What should be done with Ted?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-06-19 08:53am

MKSheppard wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:Ted is certainly less annoying than the asshole-extraordinaire, Enlightenment, who was never banned. I say let him stay but give him a really nasty custom title until he cleans up his shit (which will be never, but one more chance won't hurt).
Bing. Durran hits my opinion square on the fucking head. Enlightenment
was Pure Grade-A dickstain, yet he never was censured for his outlandish
bullfuckery.

Oh shit. *puts on asbestos/nomex suit and charges the EAS Stormbringer's massive weapons arrays*

All Hands to Battle Stations! All Hands to Battle Stations!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-06-19 08:55am

Keep his ass out of this message board.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-06-19 08:57am

MKSheppard wrote: Bing. Durran hits my opinion square on the fucking head. Enlightenment
was Pure Grade-A dickstain, yet he never was censured for his outlandish
bullfuckery.

But, he left on his own. Ted has been talked to by countless people. He kept saying "I'll do better", but he still refuses to think before he speaks.

Shep, while you are annoying and opinionated, at least you don't intentionally piss off long-time members. Members you KNOW will get pissed off.

Show me anything Ted has posted since his last ban that is remotely a decent contribution? I bet you can't find any.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-06-19 09:11am

Darkstar

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-06-19 09:15am

Howedar wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote: Using Sheppard as an example for favoritism is fallacious. Sheppard is no one's favorite, and he managed to offend essentially the same cross section of these "important people" you speak of as Ted. But because his behavior is neither as virulent nor as non-contributive as Ted's, permanent banning has never been discussed for more a few moments. When compliance with the rules was demanded of him, when he was warned about his behavior, MKSheppard has generally heeded these warnings.
I wasn't referring to apparent favoritism WRT Shep. I was referring to the fact that Ted can call the Japanese "nips" and bash gays without apparent penalty, but if he offends the nationality of the mods he gets a temp (or perma) ban. Maybe I'm just suspicious and paranoid, but the timing seemed odd to me.

Well, I am Japanese (although I'm also half-Irish), so technically I should have been offended by both of his statements about equally.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-06-19 09:17am

Master of Ossus wrote: Well, I am Japanese (although I'm also half-Irish), so technically I should have been offended by both of his statements about equally.

Hmm, I habitually refer to the Japanese as Japs...is that racist?

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2003-06-19 09:48am

Ted's recent conduct has made it clear that his only interest in SD.net is stirring up trouble and starting fights. He has long since worn out his welcome, and it's time he is escorted to the exit.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-06-19 10:22am

Kelly Antilles wrote: Show me anything Ted has posted since his last ban that is remotely a decent contribution? I bet you can't find any.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-06-19 10:22am

MKSheppard wrote:Bing. Durran hits my opinion square on the fucking head. Enlightenment was Pure Grade-A dickstain, yet he never was censured for his outlandish bullfuckery.

True, but Enlightenment kept almost all his shit in the Politics forum, and before that in politics related threads. You know his opinions, you know where he stands, and you can guess with 90% accuracy which threads will contain Enlightenment's bullshit. Ted on the other hand is spreading the shit all over every part of the board and he's just going off at everyone.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-06-19 11:06am

BoredShirtless wrote:Ted isn't a troll.

Almost all of these posts are less than one line, and a good proportion are spam anyway. I am not at all impressed by his ability to post one-liners without being an asshole.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-06-19 11:08am

Howedar wrote:I wasn't referring to apparent favoritism WRT Shep. I was referring to the fact that Ted can call the Japanese "nips" and bash gays without apparent penalty, but if he offends the nationality of the mods he gets a temp (or perma) ban. Maybe I'm just suspicious and paranoid, but the timing seemed odd to me.

It was a cumulative effect. We don't have hair triggers, so it took several incidents to rate a temp ban.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-06-19 11:15am

I'm going with the general sentiment and vote perm ban. Besides, I've heard he flames gays/lesbians/bi.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-06-19 12:10pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:Ted isn't a troll.
Almost all of these posts are less than one line,

So? Why does post length factor into a decision to ban someone? Should we all start posting to a fixed minimum word length?

Pablo Sanchez wrote: and a good proportion are spam anyway.

Yeah but when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In other words, his spam was surronded by other peoples spam. However when people where on topic, he was too.

Pablo Sanchez wrote: I am not at all impressed by his ability to post one-liners without being an asshole.

