last chance to retake galaxy

lance · Post by **lance** » 2003-06-29 04:21am

When do you think the last chance for the empire to retake the galaxy was? I Think that it was Daala's skirmish thing. She got stuff running and united like half the empire, so that has got to account for somthing.

Jordie · Post by **Jordie** » 2003-06-29 04:32am

People are gonna kill you for using the past tense.

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2003-06-29 04:49am

Sorry for continuing thread disruption, but why is it wrong to use the past tense to refer to things that supposedly happened a long time ago?

In any case, I think the best chance the Empire had was when the Emperor launched the assault from Byss, including the fall of Coruscant and the wrecking of the Alliance fleet.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2003-06-29 06:18am

Well, the Rebel-Alliance managed to take the galaxy and they were in a much worse condition, than the imperial remnant is now.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-06-29 09:23am

I'd say Daala's assaults in Darksaber were ultimately pointless, and may have only hastened the Empire's decline. All of her attacks were geared towads destruction, not the acquisition of resources and territory. In the end, all she did was lose an Executor(probably an executor anyway could easily have been a wussier heavy ship) and focus the NR's attention on the Imperial remnants.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-29 12:30pm

Right now, in the NJO, the Imperial Remnant is larger than the New Republic, which has been blown to shit by the Yuuzhan Vong. As soon as the Vong are toppled (The Unifying Force) the Remnant will be able to retake the Galaxy without too much trouble. Assuming that Pellaeon changes his mind about peace with the NR.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-06-29 01:56pm

Yes, the last chance was probably Daala's time. But the ultimate hope laid with Thrawn's campaign. Had Leia not gotten a lucky break with the Noghri, who knows what would have happened.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-06-29 02:29pm

Trytostaydead wrote:Yes, the last chance was probably Daala's time. But the ultimate hope laid with Thrawn's campaign. Had Leia not gotten a lucky break with the Noghri, who knows what would have happened.

Thrawn's pathetic Katana Fleet would have been the NR, of course.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-29 04:50pm

YT300000 wrote:Right now, in the NJO, the Imperial Remnant is larger than the New Republic, which has been blown to shit by the Yuuzhan Vong. As soon as the Vong are toppled (The Unifying Force) the Remnant will be able to retake the Galaxy without too much trouble. Assuming that Pellaeon changes his mind about peace with the NR.

Yes, which is why the Republic has multiple major operational shipyards ramping up to full output...and the IR has none.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-06-29 07:01pm

Thrawn was certainly more than capable of seizing the Galaxy. The reborn Emperor was certainly capable of seizing the Galaxy, but I don't think that even at the height of her power Daala could have tried something like that. She simply had too few ships and soldiers.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-06-29 07:04pm

YT300000 wrote:Right now, in the NJO, the Imperial Remnant is larger than the New Republic, which has been blown to shit by the Yuuzhan Vong. As soon as the Vong are toppled (The Unifying Force) the Remnant will be able to retake the Galaxy without too much trouble. Assuming that Pellaeon changes his mind about peace with the NR.

Right now, in the NJO, the NR no longer exists. It has been superceded by the Galactic Alliance.

The remnants of the NR prior to the conversion were MUCH larger and MUCH more powerful than the Imperial Remnant, which comprises only a handful of sectors. The YV routed much of the Imperial fleet with a small group of starships. The Empire is only a dull thorn in their side, compared to the NR's forces, which were substantial enough to actually challenge the YV militarily.

In terms of the Imperial Remnant retaking the Galaxy, don't make me laugh.

The IR has no where NEAR enough forces left to retake the Galaxy.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-29 08:00pm

Not yet. Not yet.

I should become a Star Wars author. Have the Imperial Remnant bring in a bunch of previously unheardof forces from the Unknown Regions and retake the Galaxy.

And kill Jania. I don't like her.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-06-29 08:13pm

I should become a Star Wars author. Have the Imperial Remnant bring in a bunch of previously unheardof forces from the Unknown Regions and retake the Galaxy.

There isn't shit in the Unknown Regions except the Chiss, who would get their asses handed to them any day of the week by the NR, the Galactic Alliance, the Imperial Remnant, and the Yuuzhan Vong.

It wouldn't fit in to introduce some gigantic force from the Unknown Regions (such a group would have long ago crushed the Chiss).

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-06-29 08:36pm

Dark Empire was the last realistic chance I think. After that too much was hung on clever tactics and strategy when the Empire simply did not have the resources to exploit any gains. Kind of like the first and third German drives in 1918.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-29 08:53pm

Durran Korr wrote:
I should become a Star Wars author. Have the Imperial Remnant bring in a bunch of previously unheardof forces from the Unknown Regions and retake the Galaxy.
There isn't shit in the Unknown Regions except the Chiss, who would get their asses handed to them any day of the week by the NR, the Galactic Alliance, the Imperial Remnant, and the Yuuzhan Vong.

It wouldn't fit in to introduce some gigantic force from the Unknown Regions (such a group would have long ago crushed the Chiss).

Well than maybe a force from another Galaxy. Or have the Imperial Remnant massively upscale ship production, then somehow stage a mass-defection.

Anything to make the Empire triumph.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-30 10:57am

YT300000 wrote:Well than maybe a force from another Galaxy.

See Marina's fanfic, but the point-of-divergence is immediately after the fall of Coruscant in that fanfic as opposed to the later point now.

Or have the Imperial Remnant massively upscale ship production, then somehow stage a mass-defection.

Yes, because this puny sector can build more ships than the 3-4 largest operational shipyards in the galaxy, and the Alliance's people are going to defect to the Empire of all people

Anything to make the Empire triumph.