The most well known people of the VS community

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-06-05 10:52am

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:How does using the ANH Dodonna quote for firepower constitute LYING and FALSE quoting. It is so well known no one can last long misquoting it without being corrected.

Nah, I am talking about Kynes actions when he was at SB.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-06-05 12:55pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
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I realize this is facetious nomination, but at least it was a positive one....

Phil Skayhan · Post by **Phil Skayhan** » 2003-06-05 01:04pm

Alyeska wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:How does using the ANH Dodonna quote for firepower constitute LYING and FALSE quoting. It is so well known no one can last long misquoting it without being corrected.
Nah, I am talking about Kynes actions when he was at SB.

Relevant thread from SB

Interesting discussion.

Personally, I can't see Kynes as a troll. But I can see how he got under your skin.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-06-05 01:36pm

Alyeska wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:How does using the ANH Dodonna quote for firepower constitute LYING and FALSE quoting. It is so well known no one can last long misquoting it without being corrected.
Nah, I am talking about Kynes actions when he was at SB.

I take it that Kynes is no longer active at SB?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-06-05 02:05pm

StimNeuro wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:How does using the ANH Dodonna quote for firepower constitute LYING and FALSE quoting. It is so well known no one can last long misquoting it without being corrected.
Nah, I am talking about Kynes actions when he was at SB.
I take it that Kynes is no longer active at SB?

Hasn't posted since 2002.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-06-05 02:49pm

Kynes hasn't been posting in general at all. I talk to him over AIM and got him to post once on ASVS a week or so ago, but he's effectively retired and focusing on other things.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-06-06 01:24am

Yeah, the most contact I've had with him is periodic AIM chats about the newsgroup stat program.

I'm still working on a fixed version of it, by the way...

Piett · Post by **Piett** » 2003-06-10 01:50am

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the late, great Plain & Simple Cronan. I'm not sure if he meets the specifics of a Warsie, exactly, but he *did* very ably eviscerate TJ back in the days when ASVS was in its infancy and the versus debate was a messy crosspost across several Trek/Wars NGs.

I'd have added a twerp who went by the moniker 'Rush Limbaugh' to the list of Warsie trolls. This guy was a nut and were there an afterlife, it would be poetic justice for him and TJ to end up in the same small room arguing this topic for eternity.

As far as trolls go, though, I'd still say TJ ranks supreme in the Trekkie pantheon. I once had the unfortunate experience to track down many of his very old NG postings (again, pre-ASVS) and the guy had a pretty visceral loathing of all things Star Wars.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-06-10 06:27am

Dalton wrote:This is the damn oddest fucking convo I've ever read.

Sweet innocence...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-10 08:02am

Captain_Cyran wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
Captain_Cyran wrote: But...but...Space Luigi had an F-18 beating a TIE fighter!!!
But then again, Darkstar said a Federation Type 2 phaser was more powerful than a HTL.

It's all relative.
Oh wow...I didn't remember that.

I think you'll find it here.

Sorry if that link doesn't work.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-10 07:08pm

Gandalf wrote:I think you'll find it here.

Sorry if that link doesn't work.

What a crock of shit. Were have HTL demonstrated being so weak, and Phasers so powerful?

Darkstar is a real Mother-Fucking Cunthead.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2003-06-19 01:20pm

I think that Darkstar should be the #1 Trekkie Troll for lifetime. More faults, crude ideas, biased concepts or outright lies than Darkstar produced aren't possible.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-06-19 09:51pm

I'm suprise no one mentioned ole Gothmog. He was a real card, that one. One time, he tried to argue the "lasers of any power would not work on Federation shields" once. I argued with him until his position was "lasers will not penetrate Federation shields unless they have sufficent power, then they will" at which point, he claimed it was his position all along.

Also, it was funny how all the Trekkies at SB though he was going to humble Mike and then when he turned out to be a dud, he largely disappeared from the debating arena.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-20 02:16am

Tribun wrote:I think that Darkstar should be the #1 Trekkie Troll for lifetime. More faults, crude ideas, biased concepts or outright lies than Darkstar produced aren't possible.

I think there are probably moe trolish ones out there, we just haven't found them.

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2003-06-20 06:43am

Tribun wrote:I think that Darkstar should be the #1 Trekkie Troll for lifetime. More faults, crude ideas, biased concepts or outright lies than Darkstar produced aren't possible.