Ted's a little different, unlike you and me he sometimes fails to engage his brain before typing. But the point is, that isn't the rule, it's the exception. Ted is not a troll, so he shouldn't be banned.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-06-19 12:15pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Howedar wrote:I wasn't referring to apparent favoritism WRT Shep. I was referring to the fact that Ted can call the Japanese "nips" and bash gays without apparent penalty, but if he offends the nationality of the mods he gets a temp (or perma) ban. Maybe I'm just suspicious and paranoid, but the timing seemed odd to me.
It was a cumulative effect. We don't have hair triggers, so it took several incidents to rate a temp ban.

If this isn't a hair trigger reaction, I'd love to see an example of one.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-06-19 12:20pm

Aya wrote:I'm going with the general sentiment and vote perm ban. Besides, I've heard he flames gays/lesbians/bi.

Mary had a little lamb,
little lamb,
little lamb.
Mary had a little lamb,
Its fleece was white as snow.

Everywhere that Mary went,
Mary went,
Mary went.
Everywhere that Mary went,
The lamb was sure to go.

It followed her to school one day,
school one day,
school one day.
It followed her to school one day,
Which was against the rules.

It made the children laugh and play,
laugh and play,
laugh and play.
It made the children laugh and play,
To see a lamb at school.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-06-19 12:23pm

Bored,

You may not like how or why people vote but kindly stop ridiculing those that vote against your opinion, you don't see the pro ban people saying anytihg about you directly. They are answering your passionate defense of Ted without ridiculing or flaming you. Some common fucking courtesy please.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-06-19 12:54pm

BoredShirtless wrote:So? Why does post length factor into a decision to ban someone? Should we all start posting to a fixed minimum word length?

I'm beginning to think you don't want to understand what we're saying. Let me spell it out for you: When Ted, as with most anyone, is only saying a few words, he shouldn't really offend anyone. When Ted speaks his mind, he pisses people off.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:Yeah but when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In other words, his spam was surronded by other peoples spam. However when people where on topic, he was too.

And THAT's when he was an asshole. Perhaps you're getting it now?

Pablo Sanchez wrote:Ted's a little different, unlike you and me he sometimes fails to engage his brain before typing. But the point is, that isn't the rule, it's the exception. Ted is not a troll, so he shouldn't be banned.

It's not the exception. What you're doing is trying to pull together a bunch of isolated spam posts to show that Ted isn't so bad. That's a poor argument for anyone, and especially poor on Ted's behalf.

Let me ask you this: Do you think that a Klansman spends all of his time shouting about how much he hates minorities? No. He goes to work, talks about the latest baseball game, eats his microwave dinner in front of the TV, and only really gets worked up about minorities every once in a while. Does this mean he's not an intolerant bigot and an asshole. NO!

The same applies to Ted.

If this isn't a hair-trigger reaction, I'd love to see one.

Would you? A hair-trigger reaction would have been banning Ted the first time he shot his mouth off. Or it might have been temp-banning him for any one of the hundred times since he got back on that he's behaved like an asshole. Or it might have been perma-banning him right now, without taking the time to poll the board and unfortunately read your inanities.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-06-19 12:55pm

Stravo wrote:Bored,

You may not like how or why people vote but kindly stop ridiculing those that vote against your opinion, you don't see the pro ban people saying anytihg about you directly. They are answering your passionate defense of Ted without ridiculing or flaming you. Some common fucking courtesy please.

Members who give reasons like "well everyone else wants him banned I'll just go with the flow" deserve to be ridiculed I'm afraid.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-06-19 01:05pm

BoredShirtless wrote:Members who give reasons like "well everyone else wants him banned I'll just go with the flow" deserve to be ridiculed I'm afraid.

Let me pose a question.
Take a person who has been on here for only four months, and has posted less than 180 times; a person like that who enters this thread with the opinion that he knows Ted far better than any of the long-term members. In short, a person who has only a small grasp of the situation, but declares that he is much more aware of the issue than any of the people who have been intimately involved with it since Ted's registration.

Should this person be ridiculed?

Baron Scarpia · Post by **Baron Scarpia** » 2003-06-19 02:02pm

Perm ban, from what I've seen. And I'd one up it with charging some diligent mod going through the forums and systematically deleting any and every reference to his very existence. He craves attention more than anything, and loves having people here focusing on him.

ELIMINATE HIM! Make it look like he never existed. Then he can't come back here to review his handiwork!

