Scary school

[Admiral Johnason]

Jerry Fladwell is opening a university that will take in people who have been home schooled all of their lives. That means that a person could go though their entire young life not being exposed to other ideas that controdict those of their extremist views. The only major at this school is political science. Be afraid folks, be afriad.

[Superman]

Oh, for Christ's sake! Real universities were the only chance that these home schoolers had of becoming normal! Like the non accredited Bible schools aren't bad enough.

Well, if I ever become an employer, you can bet that I will never hire anyone from the Fallwell University. I will just have a "screwball" rubber stamp that I will use on resumes of people who graduated from it.

[RedImperator]

I highly doubt a degree from this university will be worth more than a pig's ass.

[Superman]

You're right. Non accredited degrees for all!

[HemlockGrey]

My God...an entire school of communications major!

The humanitY!

[Arrow]

Woohoo! It's a scam! Non-accredited degree = toilet paper.

[Shinova]

Reeks of "brainwashing center".

[jegs2]

Jerry Fladwell is opening a university that will take in people who have been home schooled all of their lives. That means that a person could go though their entire young life not being exposed to other ideas that controdict those of their extremist views. The only major at this school is political science. Be afraid folks, be afriad.

What sort of degree programs would be offered, and would the university be accredited?

[UltraViolence83]

Not a danger. Too silly.

[Joe]

There already is a school like this; Patrick Henry University, methinks.

[Wicked Pilot]

Patriot University, Liberty University, Bob Jones, plus many more.

They already exist.

[Joe]

Patriot University, Liberty University, Bob Jones, plus many more.

They already exist.

The latter two aren't exclusively for homeschooled kids, though...I'm not sure about the first one.

[Wicked Pilot]

The latter two aren't exclusively for homeschooled kids, though...I'm not sure about the first one.

The first one is simply a house that hands out diplomas. Where do you think Hovind got his *snicker* degree.

[Alyrium Denryle]

I will laugh at the person who wastes his money a that 'school' then cant get a job.

[Prince-Admiral Krennel]

There already is a school like this; Patrick Henry University, methinks.

PHC is approx 50% homeschoolers, as far as accredidation goes for PHC......


VIRGINIA STATE AUTHORIZATION
Noting particularly strong student satisfaction, a dedicated and well-qualified faculty, and evident academic rigor, the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia voted on November 20, 2001 to award PHC degree-granting authority for its programs in Government and Classical Liberal Arts. This decision is a significant step in the life of the college and is necessary for receiving regional and national accreditation in the future. The site visit team also noted a deep sense of commitment on all levels (faculty, administration, student) to PHC's mission.


ACCREDITATION
Patrick Henry College is preaccredited by the American Academy for Liberal Education as of November 2, 2002. The Academy is a national accrediting association, recognized by the US Department of Education, and accredits institutions whose academic programs are based upon a core curriculum requiring a rigorous study of the Western Canon. Preaccreditation status is the standard path of official sanction for new institutions.


PHC is committed to holding accreditation from a private accreditor for three reasons: First, Patrick Henry College believes that accreditation communicates a commitment to quality assurance that can be accomplished with no compromise of the College's distinct Christian mission. Second, donors to the College expect the College to become accredited, especially some corporate foundations. Third, the State Council of Higher Education of Virginia requires colleges issuing bachelor of arts degrees to become accredited.


Patrick Henry College is also committed to seeking all appropriate governmental approvals for the College and its programs.


Because neither accreditation nor state approvals require PHC to compromise its religious mission in any way, PHC intends to meet or exceed all standards, in all of its programs and activities, including the structure and implementation of the academic program; the provision of facilities and resources; the selection and retention of faculty, staff, and administration; and the selection of students.

[Prince-Admiral Krennel]

Jerry Fladwell is opening a university that will take in people who have been home schooled all of their lives. That means that a person could go though their entire young life not being exposed to other ideas that controdict those of their extremist views. The only major at this school is political science. Be afraid folks, be afriad.

Care to provide a link? I don't think schools like this would ever be a threat, after all, they have to meet state requirements before they can become accredited.

