuming of course the T-1000 is not destroyed; hey he's possibly nanobots isn't he? It would take him about twenty seconds to work it out, MINIMUM. Data's only chance is his familiarity with the enviroment.
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NecronLord wrote:by witch time data's run down the corridor and onto the next five. Assuming of course the T-1000 is not destroyed; hey he's possibly nanobots isn't he? It would take him about twenty seconds to work it out, MINIMUM. Data's only chance is his familiarity with the enviroment.
Wha?

T-1000 is either not nanobots or some really unsual nanobots. He can resist a host of enviroments that would easily destroy most nanobots, and his nanobots must have micro fusion reactors to do all that stuff with such small space for fuel.
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Someone on this board said that, I don't belive it either, hence the *possibly*
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RayCav of ASVS wrote:
NecronLord wrote:much fun as trek bashing is, how does a T-1000 walk through a force feild? has it ever done that? That's terkkie logic, it can get through bars, so it can get through force-feilds.
I'm very well aware of that

It's perfectly arbitrary, I know. To tell you the truth, I just felt like saying it :D

Despite the fact that there is no evidence, he still can get through.

1.) Turn hand into spike
2.) Drill spike through force feild control panel

That'll still delay him for about a few seconds, not enough :P
If we are talking about the hallway forcefields than there are no controls......the forcefields are controlled from the bridge or by voice command.
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