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1SuprJesusFreak wrote:Funny, guys. Be the way Yuri, I'm 16.
Go play with your Apostolic G.I. Joes, kid.
All of those thinks could have been and have been explained (duh).
Could have been and have been. That does it -- this kid is trapped between parallel universes.
But you will never (if you do I give you full rights to kill me if I'm still living and do whatever you want with the body) find a scientific answer for the very first living thing. You will never learn where that first spark of life came from without looking to the Bible.
So what you're saying is that if science can't explain it right now, science never will explain it, and we should all go running back to the intellectual cave. Fuck you, you brainless, arrogant twat.
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1SuprJesusFreak:

You will never find a scientific answer for the very first living thing. God did it.
Oh shit! You actually made that statement.

That's why you won't ever be a "Great Mind'. Probably not even an 'adequate' one either.
The most basic assumption about the world is that it does not contradict itself.
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1SuprJesusFreak wrote:Funny, guys. Be the way Yuri, I'm 16.
Go play with your Apostolic G.I. Joes, kid.
All of those thinks could have been and have been explained (duh).
Could have been and have been. That does it -- this kid is trapped between parallel universes.
But you will never (if you do I give you full rights to kill me if I'm still living and do whatever you want with the body) find a scientific answer for the very first living thing. You will never learn where that first spark of life came from without looking to the Bible.
So what you're saying is that if science can't explain it right now, science never will explain it, and we should all go running back to the intellectual cave. Fuck you, you brainless, arrogant twat.
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You know, you aren't making your case by calling names at him.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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course not.

he's making his case *and* calling names.
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Enforcer Talen wrote:course not.

he's making his case *and* calling names.
The Point is, it might discredit him a bit.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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why? the argument is still there.
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Enforcer Talen wrote:why? the argument is still there.
Because it isn't moral. Look at the Forum title. :P
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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we could always debate it. 8) :lol:
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Enforcer Talen wrote:we could always debate it. 8) :lol:
Smartass.

(yes, that was intentional)
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:This isn't somebody's funny idea of a troll drill is it? Let's review the facts shall we?
No, sadly this is real. He is our nemisis from another forum and routinely makes these kinds of claims.
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Is he ever going to get around to posting actual evidence IN FAVOR of creationism, or should I just ignore these threads from now on?
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He will...eventually.
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Then again he never tried to refute what Mike said about his "excerpt."
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Lonestar wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:why? the argument is still there.
Because it isn't moral. Look at the Forum title. :P
I'm not engaging in this debate to be moral. I'm engaging in this debate in order to make points, and what I may lose in credibility by insulting the opposition, I feel it will be compensated for by the validity of the points I make.

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If he was a great genius then we would all be dead because we were too stupid too live.
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Captain Lennox wrote:If he was a great genius then we would all be dead because we were too stupid too love.
:wtf: I genuinely and for the first time have no idea what you just said, Captain Lennox.
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I edited it it you twit. One cannot insult me. :P Not my fault my typing sucks..
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1SuprJesusFreak wrote:Funny, guys. Be the way Yuri, I'm 16. All of those thinks could have been and have been explained (duh). But you will never (if you do I give you full rights to kill me if I'm still living and do whatever you want with the body) find a scientific answer for the very first living thing. You will never learn where that first spark of life came from without looking to the Bible.
But isnt God the first living thing? Where did his "spark of life" come from??? Thats not in the Bible.
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Nope, if he was a great genius everyone in the world would be a rocket scientist and we would be colonizing the Andromeda galaxy now :roll:
Supa Stupid Jesus Freak wrote: But you will never (if you do I give you full rights to kill me if I'm still living and do whatever you want with the body) find a scientific answer for the very first living thing.
Great! So Alyrium Denryle gets to rip the him to little bits (with a chainsaw if you will or a butter knife if you're feeling cruel :P ), set the pieces on fire then urinate on the ashes. :twisted:

Since the scientific answer is already here... alert AD, tell him to start making the dish--'reinforced shredded burnt urinated Matt salad' :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Get your fill of of sci-fi, science, and mockery of stupid people
I guess I'm too nice then. I usually refrain from Mocking stupid ill-concieved ideas in front of someone. I prefer tearing apart their arguments with "logic" and "East Side Bloods!" blasting thier house.

The second part, by the way, is mostly reserved for Aryan Nation types.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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Lonestar wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Get your fill of of sci-fi, science, and mockery of stupid people
I guess I'm too nice then. I usually refrain from Mocking stupid ill-concieved ideas in front of someone. I prefer tearing apart their arguments with "logic" and "East Side Bloods!" blasting thier house.

The second part, by the way, is mostly reserved for Aryan Nation types.
:shock: I like to use logic and ripping, bleach-dipped insults... "East-Side Bloods"...? I've never thought of using a drive-by as a debate tactic... :shock:
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