[Howedar]

Not a danger. Too silly.

Yep. You need to shorten your sig though, IMHO.

[Prince-Admiral Krennel]

Oh, for Christ's sake! Real universities were the only chance that these home schoolers had of becoming normal!

Methinks you'd best STFU since you obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[Superman]

I think I DO know what the fuck I am talking about, and I will say it again. Why don’t YOU shut the fuck up or start giving reasons as to why I am wrong.

[Darth Gojira]

Jerry Fladwell is opening a university that will take in people who have been home schooled all of their lives. That means that a person could go though their entire young life not being exposed to other ideas that controdict those of their extremist views. The only major at this school is political science. Be afraid folks, be afriad.

Care to provide a link? I don't think schools like this would ever be a threat, after all, they have to meet state requirements before they can become accredited.

With dubya in command, I doubt this will be stopped in time. Besides, plenty of scary schools infest the south.

[Prince-Admiral Krennel]

I think I DO know what the fuck I am talking about, and I will say it again. Why don’t YOU shut the fuck up or start giving reasons as to why I am wrong.

I saw no reason to attempt to dispove your bullshit. I'd like to see what your definition of what "normal" is in these circumstances.


From the HSLDA website

The 1996 survey of over 60 colleges and universities in all 50 states conducted by the National Center for Home Education revealed the following anecdotal accounts of home schoolers in college:


A Harvard University (MA) admissions officer said most of their home educated students “have done very well. They usually are very motivated in what they do.” Results of the SAT and SAT II, an essay, an interview, and a letter of recommendation are the main requirements for home educated applicants. “[Transcripts are] irrelevant because a transcript is basically a comparison to other students in the school.”


In addition to Harvard, prominent schools like Yale (CT), Princeton (NJ), Texas A&M, Brown University (RI), the Carnegie Mellon Institute (PA), the Universities of Arizona, Maryland, Virginia, Hawaii and many others all have flexible transcript criteria, accept parental evaluations, and do not require any accreditation or a General Equivalency Diploma (GED). At Kansas State University and others like Lipscomb University and Middlebury College (VT), transcripts are optional.


In 1996, Birmingham-Southern College (AL) had only one home school applicant, but the admissions officer said the college “would be glad to have many more just like him!”


Roughly 50 home schoolers attended the University of Montana. “The home schoolers in this state seem to be up to date and well organized. We even have home schoolers in our honors programs. I know of one student for sure. She is one of our top students,” remarked one admissions official.


Bruce Walker at the University of Delaware said one home educated student who “had an exceptional SAT score was invited to be considered for a full scholarship!”


“Home schooling is becoming more and more prevalent,” said Mark Wheeler of Boise State University (ID). “We’re all trying to work together.”


Pennsylvania State University had 20 home school applicants in 1995, double the previous year. They prefer a portfolio with as much information as possible, including extra curricular activities that demonstrate leadership. “Home schoolers show strongly in that,” said the admissions officer for Penn State.


Lewis and Clark College (OR) has a method of application called the “Portfolio Path” where a student can bypass standardized tests and instead be “reviewed on a myriad of things that would point to, and measure academic performance.” The Universities of Minnesota and Mississippi also look at the all-around abilities demonstrated in a home schooler’s portfolio. University of Kentucky home school applicants “have to provide a portfolio of what they have done throughout their high school years” that is “creative and informative.” A UK admissions officer also said, “Our home schoolers (about 50) tend to be very bright, and have scored very high on standardized tests.”


The Dartmouth College (NH) admissions officer explained, “The applications I’ve come across are outstanding. Home schoolers have a distinct advantage because of the individualized instruction they have received.”


University of Alaska/Fairbanks has had over 300 home educated students in the last few years, several of which were in their honors program. The program director, Mary Dicicco commented, “They have been wonderful students on the whole!”


Staff from Geneva College (PA) and Belhaven College (MS) are actively recruiting home schoolers by going to home school conferences and book fairs to talk to parents and students about admissions.


