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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:Don't tell me you haven't experienced the exact same thing. :roll:
When I was in the position of being without a date, I adopted the novel approach of solving the problem by going out and getting one, rather than insulting women on web boards. You have obviously chosen a different path, Mr. Sock Fucker.
Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
You're eight years old, aren't you.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:Don't tell me you haven't experienced the exact same thing. :roll:
When I was in the position of being without a date, I adopted the novel approach of solving the problem by going out and getting one, rather than insulting women on web boards. You have obviously chosen a different path, Mr. Sock Fucker.
Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
So you're celibate or just into yourself?
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EvilGrey wrote:Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
I guess we can add female anatomy to the list of subjects that EvilGrey never learned about. But what can you expect from an inveterate sock fucker ...
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Ghost Rider wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: When I was in the position of being without a date, I adopted the novel approach of solving the problem by going out and getting one, rather than insulting women on web boards. You have obviously chosen a different path, Mr. Sock Fucker.
Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
So you're celibate or just into yourself?
What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
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Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
I guess we can add female anatomy to the list of subjects that EvilGrey never learned about. But what can you expect from an inveterate sock fucker ...
I've seen females naked. I had to hold back from puking. *shudders* :evil:
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EvilGrey wrote:
What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
Nothing logical...you seem to enjoy hearing your own chatter.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
EvilGrey wrote: Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
So you're celibate or just into yourself?
What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
That you're either:

1) Too stupid to live.

2) Prepubescent.

Not even the most homophobic woman would reach the point you reached, without being also 1.
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EvilGrey wrote:What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
I conclude that you must be gay, while simultaneously being a religious homophobe. No wonder you're so fucked up.
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Tell me, Grey...does whatever domination you belong to allow you to drink alcohol?
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Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
I conclude that you must be gay, while simultaneously being a religious homophobe. No wonder you're so fucked up.
Religious homophobe?! WTF?! :shock:
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LadyTevar wrote:Oh, do we? Then I assume that none of your MALE friends have ever gone to the pastor asking the soft-hearted questions of "What happens to those people who haven't heard of Christ, like Pygmys?" "What happens to the Muslims who do good works in the name of Allah?"
Questions regarding the Bible are not stupid. The question you posed is a stupid philosophical question. :D
At the time, I found it a very valid question, obviously one that does not trouble you, but then again, hard-headed men often have hard hearts.
Or sorry, maybe that's my FEMININE side coming through, since you believe I, like Eve, must have a defective knowledge of God and Faith. let me guess, you're from one of the sects that have your women in skirts who never cut their hair either, hmm?
I'd prefer they all die. :D
But then how could you follow God's orders to Be Fruitful, and Multiply? I doubt you would be willing to have the children yourself, even if God gave you that ability.
Tell me, EvilGrey, do you recall the story of Esther? Of Ruth? Do you recall Deborah, the judge of Israel? Or do you read only about the MALE prophets?
Lesbians cannot be prophets. :roll:
Lesbians? That's a strange way to talk of Ruth...
"And Sal-mon begat Bo'oa of Ra'chab; and Bo'oz begat O'bed of Ruth; and o'bed begat Jesse;
And Jesse began David the King;and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of U'ri'as;" Matthew, 1:5-6.

That passage goes on to detail the lineage of Joseph and Mary... So, was Mary a lesbian too?
You sir, are a pthetic man indeed if you believe that the Lord only speaks through men, and that He does not find a woman worthy.
I don't remember saying that, but that's a good idea to adopt as factual. :D
Obviusly you have, since you believe Prophetesses and Heroines of the Bible to be lesbians.. I wonder what your mother, or your Pastor, would think to hear you say this?
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Andrew J. wrote:Tell me, Grey...does whatever domination you belong to allow you to drink alcohol?
I've seen men hit on coats with enough alcohol...but never this delusional.
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Andrew J. wrote:Tell me, Grey...does whatever domination you belong to allow you to drink alcohol?
I belong to the denomination of EvilGreyism. Long live Alien Jesus! :D
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
I conclude that you must be gay, while simultaneously being a religious homophobe. No wonder you're so fucked up.
Religious homophobe?! WTF?! :shock:
You claim that morality comes only from God and you're not a homophobe? Which God do you worship, then?
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[sigh] It seems EvilGrey will no longer make an effort to pretend to debate seriously. This thread should be locked; it is beyond all hope.

