Ethics of Hunting

[Death from the Sea]

I consider myself to be a rather enthusiastic hunter, and I obey all of the rules and regulations when hunting(State of Texas). My question(s) to the board members is 1) all do you hunt? 2) if not, why? 3) what do the hunters of the board consider to be ethical and unethical hunts?(do you approve of using timed feeders and box blinds, do you approve of "canned hunts", etc...)

[Jabba the Hutt]

1) I mostly hunt in the wilds of Walmart, believe me it's more exciting and dangerous than anywhere else in the world.


3) I say if you're going to eat it then you have the right to kill it ( note, I'm not referring to cannibals.)

[UltraViolence83]

Well my dad hunts. I don't because I've never really been offered the chance to.

Killing an animal for food/trophy is just as unethical as wearing a leather jacket or eating a hamburger. PETA can suck my nuts. And if I ever see one of those stupid fuckers that run through the woods scaring off the animals, It would take some restraint on my part not to grievously wound them with the rifle.

I argue to these people that without deer and rabbit hunting, we'd be overrun by them (which is the case in many areas.) They say that the government can take care of the problem. They don't realize how: Animal control teams come in and kill them.

Then I'd say that it is obscenely cheaper just to let citizens kill them off, and the gov. even gets money from it with hunting and weapon licenses!

Then we come to my favorite part: "But the animal control teams are professionals, and with all the hunting too many people would get hurt!"

So how many people really do get hurt in hunting accidents? It must be quite low, otherwise the state would outlaw it because of the danger involved. It's called WEARING A BRIGHT ORANGE VEST RETARD.

Fuckers.

[Slartibartfast]

Since when do I need a reason to not do something?

"How many of you have started a nuclear war? And if not, why?"

[LordShaithis]

1) all do you hunt?

Nope.

2) if not, why?

Jesus, I'd have to go outside and stuff.

3) what do the hunters of the board consider to be ethical and unethical hunts?(do you approve of using timed feeders and box blinds, do you approve of "canned hunts", etc...)

Shoot everything you can get away with. Roam the woods like those two guys on South Park, blasting everything that moves. Kidnap homeless people and shoot at them if you want. I'm pro-death.

[Sea Skimmer]

I hunt and I don't really care how you get the kill, somebody had better keep gunning the animals down.

My states deer problem is getting absurd. Professional hunters where brought in to clear out the Wissahickon park, which is located inside inside the city limits of Philadelphia and could support about thirty deer. They killed over four hundred and found that one to two hundred still remained. This of course was forcing them to graze outside of the park, which is surrounded by major roads and developments. Other parts of the state are just as bad.

However hunts I've been on haven't involved blinds or feeders, takes the fun out of it I think. It's already easy enough to bring down a deer at 150 meters with a 10-power scope without having them walk directly in front of you.

[Batman]

"How many of you have started a nuclear war? And if not, why?"

Because so far all my attempts to get my hands on nuclear weapons have been thwarted

Seriously, I need a reason to NOT do something?

No, I don't hunt. It's not my thing, the only animal that needs its population cut down here is assholes which I'm not allowed to hunt anyway, and I'd be required to wear really silly clothing

As long as you make good use of the carcass and the animal isn't put in unneccessary (sp?)pain, I don't care.
Hunting PURELY for trophies, though, is NOT making god use of it.
If you desperately need something to hang on the wall it's your own bloody fault for selecting tapestry you'd rather not look at. Live with it.

EDITed to fix typo
*glares at typo*

[Darth Gojira]

How about, to make it more "ethical", we hunt with bows/crossbows? Anyone can shoot a gun, but archery is the sport of people with a LOT of spare time on their hands !

[Zoink]

1) My father hunts. I don't.

2) I have no desire to kill things. Its a "messy" thing and I get no pleasure from it.

3) Hunting for food is OK. Hunting for pleasure is a waste of resources.

[Vympel]

Killing animals isn't my idea of a good time. I'll readily kill vermin I come across (insects), but I'm not going out of my way to derive pleasure from putting a bullet in a kangaroo's brain. If it needs to be done for whatever reason (e.g. culling to protect the environment etc) then go ahead.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

You kill what you eat; the exception being for conservation hunting, where letting people take trophies during the culling of an overpopulated herd which you're going to have to kill part of anyway seems just fine to me.

[Batman]

You kill what you eat; the exception being for conservation hunting, where letting people take trophies during the culling of an overpopulated herd which you're going to have to kill part of anyway seems just fine to me.

Absolutely, because you're hunting to cut down on overpopulation, and the trophies are just a side benefit. Notice I opposed hunting PURELY for trophies.

[Ted C]

I've been hunting twice. Fired and missed both times, but I at least confirmed that I'm willing to pull the trigger. I also helped clean the deer that the people with experience and good aim killed.

I actually think that it's important for anyone who eats meat to at least once demonstrate their willingness to do the dirty work. Too many people think that meat comes from the grocery store.

