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SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-06-06 07:18pm

http://www.games-workshop.com/membershi ... ID=1809046

PETA member bitches about how Space Wolves in the game Warhammer 40K wear the pelts of Fenrisian Wolves.

It's a pity the thread was locked...

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-06 07:22pm

What the fuck. Not only do they complain about real animals, but also fake ones as well.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-06-06 07:34pm

If he'd left it at "they revere the wolf but wear it's skin, what a paradox" he might've had a point.
But, Jesus....

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-06-06 09:13pm

When I thought they could not get any stupider, they start bitching about stuff where no animals were actually harmed. At least it was only one person, and PETA itself hasn't started a public campaign against virtual fur.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-06-06 09:22pm

and they *dont* complain about the hordes of chaos that have killed billions of people?

I mean, have you read the chaos book???

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-06-06 09:27pm

MY GOD! those people really have nothing better to do. If there going that far why don't complain about the fucking jurrassic park toys where the dinosaurs have "Battle Damage" because that makes just as much sense to me... those dumb fuck sticks

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-06 09:54pm

I take it they wouldn't like Dino Crisis then.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-07 02:23am

SAMAS wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/membershi ... ID=1809046

PETA member bitches about how Space Wolves in the game Warhammer 40K wear the pelts of Fenrisian Wolves.

It's a pity the thread was locked...

Where does he say that he's a PETA member?? Not all vegans are affliated with the PETA.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-06-07 05:58am

Here.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-06-07 11:38am

I'd like to take this moment to remind people of the few good things that Peta has done in it's quest to turn people into vegans and to stop wearing furn.

No Meat

No Fur 1

No Fur 2

As annoying as the stupider elements of PETA are it's stuff like this that makes me hope they keep on trying.

Actually I think they should try harder.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-06-07 11:38am

Since I don't play WH40k (and therefore cannot refuse to play a game with them), I would instead spit on the ground in front of them, and tell them that they should go out and try to join a pack of wolves themselves. (Then volunteer to have them heli-dropped into the Alaskan wilderness near the territory of said pack.)

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-07 11:49am

BTW, the Space Wolves are supposed to barbarians. And therefore, they do.... uhm, barbaric things like wearing wolf pelts. Because.... uhm, they're like Frankenstein and stuff. Frankenstein does stuff like that.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-06-07 02:25pm

Tsyroc wrote:I'd like to take this moment to remind people of the few good things that Peta has done in it's quest to turn people into vegans and to stop wearing furn.

No Meat

No Fur 1

No Fur 2

As annoying as the stupider elements of PETA are it's stuff like this that makes me hope they keep on trying.
Actually I think they should try harder.

Now, show me the ones where it's a guy

Oh... when the circle came to town last month, a local(?) PETA member placed herself outside the downtown mall, demonstrating inside a cage wearing nothing but tiger-stripe body paint.

Sothis · Post by **Sothis** » 2003-06-07 02:28pm

Ah PETA, gotta love 'em, persistant (if stupid) bastards. Got a blurb about 'em on my site now: http://sothis5.com/Perils_of_Peta.html

For those unfamilar with the above organisation, PETA stands for 'People for Ethical Treatment of Animals'. It was founded in 1980, operating under the following principles: 'animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. PETA educates policymakers and the public about animal abuse and promotes an understanding of the right of all animals to be treated with respect.'

Perhaps on the point of wearing, I can understand (well, I can understand the idea of not killing for an animals fur- we can make clothes out of so many different things, or we can shave a sheep!), but human beings are historically omnivorous, meaning we eat both meat and vegatables. We've been eating meat since caveman times.

As for entertainment... well... whipping a bear or lion into performing tricks isn't something I approve of, and nor would I approve beating or harming an animal into doing something. Animals can be trained with the use of food, affection and love; there's no need to be brutal.

A big problem that I have with PETA is that they will often equate animal suffering as being an equal or more important problem than that of human suffering, and the sad thing is, PETA's view often wins out. I can only imagine how many millions of dollars PETA brings in via it's fund-raising events- millions that could be spent on childrens charities, or on aid campaigns for Africa, or for helping people in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. Not long ago PETA published a website that compared the appalling treatment of the Jews during the Holocaust to that of battery chickens. Masskilling.com would have us believe that chickens are equal to humans. When have you seen a chicken build a skyscraper, or develop a new form of power, or unlock the secrets of bio-chemistry? Ok, so needless cruelty is just that, needless, but if given a choice about who to save, the Jews or the chickens, I'd choose the Jews. I wouldn't even begin to compare human suffering on such a scale as the Holocaust to that of chickens!!!