I think that also applies to EvilGrey himself, but that's another issue.
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Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: I conclude that you must be gay, while simultaneously being a religious homophobe. No wonder you're so fucked up.
Religious homophobe?! WTF?! :shock:
You claim that morality comes only from God and you're not a homophobe? Which God do you worship, then?
The God at the heart of all lofty religions, who else? :D
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EvilGrey wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
EvilGrey wrote: Now why would I be interested in someone with an open flesh wound between their legs? :? :shock:
So you're celibate or just into yourself?
What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
You're gay... and thus just as much of an abomination in the eyes of the Lord as you claim women are.

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EvilGrey wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:Tell me, Grey...does whatever domination you belong to allow you to drink alcohol?
I belong to the denomination of EvilGreyism. Long live Alien Jesus! :D
Yep...proven once again my cat is smarter then some people.

And this one is an attention butt-whore because his hand isn't giving him enough.
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Kuroneko wrote:[sigh] It seems EvilGrey will no longer make an effort to pretend to debate seriously. This thread should be locked; it is beyond all hope.

I think that also applies to EvilGrey himself, but that's another issue.
What's that, you can't handle highbrow discussion and want to ensure it never appears again on this BBS? :x
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LadyTevar wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote: So you're celibate or just into yourself?
What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
You're gay... and thus just as much of an abomination in the eyes of the Lord as you claim women are.

(with apologies to Ein and friends)
God thinks I'm an abomination? :(
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EvilGrey wrote:
Kuroneko wrote:[sigh] It seems EvilGrey will no longer make an effort to pretend to debate seriously. This thread should be locked; it is beyond all hope.

I think that also applies to EvilGrey himself, but that's another issue.
What's that, you can't handle highbrow discussion and want to ensure it never appears again on this BBS? :x
Stop looking in the mirror when you type such things...also it helps to read.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Kuroneko wrote:[sigh] It seems EvilGrey will no longer make an effort to pretend to debate seriously. This thread should be locked; it is beyond all hope.

I think that also applies to EvilGrey himself, but that's another issue.
What's that, you can't handle highbrow discussion and want to ensure it never appears again on this BBS? :x
You stating your position is right and being unable to back it up is not 'highbrow discussion'. This flamefest is more intellectually taxing than any of your arguments.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:What is the logical conclusion one could derive from my comments? :D
I conclude that you must be gay, while simultaneously being a religious homophobe. No wonder you're so fucked up.
Religious homophobe?! WTF?! :shock:
It means that you're gay, but because of your religious beliefs you can't/won't admit the truth, and therefore hate yourself and everyone around you because you force yourself to meet your Church's standards.
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SirNitram wrote:
EvilGrey wrote:
Kuroneko wrote:[sigh] It seems EvilGrey will no longer make an effort to pretend to debate seriously. This thread should be locked; it is beyond all hope.

I think that also applies to EvilGrey himself, but that's another issue.
What's that, you can't handle highbrow discussion and want to ensure it never appears again on this BBS? :x
You stating your position is right and being unable to back it up is not 'highbrow discussion'. This flamefest is more intellectually taxing than any of your arguments.
My position is right only because thus far no one here has managed to refute it.
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EvilGrey wrote:
Kuroneko wrote:[sigh] It seems EvilGrey will no longer make an effort to pretend to debate seriously. This thread should be locked; it is beyond all hope.

I think that also applies to EvilGrey himself, but that's another issue.
What's that, you can't handle highbrow discussion and want to ensure it never appears again on this BBS? :x
If this was highbrow, flaming you wouldn't be this easy.
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