[Ted C]

You kill what you eat; the exception being for conservation hunting, where letting people take trophies during the culling of an overpopulated herd which you're going to have to kill part of anyway seems just fine to me.

You bloody well ought to clean them and collect the meat anyway. Shelters and food kitchens accept donations, you know.

If you're going to kill it, be as thorough as possible at using it, ok?

[InnerBrat]

1) all do you hunt?

Of course not.

2) if not, why?

*points at location*
The only thing around here NOT endangered is grey squirrels, tube mice and pigeons, and there's no meat on them.

[MKSheppard]

*points at location*

Krapy Rub Snift?

I'm going to start exterminating every cute cuddly thing here. The deer
here are so stupid you can walk up to them and they won't run...and they
have lyme disease

[InnerBrat]

*points at location*

Krapy Rub Snift?

*desperately tries not to hijack. Fails*

Not a Mornington Crescent player, huh?

Krapy Rub Snif is Finsbury Park backwards. It's in North London (just past Camden)

[NecronLord]

The deer
here are so stupid you can walk up to them and they won't run...

Natural Selection Time.

[Batman]

*points at location*

Krapy Rub Snift?

Actually, I've alway wondered myself but was too embarassed to ask...

EDITed to fix quoting tags.

EDITed again because it's already been answered. Nevermind me...

[LadyTevar]

I consider myself to be a rather enthusiastic hunter, and I obey all of the rules and regulations when hunting(State of Texas). My question(s) to the board members is 1) all do you hunt? 2) if not, why? 3) what do the hunters of the board consider to be ethical and unethical hunts?(do you approve of using timed feeders and box blinds, do you approve of "canned hunts", etc...)

1 & 2) No, since I don't have a liscense. When I was younger (10-14) I would go out with my dad and take potshots at squirrels. Never hit any that I know of ... I killed a couple sparrows, but you can't eat those

3) Timed feeders and canned hunts are Trophy Tricks, meant to bring the deer in so tourists who don't have time to really hunt can bag a buck. I dont' approve, but it pays someone's bills and the meat is usually eaten or given away. A farmer who sets a salt block out on a wooded section of his farm all year round and then sets up a blind or tree stand near it for hunting season is doing about the same thing, but I have less trouble with the idea.

Would I hunt now, if I had the money to spare for a liscense? I don't know. My mom still has a couple of my dad's deer rifles, and I have my 4-10 for squirrel. I just don't have the time honestly, and there'd be something missing without Dad there.

Pity, cause I'd love some venison steak or some squirrel legs 'n' gravy.

[Death from the Sea]

I wouldn't say that timed feeders are purely a trophy trick. While the main idea to feed the deer might be so they grow better trophies; there are some other positive aspects which it brings. First of all I agree their is more of a positive for the hunter than the hunted but hey the hunter is the one spending the $$$. Anyway on to some of the benefits
for the hunter
1) feeders get the animals on a somewhat predictable schedule that they can use (this in now way guarantees the animals will always show.)
2) better nutrition = better growth = better trophies

for the hunted animal
1) food is regularly provided so that even in a tough winter with little to eat, there is something to eat.
2) better nutrition = better growth = healthier animal = less disease spreading.

We use timed feeders out on our place, and we feed all year round. Culls are taken when possible and we try to tag out on the older does. Getting a trophy buck on top of that is just a luxury/opportunity that might present itself.

[Seggybop]

I don't see any entertainment value in capping random creatures. It seems mean. If you have some reason to do it (you want steak or there are too many around) that's fine, but it doesn't seem good to slay things for the sake of killing.

If you're going to make something die, it doesn't make any difference if you make it suffer or not. It dies. It can't complain. Make it dead however is most efficient or however you feel like. It doesn't matter.

[Coyote]

I own guns but have never been hunting and never saw the need to, although I'd be willing to go try it just to see what it is like. Even if I liked it though I doubt I'd do it much, simply because the activity does not hold a particular interest for me.

If other people want to do it I think that is great and I hope they have fun. PETA and similar "ooh, poor little Bambi" types are delusional.

Blinds wouldn't bother me but setting out bait or timed feeders seems to be lazy and cheating. More like fishing. The stalk is the challenge, not luring them into a KZ. But then again, hving not done hunting before I may be wrong on that.

Hmmm. Time to go eat some tasty meat.

[Sea Skimmer]

Since when do I need a reason to not do something?

"How many of you have started a nuclear war? And if not, why?"

I HAB has felt the Great Leaders thermonuclear and radiological wrath more then once.

[Sir Sirius]

1) I used to hunt quite often, but after my grandfather had a stroke in '99 I've gone hunting only a few times.

3) I don't really approve of using traps in sport hunting, I mean where is the sport in that? Also 'eat what you kill' is a good rule.

Oh, and since some people are stupid regulations on what kind of guns can be used to kill big game are good. So that there aren't going to morons out there trying to kill bears or elks with .22LRs.