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-06-19 02:21pm

BoredShirtless wrote:Members who give reasons like "well everyone else wants him banned I'll just go with the flow" deserve to be ridiculed I'm afraid.

You get full points for gusto, kid, but you are metaphorically getting out of the safari jeep and kicking the lions. Guess what that means, metaphorically?

What I want to know is, do you understand what behaviour Ted has exhibited that has insulted and pissed MORE THAN ONE person off? And that he has been warned repeatedly and told to knock it the hell off? You claim he's not 'all bad'. Here's a saying for you: Someone who is nice to you, but mean to the waiter, ain't a nice person. That means that just because he lends himself to unoffensive conversation some of the time doesn't give him a license to be an ignorant fucking moron at other times. And there's no reason that his chosen targets should have to suffer insults brought out just because Ted felt like it.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-06-19 02:39pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:So? Why does post length factor into a decision to ban someone? Should we all start posting to a fixed minimum word length?
I'm beginning to think you don't want to understand what we're saying. Let me spell it out for you: When Ted, as with most anyone, is only saying a few words, he shouldn't really offend anyone.

Word count is irrelevant to anti-social behaviour Pablo, and shouldn't be used to excuse, justify or explain it.

Pablo Sanchez wrote: When Ted speaks his mind, he pisses people off.

Yeah I noticed. But banning him for being obnoxious? Why? And why now? He was living up to his custom title for fucks sake.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:Yeah but when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In other words, his spam was surronded by other peoples spam. However when people where on topic, he was too.
And THAT's when he was an asshole. Perhaps you're getting it now?

Getting what champ? What should I really be getting at this point? The reason to permanetly ban Ted? Well if you have one, fire away! Being an arsehole isn't valid, or I'd be opening a poll right now to have you banned.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:Ted's a little different, unlike you and me he sometimes fails to engage his brain before typing. But the point is, that isn't the rule, it's the exception. Ted is not a troll, so he shouldn't be banned.
It's not the exception.

Bullshit. Back this claim up.

Pablo Sanchez wrote: What you're doing is trying to pull together a bunch of isolated spam posts to show that Ted isn't so bad. That's a poor argument for anyone, and especially poor on Ted's behalf.

What a load of shit. My list of posts was an answer to Kelly's challenge. Familarise yourself with a conversation before butting in.

Pablo Sanchez wrote: Let me ask you this: Do you think that a Klansman spends all of his time shouting about how much he hates minorities? No. He goes to work, talks about the latest baseball game, eats his microwave dinner in front of the TV, and only really gets worked up about minorities every once in a while. Does this mean he's not an intolerant bigot and an asshole. NO!

The same applies to Ted.

Oh this is fucking rich. Comparing an obnoxious adolecent to a working Klansman is the height of stupidity.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
If this isn't a hair-trigger reaction, I'd love to see one.
Would you? A hair-trigger reaction would have been banning Ted the first time he shot his mouth off. Or it might have been temp-banning him for any one of the hundred times since he got back on that he's behaved like an asshole. Or it might have been perma-banning him right now, without taking the time to poll the board and unfortunately read your inanities.

Yes it's clear I'm being inane here with a bunch of illegitimate questions and a deviously compiled list of posts, please put me out of my misery with a killer reply.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-06-19 02:47pm

Being an arsehole isn't valid, or I'd be opening a poll right now to have you banned.

I'd like to see that. I doubt you'd like the poll results.

BSL, cease and desist. You weren't here during the events that led to Ted's first ban. He didn't get any better. You may feel that some VIP members are only mad because of his irish comments. Your bad, and they are completely justified in their wrath. Make similar idiotic comments about the portuguese and I'll see you banned.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-06-19 02:47pm

Are you just playing Devil's advocate...or just using your limited span you've been here as an excuse for not seeing Ted's done more then enough in the past.

So when missing out when he stalked Kelly, decided that being Anti-American REGARDLESS of topic, and basically egging on posters who disagreed with him. His Weekend of Hell with Shep was more then enough for Perm Ban...hell Shep's improved somewhat since then...Ted hasn't.

So we should just slap him on the wrist when he's been given more then enough chances to stop purposely egging posters?

Yeah we're just being dickheads for NOW thinking of banning him

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irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2003-06-19 02:48pm

I must say I find it....odd that Ted's case has inspired such a passionate defense from BoredShirtless. Hey Bored, do you guys know each other or something?

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