Palpatine's and Vader's down-time?

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-06-25 08:51pm

What do ol' Palpy and Vader do when not Force-choking officers or hurling Force lightning?

Meditate?

Down-load porn off the Holo-net?

What DO they do for fun?

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-25 08:55pm

I think they go on the Coruscant red light district to shag some hot chicks.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-06-25 08:57pm

bake cookies!

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-06-25 08:58pm

Palp has a Twi'lieck Harem.

Vader has his med chamber.

We now know why Vader was always so antsy.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-06-25 09:00pm

Vader lost his genitals in a pit of lava. He can't have sex with anyone.

McNum · Post by **McNum** » 2003-06-25 09:06pm

Demiurge wrote:Vader lost his genitals in a pit of lava. He can't have sex with anyone.

The true reason Anakin turned to the Dark Side.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-25 09:09pm

Demiurge wrote:Vader lost his genitals in a pit of lava. He can't have sex with anyone.

Todays lesson "Do not fall in lave"

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-06-25 09:41pm

Anakin meets his old master right after being repaired and put into a cybernetic suit.

Obi-Wan: Anakin, are you alright!

Vader: Anakin is dead, I joined the Dark Side. Now you can call me Vader. Now prepare to die!

Obi-Wan: You want to kill me? Why!?

Vader: Because I hate you. It was your fault that I had to have a double life, keeping my love with Amidala in secret... in the end, that destroyed both of us!

Obi-Wan: Why did you do that?! And why do you blame me, or the Jedi!

Vader: Because we're not supposed to fall in love! It's part of the Jedi code!

Obi-Wan: Love? LOVE?! The Jedi Code says "don't fall in LAVA", not "don't fall in LOVE"!

Vader: Damn, now you tell me...

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-06-25 09:54pm

McNum wrote:
Demiurge wrote:Vader lost his genitals in a pit of lava. He can't have sex with anyone.
The true reason Anakin turned to the Dark Side.

OH COME ON! Your telling me that they saved a guy who fell in a pit of lava, yet they couldn't give him some sort of cybernetic "equipment"?! Look at Lukes hand!
Maybe they just haven't researched into it. After all, there are just some things man isn't ment to know....
But I'm just saying if some doctor came up to me and said "Yes, we've managed to save your from your burns and construct you a new body....but theres nothing we can do about your...little padawan...." and I was an all powerful Sith Lord.....He would have had a force choke rapped round his throat so quick, it would make Ewan McGregors lightsaber spining look like the speed of the spinning plate thing in a Microwave!

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-06-25 09:58pm

Actually, in all seriousness, Palpatine spent it learning, expanding on, and refining old Sith knowledge. He is would you could call a "Sith Book worm" of sorts. Plus, he played mind games with the courts and found that amusing, and he did have at least one kid, and a whole harim of professional concubines.

Vader on the other hand, practices combat and the dark side almost exclusively. I mean, he went through training droids left, right and center (ref Shadows of the Empire)

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-25 10:01pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Palp has a Twi'lieck Harem.

Vader has his med chamber.

We now know why Vader was always so antsy.

Palpatine does have a harem. Thats where Irek Ismaren and a lot of others came from.

In his spare time, Vader meditated. Or slept.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-25 11:41pm

YT300000 wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Palp has a Twi'lieck Harem.

Vader has his med chamber.

We now know why Vader was always so antsy.
Palpatine does have a harem. Thats where Irek Ismaren and a lot of others came from.

In his spare time, Vader meditated. Or slept.

Palpatine is not Irek's father. Another Hand is. But he did have a large number of womens around.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-06-25 11:51pm

ughhhhh Palpatine and women ewwwwww damn him and his old balls gahhhhh that is to gross to contemplate

out damned mental image OUT

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-26 12:55am

They watch Star Trek and comment on how even their old ships could so kick their asses.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-06-26 01:59am

neoolong wrote:They watch Star Trek and comment on how even their old ships could so kick their asses.

Good one!

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-06-26 02:45am

Im thinking, palpy's downtime was plotting how to get more power.

well, I find it relaxing

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2003-06-26 04:32am

Do we know, that the women around Palpatine are concubines and not some sort of bodyguard in disguise?

After all Mara´s disguise at the imperial court was being a dancer.

I somehow doubt as a Sith-Apprentice Palpatine got much opportunity to fool around with the other gender (and old habits die hard) and he gets pleasure from the execution of power rather than such mundane things like sex.

About Vader until now we don´t know if his entire body took a bath in lava. From the amount of his injuries it is still possible, that his "little padawan" is still functioning.

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2003-06-26 12:21pm

As already noted, Emperor Palpatine spent the majority of his time studying in seclusion, often on Byss. As described in the Prologue to Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, "Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace"; The Essential Guide to Characters expands on this (p. 123), saying

Palpatine effectively set up a system whereby the Empire couldn't survive without him. Once that system was in place, he became more distant and reclusive, seen only by those who needed to see him. His leaders and commanders would present the public face for him, while Darth Vader would present a public threat.

Along with the dark side arcana that Palpatine continued to master, he studied much of the old knowledge put aside with the conquest of the Old Republic. Palpatine was fascinated with the Spaarti cloning cylinders, and hoped they might be used to clone his own bodies; he was old and frail already, and using the dark side was consuming him faster.

