Has Wong [i]ever[/i] been defeated?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-09-15 04:22pm

My question is this: Has our lord ever been defeated? Has he ever, in his entire 30-something existance, suffered a Smackdown? Has anyone, ever, online or off, proven him wrong?

Or he is well and truly infallible?

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-15 04:24pm

Well he's smart enough to know when a position is undefendable, so.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-09-15 04:24pm

I'd imagine he's gotten it from Lady Wong at least once.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-09-15 04:28pm

Probally one or two teachers at college. Besides that..
NO WAY! NO ONE CAN DEFEAT LORD WONG!!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-09-15 04:47pm

*bumpy*

I'm waiting for Lord Wong to come and gift us with a few anecdotes.

-crosses fingers-

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-09-15 04:51pm

It depends on what you mean by "defeated." To my knowledge, he has never been defeated in a full scale debate, partly because he consistently chooses sides that have large advantages, but also because of his excellent debating skills and intelligence. I have seen Mike concede some points, so if that's what you mean by "defeated," then yes, he has been beaten in the past. In that particular thread, IIRC, he got into a debate on B5 and culture, so it really had nothing to do with his strong points of SW, ST, science, and religion. No one is infallible. I am sure that he has been wrong sometimes in RL, too.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-15 05:05pm

WONG IS INFALLABLE! MWHAHAHAHA!

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-09-15 05:44pm

No one is infallible. The Dark Lord doesn't know everything.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-09-15 05:45pm

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=35631

EDIT: Deathbringer has oppressed the thread after 4 posts.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-15 05:46pm

I've made mistakes before, as everyone has. But in the particular cases of Star Wars' military superiority over Star Trek or the inherent superiority of evolution theory over the idiot religio-masturbatory fantasy that is "creation theory", I have taken a position which is so strong that I would have to be downright incompetent to be forced to concede a point on anything more than insignificant peripheral issues or ambiguities.

PS. Keep in mind, however, that I'm older and wiser than many of my opponents, not to mention better-educated, which gives me several advantages. I was pretty arrogant and ignorant when I was 16 years old too.

PPS. #1 rule to doing well in a debate: choose a good location to set up your defensive perimeter. Make sure you know exactly what your position is, and do not let your opponent draw you out of your strongpoint (some people are very good at trying to draw you off-topic or trick you into defending arguments which are favourable for your "side" but which you never actually made).

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-09-15 05:47pm

Well, that's good advice...but...no stories?

-sniff-

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-15 05:47pm

Sigh...I can see it's time once again to purge SB.com

sugardady in particular is so kriffing dead.....

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-15 05:53pm

RayCav of ASVS wrote:Sigh...I can see it's time once again to purge SB.com

sugardady in particular is so kriffing dead.....

Their powers of humor is more defunct than the Ubiqtorates in this thread:
http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=35432

I mean JEEZUS, aren't people supposed to be capable of some rational and objective reasoning, anyone could see that wasa joke from 40 light seconds away.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-09-15 06:10pm

His Divine Shadow wrote: Their powers of humor is more defunct than the Ubiqtorates in this thread:
http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=35432

I mean JEEZUS, aren't people supposed to be capable of some rational and objective reasoning, anyone could see that wasa joke from 40 light seconds away.

It's really no different from the nitwits here who actually thought the cult of the connie was serious.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-15 06:17pm

Enlightenment wrote:It's really no different from the nitwits here who actually thought the cult of the connie was serious.

Hahahaha, you have not met some certain people yet I see...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-15 06:19pm

Mind you, it's dangerous to question peoples' sense of humour in the bizarre little community of sci-fi debaters. Any time someone gets serious about any debate involving sci-fi universes, I think 90% of the general population will think that he has no sense of humour.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-15 07:22pm

But I thought I was living proof aginst that sort of thing Wong?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-09-15 07:32pm

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=35631

"The latest SD.net bull: Wong is infallible"

"Of course, you notice that every arguement he gets in no matter how it goes they declare victory for him.... even when it turns into him flaming the other person until they leave.

And there is that time I e-mailed him to begin something and he did the childish little "I declare victory before it's even started" bit and refused to respond to me further."

"And people call OUR boards a cesspool. SD.net is a warsie circle-jerk,"

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-15 07:38pm

And big shock: Manji started the thread

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-09-15 07:42pm

Christ after reading his 'military engineering' threads I thought he could go no lower.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-09-15 08:13pm

Cyril wrote:Christ after reading his 'military engineering' threads I thought he could go no lower.

Who else could come up with a design for an utterly undestroyable ship that would get smashed to pieces by wave action the moment it hit the water.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-09-15 08:14pm

Manji's a dork.

Yes, I realize the irony of my saying that.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-09-15 08:52pm

Why is Manji dissing Mike? He wasn't the one that make fun of his mile-long blimp.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-09-15 09:13pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Why is Manji dissing Mike? He wasn't the one that make fun of his mile-long blimp.

I think that was me.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-09-15 09:41pm

Mile-long blimp?

Oh, THAT one.

Concept was good, execution was blechhhh.