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YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-29 12:46pm

I just saw X-Men.

Magneto has no telekinesis powers, just the ability to manipulate magnetic fields. Then how does he throw people around and hold them in place so easily? Humans aren't exactly very magnetic. At this science place once, I walked through a magnetic force-field and nothing happened.

Is there an explanation, or is this just a plot hole?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-06-29 12:52pm

Apparently his control of the EM field is great he can just latch on and float the person by manipulating gravity and what not.

It's absolutely ridiculous...but it's that or literally a plot hole.

Though I would say plot hole since X-Men movie Mags is not quite comic Mags.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-06-29 12:55pm

When does he throw people around? I don't remember him doing that.

KK · Post by KK » 2003-06-29 12:57pm

Comic mags can maniulate the entire EM spectrum.

As for movie Mags, Mystique injected the guy with liquid metal, and Maga used that to lift him up and then rip it from his chest.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-06-29 12:58pm

In the statue of liberty i think...wolverine is easily explained...the others i would guess iron in their blood or perhaps metal on their clothes or something...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-29 01:14pm

Lets not forget that anything, even diamagnetic materials, can be manipulated my a magnetic field if its strong enough. Remember those pictures of frogs and spiders floating in a tube. ::nodnod::

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-06-29 02:16pm

Iron in the bloodstream.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-06-29 03:22pm

kojikun wrote:Lets not forget that anything, even diamagnetic materials, can be manipulated my a magnetic field if its strong enough. Remember those pictures of frogs and spiders floating in a tube. ::nodnod::

Wouldn't that have grotesquely warped the "big steel conductor" spine the statue has?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-06-29 03:30pm

Rye wrote:
Wouldn't that have grotesquely warped the "big steel conductor" spine the statue has?

Magneto has enough control over magnetic fields to affect only the X-men?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-29 03:35pm

He probably can manipulate exactly how and where the fields are affected.

Think, people...

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2003-06-29 06:21pm

KK wrote:Comic mags can maniulate the entire EM spectrum.

As for movie Mags, Mystique injected the guy with liquid metal, and Maga used that to lift him up and then rip it from his chest.

Yeah, I saw that, shouldn't having that much Iron injected into him killed him?

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2003-06-29 06:22pm

Rye wrote:In the statue of liberty i think...wolverine is easily explained...the others i would guess iron in their blood or perhaps metal on their clothes or something...

IIRC, he just moved those metal straps to hit them and push them against the walls.

KK · Post by KK » 2003-06-29 06:25pm

observer_20000 wrote:
KK wrote:Comic mags can maniulate the entire EM spectrum.

As for movie Mags, Mystique injected the guy with liquid metal, and Maga used that to lift him up and then rip it from his chest.
Yeah, I saw that, shouldn't having that much Iron injected into him killed him?

Unless she just injected it into an organ or something, rather than directly into his bloodstream.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-06-30 12:57am

Ok, then it's pretty much settled that Magneto doesn't lift people in the movie(s) unless they have an abnormal amount of metal in their bodies. Case closed.

KK · Post by KK » 2003-06-30 01:00am

In fact he was helpless against the guard before he had metal injected into him.

Comic Magneto is another story, but movie Magneto needed metal to work with.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-06-30 01:03pm

KK wrote:In fact he was helpless against the guard before he had metal injected into him.

Comic Magneto is another story, but movie Magneto needed metal to work with.

Movie Magneto is much more like Magneto when he first appeared in the comics, which I think works better for the movies.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-06-30 01:04pm

In my previous post I was refurring to Magneto's powes. In motivation he's more like what they came up with later.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-06-30 01:37pm

YT300000 wrote:I just saw X-Men.

Magneto has no telekinesis powers, just the ability to manipulate magnetic fields. Then how does he throw people around and hold them in place so easily? Humans aren't exactly very magnetic. At this science place once, I walked through a magnetic force-field and nothing happened.

Is there an explanation, or is this just a plot hole?

Wolverine is a sitting duck; his skeleton is full of metal that Magneto can manipulate.

The guard in X2 had received an injection of some kind of non-toxic, iron-rich emulsion. His bloodstream was essentially full of iron.

These are the only people that Magneto has directly affected with his powers in the X-Men films. In the statue of liberty, he pulled pieces of metal from the structure of the statue and used them to bind the X-Men to the statue's walls. Near the end of X2 he levitated himself, but he was also wearing clothing of his own choosing, which could easily include metal fibers that would allow him to manipulate it (a known Magneto trick from the comics, btw).

KK · Post by KK » 2003-06-30 02:34pm

Tsyroc wrote:In my previous post I was refurring to Magneto's powes. In motivation he's more like what they came up with later.

Yeah, it was basically the Claremont/Jim Lee version of the character with the early Stan Lee powers.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-30 08:57pm

Ted C wrote:
YT300000 wrote:I just saw X-Men.

Magneto has no telekinesis powers, just the ability to manipulate magnetic fields. Then how does he throw people around and hold them in place so easily? Humans aren't exactly very magnetic. At this science place once, I walked through a magnetic force-field and nothing happened.

Is there an explanation, or is this just a plot hole?
Wolverine is a sitting duck; his skeleton is full of metal that Magneto can manipulate.

The guard in X2 had received an injection of some kind of non-toxic, iron-rich emulsion. His bloodstream was essentially full of iron.

These are the only people that Magneto has directly affected with his powers in the X-Men films. In the statue of liberty, he pulled pieces of metal from the structure of the statue and used them to bind the X-Men to the statue's walls. Near the end of X2 he levitated himself, but he was also wearing clothing of his own choosing, which could easily include metal fibers that would allow him to manipulate it (a known Magneto trick from the comics, btw).

On the Statue of Liberty, Magneto pushed the X-Men against the walls, then wrapped the metal strips around them. He kept the police officers from moving. The one with the bullet stopped in front of him was trying to move, hence the grunts, but couldn't.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-07-01 11:22pm

YT300000 wrote:On the Statue of Liberty, Magneto pushed the X-Men against the walls, then wrapped the metal strips around them.

Not that I remember.

He kept the police officers from moving.

At gunpoint, with their own guns (remember all the floating guns?)

The one with the bullet stopped in front of him was trying to move, hence the grunts, but couldn't.

Terrified. Probably didn't want to HELP Magneto insert the bullet in his head.

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