“Home schoolers have to work harder thereby increasing student productivity,” Jeff Lantis said of the 75-90 home schoolers at Hillsdale College (MI). “Home schoolers are consistently among our top students, in fact home schoolers have won our distinct Honors Program the last three years in a row. We tend to look very favorably upon home schoolers applying to our college.”


USA TODAY reported on October 28, 1996, that the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill’s dean of admissions, James Walters, has enrolled about 20 home educated students, all of which “are performing above average academically.”


A letter sent in 1991 to home school leaders in Massachusetts from Thomas M. Rajala, Director of Admissions at Boston University is another example of the recognition institutions of higher learning are showing home schoolers’ academic achievements:


Boston University welcomes applications from home schooled students. We believe students educated at home possess the passion for knowledge, the independence, and the self-reliance that enable them to excel in our intellectually challenging programs of study.


Wheaton College (IL) Director of Admissions Dan Crabtree says that “Nearly ten percent of our current freshmen were home schooled at one point, and about a dozen were home schooled through high school.” Wheaton’s 1999-2000 freshman class had 104 (out of 550) students who had been home schooled at least one year.


The following comment, made by Jon Reider, Stanford’s senior associate director of admissions concerning the success of home schoolers, was reported in a recent article in the Wall Street Journal: “Home-schoolers bring certain skills – motivation, curiosity, the capacity to be responsible for their education – that high schools don’t induce very well.”3


A report on the accomplishments of home school students has been published in Brown University's (RI) January/February, 2002, edition of its alumni magazine. In an article titled, Homeschooling Comes of Age," Dean Joyce Reed states, "Homeschoolers are the epitome of Brown students. They are self-directed, they take risks, and they don't back off."


In 2002, an employee of Ball State University reported that "eighty percent of first time freshman who were home schooled were admitted to one of our upper levels of admission, with 67% being admitted to Honors College - our highest level of admission. They tend to be very involved socially on campus, especially in groups relating to their academic major and in student religious groups."



Based on this and other information about homeschooled students, colleges and universities seem only to happy to admit them, not based on what the universities think they can mold the students into, but because of the attitude that the students bring with them to the university.


You casually place all homeschooled people into a stereotype which is simply false. Something I would think would not be tolerated here, considering how willing the members here are to defend all other groups ( i.e. homosexuals, races of color etc.) from this kind generalization.

[Superman]

It's about as tolerated here as you automatically telling me to shut the fuck up "because I don't know what I am talking about."

Thanks for the info. I never meant to say that ALL homeschoolers don't socialize.

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

Falwell University- Diplomas also available in two-ply!

I'm imagining it's going to be like Bob Jones University, or Liberty University. I wonder what courses they offer.

[Yuri Prime]

Funny, I always thought there was a difference between a school and a church... It would be funny to see how far they go against people with real degrees from real universities...

[Sobbastchianno]

I, too, wonder about the problems of mixing a very religious education with that of secular skills needed to work in the everyday, many times non-religious life.

I taught Junior High School in the public school system in a small New Hampshire town for five years. I noticed that the very religious of the youth had a very difficult time with concepts taught in physics, part of which covered astronomy, and also with areas of palentology and anthropology covered in Earth Science, second semester.

Carbon Dating techniques make it impossible to believe that the earth is a mere 6 to 7 thousand years old (which is what Biblical Scholars are now estimating). The funniest part was how many of the parents of these students would not allow their child(ren) to participate in sexual education/reproduction classes taught at part of seventh grade biology. The saddest part is, I know for fact these kids were not being given this material at home, and more than a few ended up pregnant by their sophomore year in high school.

No, I don't believe that religious teaching belongs on the University level UNLESS one is studying for the priesthood, ministry, or religious life in general.

On the home schooling front, with a dedicated parent at the helm, yes homeschooling has actually proven a better education than public schooling. A few basic reasons, teacher/student ratio, and the fact that a parent is better able legally to discipline their own children than a school is. You can smart off to a teacher with fewer negative consequences (in general) than if you smart off to your parents. This actually makes sense to me because, even in a public school setting, the more involved a parent was in the life and education of thier child, the more the child was actually able to get out of their education.