Another problem I have with PETA is their drive to stop people eating meat. There is a lot of stuff on their website about how meat-eating and drinking milk can lead to various health problems, and how vegatarians live longer lives (though no links to the studies that revealed that information are present on their site). Even if we accept PETA at their word, at the end of the day, we are the dominant species on the planet, and if we choose to eat meat- well, it is not PETA's right to tell us we can't. Their points out that animals have no say in whether or not we eat them- the antelope has no say as to whether or not the lion eats it, yet there is no campaign underway for equal rights on the African savannah. The only difference (in respect of catching our food) between the human and the lion is how we catch and process our food.

If people choose to become vegatarian, then that's fine with me. I won't hold it against them, though I do suggest that would-be vegatarian mums take a look at this: An article concerning vitamin deficiencies and lack of child development. There is also secondary information on the matter here.

If you wish to eat meat and be healthy, then eat vegatables to supplement your meat intake. If you so wish, there are vitamin pills available too, and of course, exercise regularly. Go to the gym, go swimming, go on long meandering walks in the countryside. It doesn't matter if you eat solely vegatarian diets or an omnivorous diet, if you sit on your arse all day, you'll develop problems. And please, don't be like Mr Barber!!!

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-07 04:33pm

Sothis wrote: Not long ago PETA published a website that compared the appalling treatment of the Jews during the Holocaust to that of battery chickens.

Don't forget that this "argument" for vegetarism is quite hypocritical considering that Hitler was a vegetarian....

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » 2003-06-07 05:58pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Don't forget that this "argument" for vegetarism is quite hypocritical considering that Hitler was a vegetarian....

It was more of a forced thing, due to medical problems. He ate meat in his younger years, but couldn't handle it due to ulcers or something later on.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-07 06:20pm

PROMETHEUS wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:Don't forget that this "argument" for vegetarism is quite hypocritical considering that Hitler was a vegetarian....
It was more of a forced thing, due to medical problems. He ate meat in his younger years, but couldn't handle it due to ulcers or something later on.

Didn't mellow him out any.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2003-06-07 06:22pm

PROMETHEUS wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:Don't forget that this "argument" for vegetarism is quite hypocritical considering that Hitler was a vegetarian....
It was more of a forced thing, due to medical problems. He ate meat in his younger years, but couldn't handle it due to ulcers or something later on.

Yeah, and he was wondering how to make his dog (Blondi) become a vegetarian as well...and when someone ate dinner with him, he threw disgusting comments about meat-eating to kill everyone's apetite...

Maybe it originated because of medical problems, but he sure as hell became fanatical about vegetarianism eventually...

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-06-07 09:42pm

Wow, thats just, well....sad. Sorta scary a bit also.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-06-07 10:37pm

Hitler was a vegan? No wonder he was so fucked up.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-06-08 12:18am

LadyTevar wrote: Now, show me the ones where it's a guy

I think the bunny is male.

...but I'll keep an eye out.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-06-08 01:10am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Sothis wrote: Not long ago PETA published a website that compared the appalling treatment of the Jews during the Holocaust to that of battery chickens.
Don't forget that this "argument" for vegetarism is quite hypocritical considering that Hitler was a vegetarian....

They called that "Holocaust on Your Plate", right?

What about "Holocaust in Your Brain"? I'm sure hearing their arguments killed off some of my brain cells.

"To your brain, you're a Nazi for reading this"

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-08 02:41am

PeZook wrote: Yeah, and he was wondering how to make his dog (Blondi) become a vegetarian as well...and when someone ate dinner with him, he threw disgusting comments about meat-eating to kill everyone's apetite...

In other words: If Hitler still was alive, he'd make an ideal PETA member!

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2003-06-08 04:11am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
PeZook wrote: Yeah, and he was wondering how to make his dog (Blondi) become a vegetarian as well...and when someone ate dinner with him, he threw disgusting comments about meat-eating to kill everyone's apetite...
In other words: If Hitler still was alive, he'd make an ideal PETA member!

If they could stand his constant dinner table tirades (he could talk about total CRAP for hours on end).

Anybody heard Hitler's theory about dogs and humans living in airless space, before Earth got an atmosphere?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-08 05:09am

PeZook wrote:
Anybody heard Hitler's theory about dogs and humans living in airless space, before Earth got an atmosphere?

.... no.

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