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Can you explain me Creation? You know, I've never seen the theory of creation written down. You know, like, what does it involve, what predictions it makes, how can they be verified and how can they be falsified.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:No I don't. Of the two theories for life on earth (Creation and evolution) one is right (or closer to being right) and the other is not.
Interesting. You claim to have evidence for creation, but you seem reluctant to represent your so-called "evidence."1SuprJesusFreak wrote: There is however scientific evidence for Creation.
Ofcourse it can, that's why it is empirically unfalsifiable and untestable and thus falls outside the domain of science.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:Creation can explain everything.
It's against the law to teach Creationism in public schools in a number of districts and it's also unconstitutional for a state or school district to mandate the teaching of Creationism (the recent nonsense in Ohio about intelligent design, if it isn't revised, is due for a good, hard judicial smackdown when the usual coalition of scientifically-minded people challenge it). There are still probably public schools where it's taught by individual teachers and winked at by the administration, but it's pretty much got to be off the record.JodoForce wrote:So do they have science teachers teaching creationism in public schools?
I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares. This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system. Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'd love to see this "evidence". Ah -- coffee, bagel and the promise of pseudoscientific antics from a gibbering fool. The Breakfast of Champions.
You seem far more preoccupied to blow holes in evolution rather then find evidence for creation. You understand that you even if you find conclusive proof that evolution doesn't happen you are not a step closer to prove creationism, do you?1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares. This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system. Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Do you even comprehend what dinosaurs and humans living together entails? Try watching Jurassic Park. Think about how well humans would do without any modern technology. Those Raptors are a real bitch.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares. This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system. Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'd love to see this "evidence". Ah -- coffee, bagel and the promise of pseudoscientific antics from a gibbering fool. The Breakfast of Champions.
Then show the evidence you do have a "rock solid" defense for. Show any evidence at all and simply add more once you've sealed it.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares. This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system. Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'd love to see this "evidence". Ah -- coffee, bagel and the promise of pseudoscientific antics from a gibbering fool. The Breakfast of Champions.
If those are the best arguments you can produce, no wonder you're not prepared to show your evidence. Giant serpents and other mythical animals are common in legends throughout the ancient world, so there's nothing to tie pictures on ancient pots to dinosaurs. The theory of evolution can easily explain bombardier beetles and giraffes, so you'd best leave that argument behind, too.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares. This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system. Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.
Hahahaha. I hope you're not talking about the Peruvian Ica Stones. At best it's inconclusive. At worst they are frauds, like some of them have already been found to be.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'd love to see this "evidence". Ah -- coffee, bagel and the promise of pseudoscientific antics from a gibbering fool. The Breakfast of Champions.
Even if it was true, that only means that some dinosaurs were alive with humans.This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system.
Seriously, you even research evolution or did you just read Creationism for Morons?Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.
I know of many paintings from ancient Greece that show things like creatures that are half man and half horse. I guess they existed too.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:Some of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares. This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system.
Your limited knowledge displays nothing but your limited knowledge. Tell me, can you explain how lightening works, because if not then it must be devine intervention. How about thunder, is that God clapping his hands?Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.
Some modern species, such as Monitor Lizards and Crocodiles, could easily be artistically interpreted as dinosaurs.neoolong wrote:Hahahaha. I hope you're not talking about the Peruvian Ica Stones. At best it's inconclusive. At worst they are frauds, like some of them have already been found to be.1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'd love to see this "evidence". Ah -- coffee, bagel and the promise of pseudoscientific antics from a gibbering fool. The Breakfast of Champions.
Fuck, even if they were real, the damn things are pretty stylized and open to interpretation. Besides considering the extra parts and scale differences, they don't even look that much like dinosaurs, especially for people that should have been intimately familiar with them.
Even if it was true, that only means that some dinosaurs were alive with humans.This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system.
My impression is that he's been watching a lot of "Dr. Dino" tapes with a pen, a notepad and a lotion-stained box of Kleenexes.Fucking Jebus man, are you that much of an idiot or did you not decide to look at any evolutionary texts before you wrote your "paper?"
Would it be that hard to learn how to at least spell 'dinosaur' right?1SuprJesusFreak wrote:I am not yet prepared to show all the evidence as this is still some I have not rock solid defence for. So of the evidence would be Sumarian (sp) pottery depicting dinosares.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'd love to see this "evidence". Ah -- coffee, bagel and the promise of pseudoscientific antics from a gibbering fool. The Breakfast of Champions.
Carbon Dating isn't used for fossils, since fossils tend to be mineralized, having much of their minerals replaced. And even then, we're hard-pressed to get to to work over 20k years.This would lead one to believe that dinos and humans lived at the same time blowing a rather large hole in the carbon dating system.
The TalkOrigins.Org page for Bombardier Beetles has already been posted, but to get the main point across :Other evidence are creators evolution cannot explain such as the Bombadar (sp) beetle and the giraffe.
Last thread hijack. I'll do you one better and declare that Bruce Almighty proves that God exists, and that he is Morgan Freeman.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'll do you one better; I hereby declare that the Indiana Jones films prove that the Ark does in fact exist, and will cause your face to fall off.innerbrat wrote:I hereby declare that Jurassic Park is evidence that dinsoaurs and humans lived together during the last century...
One better still, I hereby that the Mars Attacks film prove that the world's monuments were all destroyed.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'll do you one better; I hereby declare that the Indiana Jones films prove that the Ark does in fact exist, and will cause your face to fall off.innerbrat wrote:I hereby declare that Jurassic Park is evidence that dinsoaurs and humans lived together during the last century...