This is confirmed even further by The New Essential Guide to Characters, which states (p. 132) "By the time of the Battle of Hoth, Pestage was, in fact, running the Empire. Palpatine, consumed with dark side studies, had surrendered the day-to-day responsibilities of rule to his Grand Vizier".

The Emperor's preoccupation with his studies continued even beyond his death at the Battle of Endor. The Dark Empire Sourcebook states (p. 37) that "As years passed and he grew stronger, he began to concentrate more on his Dark Side studies. Still, he did grow occasionally concerned when one leader or another would come close to silencing the others and claiming the throne". It even states in the summary of his special abilities (p. 39) that he has "spent decades studying the most arcane and esoteric Jedi disciplines".

The Dark Empire Sourcebook contains a few other clear indications of how the Emperor spent his free time. On page 64, it is stated explicitly, "

While his Vizier and ministers maintained the day-to-day operation of the Empire, Palpatine spent decades, frequently in seclusion, in meditation and study on a master work of his thoughts and teachings. No one can say when he first began work, but his advisors suspect it dates back to the time he first embraced the Dark Side.

It continues:

With the resources of a galaxy at his disposal, he gathered the greatest works of knowledge from over a million worlds. He studied the Force in all its guises throughout the galaxy, whether it was the shamanism of Jarvashqiine or the tales of the Tyia. Coupled with perversions of the secrets he ripped from the living minds of Jedi he captured during the Purge, he learned more than he ever expected

and

He sifted this lore till he could find every secret he needed to continue his studies. He had long ago gone beyond any knowledge to be found in the recovered teachings of the Krath or the Heresiarchs. Since then, his studies had principally been experimental. He gathered this knowledge, mostly crude and simplistic variations on traditional Jedi teachings, into a great assemblage of Dark Side Lore. He completed two volumes in this Dark Side Compendium: The Book of Anger and The Weakness of Inferiors.

The Emperor's third volume, The Creation of Monsters, is still in manuscript. Prior to his death above the Pinnacle Moon, the Emperor had planned hundreds of additional volumes. With the immortality his clone tanks provided him, he thought he literally had all the time in the universe with which to probe the limits of the Force.

It is known that the Emperor kept a harem of concubines. However, it is not in fact clear that he actually made use of them. The Essential Guide to Characters, for example, states (p. 123)"Palpatine set up a group of Force-sensitive candidates for training in different areas of the dark side. Some became the warrior-like Dark Siders, while others, such as Roganda Ismaren, became his companions"; "companions" is a very vague term, and could mean any number of things.

It is of course known that Roganda Ismaren is reputed to be one of the Emperor's concubines or mistresses. However, the interesting revelation in "The Emperor's Pawns" that the Emperor had nothing at all to do with the birth of her bastard son Irek (fathered by the Emperor's Hand Sarcev Quest), and that none of the Emperor's other concubines ever became impregnated leads one to wonder if they were really used as concubines at all.

Appearances are effectually reality in an environment such as the Emperor's court. The Emperor is already known to be a professor of that school of thought; he regularly uses illusions and façades to control those around him (the Visual Dictionary notes that even something so simple as his gnarled black cane is part of a masquerade on his part). Indeed, he need not have anything to do with his concubines for them to be so; one need look no further for an illustration of how this might be accomplished than Francisco d'Anconia, in Atlas Shrugged, who carefully crafted an image of himself as a dissolute womaniser without ever actually sleeping with his supposed mistresses.

Publius

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-06-26 12:26pm

If Palpatine set up a system where the Empire could function without him then that tends to cut against the party line that the Enpire collapsed because he was gone.

Unless the fleet at Endor's WAS the Imperial fleet right?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-26 12:35pm

Stravo wrote:If Palpatine set up a system where the Empire could function without him then that tends to cut against the party line that the Enpire collapsed because he was gone.

Unless the fleet at Endor's WAS the Imperial fleet right?

If it was, that means ISDs can lay out 5.42E32 per shot from a single LTL. I wouldn't have an issue with that.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-06-26 01:10pm

Stravo wrote:Unless the fleet at Endor's WAS the Imperial fleet right?

"With the imperial fleet spread thoughout the galaxy in a vain effort to engage us..."

Why shouldn't palpy have vast lusty sith orgies? If the jedi are celebate, then surely the sith should be sexual.

Vader probably does have a 'little padawan,' as his crotch pad has a removable section over where it should be (Practicallity for the actor)

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-26 02:00pm

Ender wrote:Palpatine is not Irek's father. Another Hand is. But he did have a large number of womens around.

Sarcev Quest (IIRC) is Irek's father.

Palpatine is father to Triclops though.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-06-26 02:30pm

NecronLord wrote:
Stravo wrote:Unless the fleet at Endor's WAS the Imperial fleet right?
"With the imperial fleet spread thoughout the galaxy in a vain effort to engage us..."

Right, the Fleet that was hiding out behind Endor.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-26 02:42pm

Stravo, what's with this pet theory?

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-06-26 02:50pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Stravo, what's with this pet theory?

Oh come on, its a fucking joke, but seriously how many of you when you saw ROTJ, bereft of EU at the time thought that was the entirety of the Imperial fleet? Certainly it was portrayed in such a way since after the battle the rebels were frolicking and the song was indicative of the end of the EMpire...take into account the added scenes in the special edition with the celebrations across the galaxy and you would think that Endor was the Empire's last gasp.

Mind you all this is bereft of EU and I was 10 or 11 at the time.

But why so perturbed? Thought I was going Darkstar on you?