Gladiator

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-06-18 11:07pm

I just watched this again the other day and was reminded how great it is. Later on I heard some guy rambling about how stupid it was and how it shouldn't have gotten the Oscar.

Why do people like to knock Gladiator so much? Sorry if this has been done before.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-18 11:14pm

I personally don't like it that much, to tell you the truth.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-18 11:14pm

I don't really get the dislike either, I thought it was brilliant myself.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-06-18 11:18pm

I like it but I can see where the Best Picture Oscar may have been pushing things a bit. I just assume it's one of those Karma things to make up for movies like Chicago and Shakespeare In Love winning.

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-06-18 11:20pm

It's violent, and it's a blockbuster. Those are both black marks in a typical critic's book, so they went into the theatre with a preconception, just LOOKING for excuses to attack it rather than simply watching the movie.

It's also a man's movie, and whether critics admit it or not, they derive a perverse sense of superiority from disliking anything that Joe Sixpack likes, particularly if it isn't sufficiently original for them.

Oh no, a vengeance theme! We've seen this before, so the movie sucks!

lgot · Post by **lgot** » 2003-06-18 11:30pm

I think it is just a movie that was well done. Ridley Scott sold his soul to make Blade Runner and since then just did not great stuff even if he is very careful.
It is odd, Because Crowe is a good actor, but he did very little in Gladiator...and the story is just nothing and the History much less...The emperor had the mindset of a Dragon Ball Z villain...

The big deal is the really awesome Rome...I think that is all and could have lasted 15 minutes then...

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-06-18 11:31pm

Well, I hate to be in the minority opinion with you people, but I really didn't enjoy the movie. I can't exactly put my finger on why this is just yet, but needless to say I haven't been able to sit back and watch the whole movie through with interest.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-06-18 11:35pm

I love it. I watch scenes from it every day.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-06-19 12:19am

I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.

If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-06-19 12:22am

It was pretty good, but its not the sort of thing I'd buy

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-19 12:30am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.

If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.

Wouldn't it just be her getting it on with her brother? Do you really want to see that?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-19 12:32am

neoolong wrote:
TrailerParkJawa wrote:I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.

If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.
Wouldn't it just be her getting it on with her brother? Do you really want to see that?

Orgy scenes would have that, but you ignore the basic point, there are other people and they aren't related in RL anyway. That I know of.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-19 12:38am

Gandalf wrote:
neoolong wrote:
TrailerParkJawa wrote:I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.

If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.
Wouldn't it just be her getting it on with her brother? Do you really want to see that?
Orgy scenes would have that, but you ignore the basic point, there are other people and they aren't related in RL anyway. That I know of.

Bah. You just want to see breasts.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-06-19 12:40am

You can see Connie Nielsen naked in The Devil's Advocate (and she looks as good naked as you'd imagine).

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-19 12:41am

I didn't find it to be that interesting, it was a little boring at times, wasn't violent enough, and I don't like how it was edited.

And gratuitous nudity and sex would have just padded the film even more than it already was with what it had.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-06-19 12:44am

The movie just bored me, and the response that the movie got fertilized that boredom until it blossomed into a firery rose of hate.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-06-19 12:47am

Not a bad flick, but I don't understand the raves it gets.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-06-19 12:55am

neoolong wrote: Bah. You just want to see breasts.

Of course!

Durran Korr wrote:You can see Connie Nielsen naked in The Devil's Advocate (and she looks as good naked as you'd imagine).

I remember that scene. Wow!

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-19 01:38am

I thought it was pretty good.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-06-19 01:43am

Frankly, I'm a little awe-struck that people don't like it more. Everything about the movie was fucking good! The only thing I would change would be to add in some of the cut scenes that help to show the black hole of humanity Commodus had become....

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-06-19 11:14am

Yeah, I would have added in the cut scene where he orders the death of the two Praetorians. Then, when Quintus orders the Praetorians to sheath their swords during the final fight, and they obey, it would have been more obvious why.

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2003-06-19 11:58am

The ending was fucking horrible. I'm sorry, but no Roman emperor in his right mind would have gotten into a sword fight with a gladiator. Even the insane ones knew better than to fuck around with gladiators.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2003-06-19 03:09pm

irishmick79 wrote:The ending was fucking horrible. I'm sorry, but no Roman emperor in his right mind would have gotten into a sword fight with a gladiator. Even the insane ones knew better than to fuck around with gladiators.

And how many of the insane ones did have personal grudges with said gladiator, and had openly defied by him before?

I found the fight fully in line with Commodus' personality. Appear to be honorable and valiant, but rig the fight so there's no actual danger.
And lets face it, in the real world it would have worked.

I found the movie brilliant. The end damn near makes me cry, every time.

'Is Rome worth one good man's life?
We believed it once. Make us believe it again.
He was a soldier of Rome.Honor him.'

*sniff*

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-06-19 03:15pm

The movie was ok... I really thought that CT/HD should of won for best Picture. Gladiator just reminded me of braveheart to much. Guy who has loved one die, goes up against an evil king who killed loved one, finds love in another woman, both king and hero die in the end.

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2003-06-19 03:29pm

I just think the emperor wouldn't have bothered with fighting Maximus himself. He had multiple ways of gruesome public execution he could have utilized instead. I strongly disagree that the fight would have been inline with Commodus's personality. Commodus did not like the taste of battle one bit, and went to great lengths to avoid it.