Battle of Naboo Refight Question

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Drooling Iguana wrote:
Ingersoll wrote:just a big fucking lightsaber :lol:
Watch it, or the EU authors will end up using that as their next Superweapon Of The Week.

Come to think of it, that would be pretty cool.
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Oops, I should have attached a smily.
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1. Sith do not solely rely on their lightsabers to stop energy attacks. For example, Darth Vader used his hand in ESB to deflect Han Solo's blaster fire. While Darth Maul has probably not perfected this technique, as Vader had, he probably has some ability to do the same. In I, Jedi, it is shown that even Jedi apprentices can absorb substantial amounts of energy in the form of heat and then release it later (it should be noted that although Corran Horn was especially gifted in this technique, he was not the only one to use it).
2. Maul's force abilities were never demonstrated to their fullest extent in TPM, but in Shadow Hunter he is shown to be substantially more powerful. Maul can easily defeat a dozen or so people, he killed two Jedi outright (one of them a powerful and gifted apprentice, but still...), and was shown to be able to quickly decimate a large group of mercenaries.

I thus conclude that Darth Maul would probably be able to defeat twenty or so UFP security personnel, using his stealth abilities to pick off a few of them at a time before moving in to finish off the last remaining officers.
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What about Force Pull? Darth Vader easily pulled a blaster out of Han's hand. A weapon with a trigger guard and would take a quite a bit of force to causually yank from his hands. The Feds on the other hand, have their little remote control phasers that would slip out of their hands like a greased piggy. Darth could probably send them flying against the wall with a wave before they even have a chance to fire at him.
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Re: Battle of Naboo Refight Question

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Green Knight wrote:However, I was reading the Battle for Naboo one and this part stuck out at me.
It goes without saying that Darth Maul would easily slaughter any two (or twenty) commandoes in the Federation, regardless of who they are.

Jedi/Sith with lightsabers can parry energy blasts. No problem. However, Federation weapons fire continuous beams of energy, rather than individual balls of energy, like Star Wars guns. Darth Maul can parry them, yes, but the question is, can he parry more than one (Or rather, more than two, what with his double-bladed lightsaber)?
We know from AOTC that Jedi (and, by association, Sith) have limits. Throw enough shots at them and they simply can't keep up, hence the defeat of the Jedi in the Arena by Dooku's droids.

Your question is basically how many Federation soldiers it would take to overwhelm Darth Maul. I'd say quite a few.

Remember that Jedi can not only deflect blaster bolts, they can aim the deflected bolt at targets of their choosing. A continuous phaser beam aimed at Darth Maul is likely to be reflected back so that it sweeps across the Federation troops attacking him; he might easily get more than one by reflecting a sustained shot, whereas he could only take out one with a reflected pulse.

He also won't sit still when attacked. The Force will help him dodge as well as parry, and he doesn't have to worry about accidentally taking out an ally. He can jump right into the midst of the Federation troops, where they have to worry about hitting each other with their phaser shots while everything within his reach is a valid target.

Against adversaries with no Force skills of their own, he can also use his telekinetic abilities to full effect. Unlike a Jedi, he has no compunctions about using his powers to kill living beings. He can simply move out of the line of fire and hurl crates at his opponents.

No two Federation officers have the means to defeat Darth Maul. Indeed, Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan seemed sure that Amidala's entire guard force in the hangar wouldn't be much good against him.
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IIRC Maul actually took pride in being able to chose where he deflected the shots back too.

Also IIRC in Truce At Bakura the fluties used a continuious beam stunner, the paddle beamer. Luke was able to deflect it though it suprised him.

Maul isn't gonna stand there and be shot at however. Before the fedies have even raised their weapons he's activated their safety switches with the force causing an overload in the weapons that kills all the redshirts instantly.
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I think that the AOTC and TPM are have enough evidence to prove that maul could handle 20 feds with phasers. In TPM why didn't Qui-gon allow padame and the rest of her troop fire away a Maul... he was only about 15 feet away from them. Probably because he knew that if they fired he would of killed most of them, crippling their chances to get to the Gunray. Do you think that any of them would of survived if Qui-gon and Obi-wan weren't there. Maul would of killed all of them. In AOTC look how out numbered the jedi were in the the arena. That was easliy about a 20:1 ratio if not more and not all of them died. Even in the end the when they were completely surrounded they managed to stay alive. And what about the war. There was one jedi per clone trooper squad going head on into the battle and there was even more in coming fire in that battle then then there was in the arena. All of those jedi returned as far as we know. (actually if some one has more on that part of the movie please feel free to correct me) There was a reason they stuck the jedi in front. Maul vs 20 feds. Im going to got with maul.
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If the Fed troops are all standing around in a big room and Maul just runs out at them like an idiot, massed fire takes him down. Doubt he'd do that though. He'd catch them separated, and/or attack them somewhere that allowed some cover. It wouldn't be hard for him, he'd just have to refrain from fighting like a moron and charging twenty armed men on open ground.
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A phaser beam would be just like a long ass pole of energy (imagine a long skinny lightsaber) and Maul can just nudge it to make it move in another direction.

It would be cool to see Maul spin his double blade like an electric fan or a rotor and blocking multiple phaser shots and reflecting them back at the dudes who blasted him.
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