Trek Hand Weapons Vs. The Vong?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-29 09:06pm

Before you laugh, let's look at this

From the point of TOS disruptors worked by "Shorting out the Energy in the subject be it robot or humaniod (Basically electrocuting you with our own central nervous system).

Phasors are very good at converting weak materials like coral, and flesh, in a nice "Chain Reaction."

However both are limited range, and can't penetrate very dense metals.

So could ST weapons be better against the Vong?

Particularly having thoughts about some Vong Warleader "Twitching To Death" as all the TOS Klingon or Romulon disruptor would do would be to "Taser" all of his armour, implants & Weapons.....

Wild Karrde · Post by **Wild Karrde** » 2003-05-29 09:37pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Before you laugh, let's look at this

From the point of TOS disruptors worked by "Shorting out the Energy in the subject be it robot or humaniod (Basically electrocuting you with our own central nervous system).

Phasors are very good at converting weak materials like coral, and flesh, in a nice "Chain Reaction."

However both are limited range, and can't penetrate very dense metals.

So could ST weapons be better against the Vong?

Particularly having thoughts about some Vong Warleader "Twitching To Death" as all the TOS Klingon or Romulon disruptor would do would be to "Taser" all of his armour, implants & Weapons.....

Yeah but Vong armour and those staff weapons they use (the name escapes me at the moment) create their own forcefields which is the reason their able to resist lightsabres and blaster bolts somewhat.

It's a possible that this may cancel out effects from the phasers and disruptors.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-05-29 09:43pm

Well, yorik coral (the stuff coralskippers are made of) can take hits fighter-grade weaponry, which says a lot about its ability to absorb energy. It's probably fairly dense, which would pose some problems for Trek weapons.

The vonduun crab armor and amphistaff, natural enemies of each other, both evolved the ability to create an energy field around themselves as protection. This field can stop blaster shots and lightsabre attacks, so I'm thinking that Trek weapons will only be partially effective at best.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-30 12:16am

They didn;t evolve that way, the Vong modified them.

For a sense on the strength of Yorrik Coral, a dome built on Coruscant with some basice Vong shielding was suppossed to be able to survive the destruction of the planet. Without shielding, it was possible it would survive, but was not garunteed.

While Yorrik coral lacks the energy dispusring qualities that Quadantium Steel has, and it's strenght is source dependent, it is not necessarily weaker.

meNNis · Post by **meNNis** » 2003-05-30 11:10am

*snip*

Ender wrote:They didn;t evolve that way, the Vong modified them.

Actually, they did. I suggest you read Traitor. They evolved this way naturally, the only thing the Vong did was tame / domesticate them over time.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-30 07:09pm

meNNis wrote:*snip*
Ender wrote:They didn;t evolve that way, the Vong modified them.

Actually, they did. I suggest you read Traitor. They evolved this way naturally, the only thing the Vong did was tame / domesticate them over time.

Actually they didn't. I suggst you infest in some reading skills becasue the post you snipped that from also contained more information from traitor showing I had indeed read it. There is nothing like that in Traitor. It said they were natural predators of each other. It says nothing that they evolved the ability to project MJ resistant forcefields from their bodies, and it seems clear that like other things that is a Vong modification.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-05-30 07:23pm

Infest in some reading skills...

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-30 07:42pm

fucking typos

Admiral_K · Post by **Admiral_K** » 2003-05-30 08:13pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the only real defense Vong ships have against tlasers and proton torps are the dovin basils absorbing incoming fire. I imagine it is possible it could do the same with phasers, but their ability to react with the multiple firing angles of fed ships is in question. It would indeed be interesting to see how NDF or disruptors would react with vong materials.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-05-31 12:10am

I'm just curious as to how well they'd be able to take damage from that shoulder-mounted weapon Worf used in Insurrection against the Son'a. That did a fair ammount of damage to the rock when it hit, and knocked out that small group.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-05-31 01:05am

Probably kill them. Heavy blasters can penetrate it by SbS, I would assume the equivlent to a bazooka could

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-06-16 10:25pm

Admiral_K wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the only real defense Vong ships have against tlasers and proton torps are the dovin basils absorbing incoming fire. I imagine it is possible it could do the same with phasers, but their ability to react with the multiple firing angles of fed ships is in question. It would indeed be interesting to see how NDF or disruptors would react with vong materials.

Well, I DO remember that 'splinter shots' (very weak powered rapid fire shots) don't do much at all against the coralskippers. However, I think you're correct in that full power torps and fighter-grade TurboLasers will easily destroy a coralskipper, and the coralskipper just blocks the shots with the dovin basals.

Drach · Post by **Drach** » 2003-06-17 12:26am

The stutter shots are what they came up with to DEFEAT the basels, since they were living creatures it wore them out to have to stop so many shots. Full power shots were more easily handled since there were not as many

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2003-06-24 05:15pm

Well, back to the main point

since disruptors mess up the nervous system of a person and the vong seem resistant to that sort of attack(one of the NJO books where some prisioners get stunned but soon recover) disruptors would probably do little to a vong without much armour.
Also i dont think that yorrik coral has a nervous system

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-24 06:41pm

Darth Mall wrote:Well, back to the main point

since disruptors mess up the nervous system of a person and the vong seem resistant to that sort of attack(one of the NJO books where some prisioners get stunned but soon recover) disruptors would probably do little to a vong without much armour.
Also i dont think that yorrik coral has a nervous system

Disruptors vape a person. IIRC they have no stun setting.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-06-24 06:52pm

Psst, that's an Star Wars disruptor.

A Star Trek disruptor has multiple settings (i.e
Klingon: Mortally wound them for fun torturing them, kill, kill quickly)
Otherwise, walking around with 'lethal' only weapons on board a ship or such might be a problem

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-24 06:56pm

Solauren wrote:Psst, that's an Star Wars disruptor.

A Star Trek disruptor has multiple settings (i.e
Klingon: Mortally wound them for fun torturing them, kill, kill quickly)
Otherwise, walking around with 'lethal' only weapons on board a ship or such might be a problem

Doh!! Oh well. ST disruptors don't have stun setting either.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-24 06:57pm

Or maybe they do. I don't remember.

My memory is slipping.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-06-25 02:04am

Not intentionaly. a glancing hit will knock you out and do severe nerve damage requiring a neural regenerator treatment. Klingons and Romulons usually don't take prisoners.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-06-25 03:06pm

Ender wrote:They didn;t evolve that way, the Vong modified them.

For a sense on the strength of Yorrik Coral, a dome built on Coruscant with some basice Vong shielding was suppossed to be able to survive the destruction of the planet. Without shielding, it was possible it would survive, but was not garunteed.

IIRC That wasnt a Vong Construction, it was an Old-Republic one.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-06-25 03:09pm

It should be noted (IIRC Traitor correctly, I did not enjoy the book much) that Vong weapons and shields generate forcefields (As Yoshi said) that work/affect the atomic level (I believe thats the level at which amphistaffs c ut or something like that, I'd have to get the exact quote to be sure but I am not in a mood too.)

Without said forcefields, YV technology is just as soft and squishy I imagine as any other organic tech.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-06-25 03:10pm

I'm pretty sure they do have a stun setting.

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