Ep III space battle [Medium Spoiler]

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-06-12 04:10am

Good news!

Although I'm expecting that this movie will really shake the ground, GL can still make a big pile of shit from the whole concept...

willburns84 · Post by **willburns84** » 2003-06-21 10:24pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Cool...my only beef is another villain?

Eh...still nice line-up of what possibly to expect.

Well, GL and company might be covering their asses with this one. Wild speculation on my part, but Christopher Lee is pretty old and if he just happens to die between now and the end of shooting for Episode III (or at least his parts in the film), they have something they can use in the meantime...

On second thought, even if Mr. Lee were to pass on in that case, GL could always slap him in digitally, in much the same way as was done in the fight scenes in AOTC...

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-21 10:53pm

Axis Kast wrote:Stover does rock, yes. Although I hear people hatred Traitor.

Stover also tells us the size of the galaxy. He has Windu claim - as a general in the Grand Army of the Republic - that there are barely 1.2 million clone troopers.

By seeding their borders with 'droid starfighters and saving a ready-reserve of TF BBs and Geonosian Dreadnaughts, the CIS has more or less rendered itself unassailable for the time being.

Mace says that if the 1.2 million army was spread to everyone world in the Republic, barely thousands would be left. And that's to put one single man on every planet.

Groan. Don't remind me about idiot LFL/EU (and with kudos to GL for this bit too) scale stupidity.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-21 10:58pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Axis Kast wrote:Stover does rock, yes. Although I hear people hatred Traitor.

Stover also tells us the size of the galaxy. He has Windu claim - as a general in the Grand Army of the Republic - that there are barely 1.2 million clone troopers.

By seeding their borders with 'droid starfighters and saving a ready-reserve of TF BBs and Geonosian Dreadnaughts, the CIS has more or less rendered itself unassailable for the time being.

Mace says that if the 1.2 million army was spread to everyone world in the Republic, barely thousands would be left. And that's to put one single man on every planet.
Groan. Don't remind me about idiot LFL/EU (and with kudos to GL for this bit too) scale stupidity.

Because Lord knows you know what Star Wars should be better then the person who created it, their company, and the person he gave specific instructions to.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-21 11:01pm

Ender wrote:Because Lord knows you know what Star Wars should be better then the person who created it, their company, and the person he gave specific instructions to.

I suppose you can somehow "mine space" with enough ships to effectively prevent incursions despite how fucking big it is and account for that pesky third dimension?

An Army of 1.2 million would not be able to police Coruscant or Metelos or any other of the heavily built up worlds, which are not all that uncommon. Its not even worthy as a police force.

It is Wars, doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

And I suppose you have proof that you know he recieved instructions from Lucas himself?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-21 11:04pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Ender wrote:Because Lord knows you know what Star Wars should be better then the person who created it, their company, and the person he gave specific instructions to.
I suppose you can somehow "mine space" with enough ships to effectively prevent incursions despite how fucking big it is and account for that pesky third dimension?

An Army of 1.2 million would not be able to police Coruscant or Metelos or any other of the heavily built up worlds, which are not all that uncommon. Its not even worthy as a police force.

It is Wars, doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

And your bitching and moaning like this is EXACTLY the same thing you ripped Bob Brown on. That was my point.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-21 11:11pm

Ender wrote:And your bitching and moaning like this is EXACTLY the same thing you ripped Bob Brown on. That was my point.

I ripped at Bob Brown because he implies (in fact directly, numerous times) that he knows how Star Wars could've been the grand legend, and how its creator fucked it up. Bob jumped to conclusions without realizing things (like his anger about the droids, the fact that the TF isn't explained in excruciating detail, and the hover tank thing), and made a big scene about how everyone w/out his perspective wasn't a true fan or something, and then bailed out because Lucas didn't write his Star Wars.

I don't know how to write Star Wars, and I don't think I can. It doesn't take a lot of figuring that in a galaxy 120 thousand light-years across, with ~50 million colonized planets and ~1 million major ones, with numerous worlds that have populations probably around 1 quadrillion individuals and an industrial base that can build 60% of a 900 kilometer-diameter space station in six months and drain oceans with a fleet, that 1.2 million troopers is a grain of salt in a vast ocean.

Star Wars is George Lucas' baby, I've never contested that. Do I think when he wrote AOTC he didn't take into account the scale of his own universe implied in other parts of the same damn movie? Yeah, probably.

Now regardless if it annoys you, I don't really give a shit. It's dumb and I'll say it is as such.

EDIT: Are you implying that you don't think a longer, more intense clone war, at least with lots of action soon, and a larger amount of clones (doing the brunt of the fighting) wouldn't make for a better story and be more realistic?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-06-22 12:39am

Axis Kast wrote:In Shatterpoint, Windu is the man.

They also raise the question of whether we'll see lightsaber duels by the force rather than actual combatants. You know, spinning 'sabers without people actually using them directly.

Sorry Axis, but while visualy that would be something, in the end it makes little if no sense. Why waste the power to do that? At the risk of offending, thats dumb.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-06-22 05:58am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Axis Kast wrote:Mace says that if the 1.2 million army was spread to everyone world in the Republic, barely thousands would be left. And that's to put one single man on every planet.
It matches Tarkin's 1 million planets quote from the ANH novelization.

Because it's cool in my opinion?
Lets paint a picture here...

Two guys, standing at opposite ends of the room with their eyes closed and perhaps waving their arms about while a pair of blades fling around in the air really fast; there are no intricate maneuvers or generally showing off a Jedi's power. Just two sabers hovering in the center of the room smacking each other.

IMHO it would be excrutiatingly boring.

Look, my lightsaber struck where your hand would have been!