Alright, please tell me this isn't true

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-06-12 12:00pm

I just heard from a friend that "Enterprise" has featured the borg in it, is this true?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-12 12:18pm

IT HAS. The episode is called "Regeneration."

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-06-12 12:18pm

Yepp. "Regeneration" was the name of the episode.

TurboPhaser · Post by **TurboPhaser** » 2003-06-12 12:29pm

The idea of the Borg on ENt isnt all that ridiculous, but it still shouldnt have happened.

ENT must stand on its own 2 feet in order to survive.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-06-12 12:38pm

They handled them well enough. It could've been worse, much worse.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-06-12 12:40pm

::shivers::

What, might I ask, happened in the episode?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-06-12 01:08pm

Straha wrote:::shivers::

What, might I ask, happened in the episode?

It filled in a couple questions left from the TNG Q-Who episode and explains further questions raised in Voyager. This ENT episode actualy fit into the continuity perfectly and explained things we know happened later.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-06-12 03:02pm

Alyeska wrote:
Straha wrote:::shivers::

What, might I ask, happened in the episode?
It filled in a couple questions left from the TNG Q-Who episode and explains further questions raised in Voyager. This ENT episode actualy fit into the continuity perfectly and explained things we know happened later.

It fitted in with continunuity!

Have B&B been fired?

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-06-12 03:07pm

Straha wrote:::shivers::

What, might I ask, happened in the episode?

You can download the episode from somewhere like KaZaA.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-06-12 03:29pm

Yeah, fit with continuuty. Giant chunks of the Borg Sphere survived along with drones and were ignored by everyone, including the E-E.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-06-12 03:32pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Yeah, fit with continuuty. Giant chunks of the Borg Sphere survived along with drones and were ignored by everyone, including the E-E.

That's my criticism of it, also. The section of the sphere we saw was sticking a hundred feet in the air out of the ice, and was recognisable as a partial sphere.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-06-12 04:00pm

The E-E had terrible sensors at that time. They didn't even detect the Sphere until it was spotted on the viewer itself. The ship was then being taken over by the Borg and its entirely possible that the crew never had a chance to make a proper sensor sweep. Once the Vulcans showed up they had to be even more careful.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-06-12 04:49pm

Point to the Ambassador

However:
Why didn't the Vulcan's detect it the crashed sphere?

Where the drone's 'offline'?

Why didn't those drone's later try to assimilate Earth? With E-E gone, Earth would have been a rip target for even 1 drone near a small town...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-06-12 04:56pm

Solauren wrote:Why didn't those drone's later try to assimilate Earth? With E-E gone, Earth would have been a rip target for even 1 drone near a small town...

Maybe not. According to Enterprise, many of those peaceful townspeople are armed with plasma shot-guns, and such.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-06-12 05:12pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Solauren wrote:Why didn't those drone's later try to assimilate Earth? With E-E gone, Earth would have been a rip target for even 1 drone near a small town...
Maybe not. According to Enterprise, many of those peaceful townspeople are armed with plasma shot-guns, and such.

::Can't get the idea of a Borg being chased down by a hill-billy with a shot-gun out of his head::

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-06-12 05:14pm

Straha wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
Solauren wrote:Why didn't those drone's later try to assimilate Earth? With E-E gone, Earth would have been a rip target for even 1 drone near a small town...
Maybe not. According to Enterprise, many of those peaceful townspeople are armed with plasma shot-guns, and such.
::Can't get the idea of a Borg being chased down by a hill-billy with a shot-gun out of his head::

Actually, you could probably make a really good spoof of "Night of the Living Dead" by using Borg drones in the place of zombies.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-06-12 05:17pm

I had a nightmare last night the Borg were attacking Earth. Even with all my SD.net Borg knowledge, it was still pretty fucking scary, especially when they came into my house.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-12 06:50pm

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! AN ENTERPRISE EPISODE WITH CONTINUITY!!!!

I had to have problems somewhere. I bet that the crew learned all about the Borg, and how to stop them, and told Starfleet command and what not.

And then, over the next century, everyone forgot about them.

According to Bitch & Bastard anyway.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-12 07:00pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:
Straha wrote:::shivers::

What, might I ask, happened in the episode?
You can download the episode from somewhere like KaZaA.

Or just read the review on EAS. That's how I keep track with ENT...

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-06-12 08:06pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Embracer Of Darkness wrote: You can download the episode from somewhere like KaZaA.
Or just read the review on EAS. That's how I keep track with ENT...

True, but in a review, you don't get to see Archer kill a Borg drone by tearing the cables out of it's head. I think it's about time someone had the common sense to try that, and I think it's worth seeing.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-12 08:14pm

I thought it was funny how Archer said that the Borg "adapted" when their phase pistols stopped working against them. They adapted, eh? That is a pretty astute observation, Archer. He could have looked surprised, tried again and said, "it appears that they have erected some sort of force field" Instead, he just said they "adapted." OK...

Also, the Borg did not introduce themselves. They just said, "resistance is futile, you will be assimilated." Why didn't they introduce themselves? They had no reason to conceal their identities. The only reason is because the Borg should NOT be in the Enterprise timeline, and the writers needed to cover their stupid idea to put them there.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-12 08:20pm

And just for the record, I don't think this episode fit in with Star Trek continuity at all. The only way we can reconcile this notion is to consider that Enterprise takes place on a different timeline. Since the Borg sphere wreckage was recovered, we have to assume that history has/is changing from the normal Trek timeline.

There is no continuity at all with the Borg. Consider when we first saw them in "Q Who." They might as well be a totally different race. Thanks to the idea of a Queen, Voyager's pussification of them, and now Borg in the 22nd century, we might as well just have Archer go to the Delta quandrant and kill all of them.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-12 08:26pm

Superman wrote:And just for the record, I don't think this episode fit in with Star Trek continuity at all. The only way we can reconcile this notion is to consider that Enterprise takes place on a different timeline. Since the Borg sphere wreckage was recovered, we have to assume that history has/is changing from the normal Trek timeline.

There is no continuity at all with the Borg. Consider when we first saw them in "Q Who." They might as well be a totally different race. Thanks to the idea of a Queen, Voyager's pussification of them, and now Borg in the 22nd century, we might as well just have Archer go to the Delta quandrant and kill all of them.

Next week, on UPN: An Enterprise Event.

<An image of unimatrix 1 exploding.>

Next week, an Enterprise Event.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-12 08:29pm

hehehe

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-06-12 08:47pm

YT300000 wrote:HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! AN ENTERPRISE EPISODE WITH CONTINUITY!!!!

I had to have problems somewhere. I bet that the crew learned all about the Borg, and how to stop them, and told Starfleet command and what not.

And then, over the next century, everyone forgot about them.

According to Bitch & Bastard anyway.

B&B didn't write this episode. Furthermore this episode explains why the Hansons had UFP authorization to search for the Borg and the E-D didn't know of the Borg. The information on the subject was highly classified.