Nah you can't beat TJ watts and joules are interchangeable.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-06-20 10:41am

Ah memories, reminds me of when I used to versus debate all the time ages ago.

I think you guys have got it all sorted out now.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-20 10:47am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Ah memories, reminds me of when I used to versus debate all the time ages ago.

I think you guys have got it all sorted out now.

We're fighting the peace now.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-06-20 11:10am

Gandalf wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Ah memories, reminds me of when I used to versus debate all the time ages ago.

I think you guys have got it all sorted out now.
We're fighting the peace now.

Bah, back in my day (early 2000 to late 2001) we encountered a vast number of trolls and valiant debaters who'd lay their lives down for their chosen sci-fi franchise.

We used to enjoy a good troll bashing as much as the next slightly psychologically unstable versus debater, we also loved Galaxy Vs. ISD and Stormtrooper Versus Red Shirt threads.

Boy, if only I had a time machine. I'd go back in time to those memorable days and choke myself with the mouse cord to make it stop.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-20 12:29pm

Thunderfire wrote:
Tribun wrote:I think that Darkstar should be the #1 Trekkie Troll for lifetime. More faults, crude ideas, biased concepts or outright lies than Darkstar produced aren't possible.
Nah you can't beat TJ watts and joules are interchangeable.

I've encountered people who think velocity is the same as acceleration and people who call e=mc^2 an unfounded assumption.

Both 5ers incidently.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-06-20 01:36pm

Ender wrote:
Thunderfire wrote:
Tribun wrote:I think that Darkstar should be the #1 Trekkie Troll for lifetime. More faults, crude ideas, biased concepts or outright lies than Darkstar produced aren't possible.
Nah you can't beat TJ watts and joules are interchangeable.
I've encountered people who think velocity is the same as acceleration and people who call e=mc^2 an unfounded assumption.

Both 5ers incidently.

Bah, Wes Hutchings' "It doesn't sound a concussion missile, so it's not a concussion missile." arguement has to fit up there.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-06-22 02:40pm

StimNeuro wrote: Bah, Wes Hutchings' "It doesn't sound a concussion missile, so it's not a concussion missile." arguement has to fit up there.

Ah yes old Wes...I think Dalton sent me a letter when I was in jail
with the LT's latest effort at fanfic, where he killed Wes Hutchins, ahahah

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-06-22 02:58pm

MKSheppard wrote:
StimNeuro wrote: Bah, Wes Hutchings' "It doesn't sound a concussion missile, so it's not a concussion missile." arguement has to fit up there.
Ah yes old Wes...I think Dalton sent me a letter when I was in jail
with the LT's latest effort at fanfic, where he killed Wes Hutchins, ahahah

Speaking of the LT, does anyone know where he's been or if anything has happened to him?

Graeme Dice · Post by **Graeme Dice** » 2003-06-24 01:31am

Thunderfire wrote:Wasn't he the one who uses Dodonna's quote to calculate an ISDs firepower
based on the DS calcs?

If you want to pin that argument on someone, then it would have to be me. I've used it far more than Kynes ever did.

Graeme Dice · Post by **Graeme Dice** » 2003-06-24 01:36am

Alyeska wrote:What makes him a troll is that he actively encourages lying to win a debate as well as deceit and false quoting.

You know what? I posted a reply to that message on Dec. 6, 2000 asking for proof that he said that he would lie, and I'm still waiting for that quote. You'd think that such a quote would materialize after nearly three years if it actually existed.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-06-24 01:52am

Piett wrote:I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the late, great Plain & Simple Cronan. I'm not sure if he meets the specifics of a Warsie, exactly, but he *did* very ably eviscerate TJ back in the days when ASVS was in its infancy and the versus debate was a messy crosspost across several Trek/Wars NGs.

Huh, I think I mentioned P&SC. Pretty sure I did...

Piett wrote:I'd have added a twerp who went by the moniker 'Rush Limbaugh' to the list of Warsie trolls. This guy was a nut and were there an afterlife, it would be poetic justice for him and TJ to end up in the same small room arguing this topic for eternity.

Rush Limbaugh. Heard the name, never met the looney.

Piett wrote:As far as trolls go, though, I'd still say TJ ranks supreme in the Trekkie pantheon. I once had the unfortunate experience to track down many of his very old NG postings (again, pre-ASVS) and the guy had a pretty visceral loathing of all things Star Wars.

TJ is up there. DarkStar's teacher.

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