Empire vs FKR Alliance, Trek Books count

[Ender]

The Empire vs the Federation Klingon Romulan Alliance. But for this debate Trek books count.

Note that anyone who tries claiming things based on that X men crossover gets a boot to the fucking head.

[Vympel]

Ok- X-Men crossover ... erm ... what happened?!

[BenRG]

Ok- X-Men crossover ... erm ... what happened?!

Executive Summary:

• Surley Forehead Aliens of the week have been interfering with the genetics of some on a Federation member planet to create biological 'weapons' (i.e. mutant fighters).
• X-Men turn up on Enterprise-E due to (technobabble)
• Mutants on Federation member planet rebel against governmental restrictions under leadership of a Magneto-wannabe
• SFAs hand the Ent-E a can of whupass
• X-Men stop mutant rebellion by a combination of kind words and hard fists while Starfleet crewman stand around looking useless and out-evolved
• Wolverine single-handedly does what a state-of-the-art Sovereign-class starship and its' crew cannot by taking out the SFAs starship.
• X-Men decline Dr. Crusher's offer of a 'cure' for their mutations and use (technobabble) to return to their own universe
• Q and The Watcher deliver the epilogue
• CHARACTERISATION: Captain Picard romantically involved with Storm?!?

On the main subject of the thread: I'm not sure that it is possible to use the books in the manner that you clearly want us to. The problem is that the ST novels don't have any kind of internally consistent canon in the way that the SW novels do. Consequently, different books can have wildly different rules. Diane Duane's 'Rhihansu' has a massively non-canon version of the Romulans, gives the Ent-nil about thirty phaser banks and a top speed of Warp 14. Some early TNG novels have a really weird interpretation of some of the technology. "The Final Reflection" has a completely different history of the Klingon Empire to canon.

Because of this, the novels are often in complete contradiction to each other. It is impossible to use them (excvept on a case-by-case basis) to judge an AU Federation's capabilities.

[Solauren]

I had to agree hugely with that 'novels are hard to use'.

I can name a few examples. Actually here is the best one

The one's written by James T Kirk himself (William Shattner)

For example
the Mirror Universe Kirk becoming Emperor (which we know doesn't happen, at least not in the variant visited by the DS9 crew)
The Borg and Romulans reanimating Captain Kirk to use vs the Federation


Now, if you mean the novelizations of the movies or TV episodes, THAT is feasible.

[Gandalf]

Wasn't there a novel that gave us a "Static Warp Torpedo", which collapsed the universe around anything it hit?

[consequences]

If we use Duane novels, then we have greatly increased warp speeds, the ability to build mile long ships in TOS, and planet busting firepower.
If we use Peter David's Vendetta, we have Starfleet ships resisting firepower that carved a chunk out of a pure neutronium hull.
More later hopefully.

[NecronLord]

Starfleet survival guide:

Photon grenades still exist.

Total energy output of phasers on overload

Type 1: 7.2e12J
Type 2: 4.5e13J
Type 3: 2.8e14J

The feddies can also induce supernova.

[Ingersoll]

In one of the books, not only does the TNG Enterprise go into a black hole, maneuver and fight and come out again, but so does the TOS Enterprise, and one of the TOS Enteprise shuttles