Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Yeah, but he would not use "likely," nor propose he could even try to override if he had no chance.
Basicly true and thanks for pointing out that "likely".
Possible explanations without hurting the "no jump" approach:
1. It would be true in the case if the possibility of the emergency jumps (the attempt to jump within (or out of?
) the compensation border of the hyperdrive) would have been well tested for all types (and actually for all) hyperdrives, for all possible environments (Do not forget that it was a binary system, so somewhat uncommon, I think.) for all possible distance from that hard line. Testing ALL of these is impossible even if we could consider that that hard line was constant for a planetary object, which we canot. Without full testing everything extreme is only likely.
2. Jumping within the compensation border of the hyperdrive is impossible and will cause more or less damage to the hyperdrive. The level of damage depends on the "uncompensated" gravitational influence. This damage level is hard to pre- determine especially without any calculations.
(Personally I prefer explanation 2)
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An example (to a not-so-smart farmboy from Tatooin):
-I will not run into that massive cement wall because it is impossibble to cross and I will die.
But if you want him to really understand it, you will say:
-I will not run into that massive cement wall. I could do it but likely I would watch my brain flowing out and die.
See? The later does not necesserely mean that it is possible to run through that wall. So, he did not propose, but only mentioned the jumping.]
The point of analyzing the statement is to see whether it is as hard as it is. I also pointed out (earlier) it could be interpreted to the absurdity that no jump would ever be possible because nobody is ever really free of gravity wells. Which is obviously absurd.
Exactly yes. It could be. But why to interpret it in that way if there is an interpretation which is consistent with the other same level quote?
Even the description of the dock is to describe what Luke sees.
And what all others see. Does it mean that it was "all others centered"? Of course not. There was an establishmnet and a personal feeling centered around Luke and a few descriptions. Saying that those two make the whole section (the descriptions) Luke centered, especially since there was the spy who remained undetected by them (not only by Luke) and Luke was mentioned from a "higher level view" ("even to Luke") seems to be a very brave assumption to me.
Ultimately, all I said was that where you see a yes/no hard line, I see a yes/increasing danger/no way zone.
Yes, exactly. I think the difference between our approaches is quite clear for all of us.
Everybody but you seems to see the statement as "soft" rather than "hard."
Yes. However, as you wrote it previously, this does not make it right. My interpretation seems to be closer to the literal statement, and without GL himself it is very hard to determine.
The decision to do a last-ditch maneuver depends on your assessment of your odds. It is a call, and your call may not be the same as the Captain's in charge. They are losing the deflector shield, but obviously Han's counting on the fact they are soon reaching the point they can do it safely anyway. If your deflector shield is going in 10 seconds, but you are also within ten seconds of being able to make a safe jump, you are probably going to wait that ten extra seconds rather than jump with say a 5% chance of mishap.
It is true, again. Except (if I remember well) that in TESB when they got that shield loosing sign, the shield was gone and in ANH (after the shield loosing sign) Han worried about even a close (not direct) hit. Theese suggest that they had no more seconds with shield protection making the situation an emergency requiring an immediate jump.
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