Won`t profit from their crimes

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-29 09:41am

Do the crime won`t make a dime

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-06-29 12:00pm

Montcalm wrote:Do the crime won`t make a dime

This is probably the most ethically correct piece of legislation I've ever seen. A great idea, in my opinion.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-06-29 12:10pm

It's about time someone introduced legislation like this.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-06-29 01:06pm

YEA!!! motherfuckers....now they can't buy anything w00t....~Jason

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-29 02:05pm

it would have been evil-er if the money from the books went to the families of the victims. MWAHAHA

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-06-29 02:20pm

Gee I thought that this had been around for a while.

Son of Sam in the US
Mary Bell in England

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-29 02:42pm

MARY BELL ROCKS. sorry. =x

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-06-29 03:34pm

kojikun wrote:MARY BELL ROCKS. sorry. =x

Everytime I think I can cope with Koji, he says something even more fucked up than the last.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-06-29 08:02pm

I laugh at their misfortune.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-29 08:14pm

Brat: What? I have to admire a 10 year old who can kill two boys then laugh like its nothing. Shes my personal hero. I mean, killing people is bad and all, but to be able to have such mental fortitude to not crack.. man, if only more people were that mentally stable.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-06-29 10:18pm

Well done canadians, you've shown that you can transend media hunger for morality.
Kojikun, anyone who can, kill two other people, then laugh as if it was nothing more than a silly afternoon activity is called a sociopath. She isn't anywhere near mentally stable she's COMPLETELY FUCKING BONKERS!!!!!

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-29 10:50pm

Sadly its just Ontario,i hope it get applied nationwide fast.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-06-29 10:53pm

kojikun wrote:Brat: What? I have to admire a 10 year old who can kill two boys then laugh like its nothing. Shes my personal hero. I mean, killing people is bad and all, but to be able to have such mental fortitude to not crack.. man, if only more people were that mentally stable.

You fucking moron. That's classic sociopathy, not mental stability.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-29 10:55pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:Well done canadians, you've shown that you can transend media hunger for morality.
Kojikun, anyone who can, kill two other people, then laugh as if it was nothing more than a silly afternoon activity is called a sociopath. She isn't anywhere near mentally stable she's COMPLETELY FUCKING BONKERS!!!!!

The drive to kill is why shes bonkers, not the calmness. Humans are bred to kill like every other animal. I don't see wolves or lions having nervous breakdowns when they kill. Only humans have these conditions where killing induces fear and terror and sorrow and remorse, and thats because we're sheltered from these things. The drive to kill, however, if it cannot be controlled, is bad. Being able to strangle someone to death and not think anything of it just makes you a very calm and cool person, it doesnt mean you WANT to strangle someone to death.

Sindai · Post by **Sindai** » 2003-06-29 11:49pm

kojikun wrote:The drive to kill is why shes bonkers, not the calmness. Humans are bred to kill like every other animal. I don't see wolves or lions having nervous breakdowns when they kill. Only humans have these conditions where killing induces fear and terror and sorrow and remorse, and thats because we're sheltered from these things. The drive to kill, however, if it cannot be controlled, is bad. Being able to strangle someone to death and not think anything of it just makes you a very calm and cool person, it doesnt mean you WANT to strangle someone to death.

There's a big difference between killing other animals for food and killing your own species for no particular reason. The first is natural for carnivores and omnivores, while the second is almost always selected against because it harms the species as a whole.

Illuminatus and Syntax are correct in saying that that's one of the classic signs of sociopathy. Empathy for other humans in general is natural, a complete lack of regard for other people as anything more than objects is a mental disorder.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-30 01:30am

Sindai wrote:There's a big difference between killing other animals for food and killing your own species for no particular reason. The first is natural for carnivores and omnivores, while the second is almost always selected against because it harms the species as a whole.

I believe I said that it was the "hey i wanna murder someone" part thats bad.

Illuminatus and Syntax are correct in saying that that's one of the classic signs of sociopathy. Empathy for other humans in general is natural, a complete lack of regard for other people as anything more than objects is a mental disorder.

Its only bad when they start hurting people. For all we know, pure self interest maybe be best for society (shit, I think it is). Its when people start killing other people thats bad, whether theyre psychopaths or not.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-06-30 03:04am

Wow, even I think that sounds assholish, and I'm... well... ME!

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-06-30 10:41am

kojikun wrote:Brat: What? I have to admire a 10 year old who can kill two boys then laugh like its nothing. Shes my personal hero. I mean, killing people is bad and all, but to be able to have such mental fortitude to not crack.. man, if only more people were that mentally stable.

If she is truly your personal hero then you might want to seek out medical help. I don't think that can be considered mental fortitude, and especially cannot be considered as an example for good mental stability. She probably didn't "crack" because she was in her own little dream world of fantasy and illusion.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-06-30 10:48am

kojikun wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote:Well done canadians, you've shown that you can transend media hunger for morality.
Kojikun, anyone who can, kill two other people, then laugh as if it was nothing more than a silly afternoon activity is called a sociopath. She isn't anywhere near mentally stable she's COMPLETELY FUCKING BONKERS!!!!!
The drive to kill is why shes bonkers, not the calmness. Humans are bred to kill like every other animal. I don't see wolves or lions having nervous breakdowns when they kill. Only humans have these conditions where killing induces fear and terror and sorrow and remorse, and thats because we're sheltered from these things. The drive to kill, however, if it cannot be controlled, is bad. Being able to strangle someone to death and not think anything of it just makes you a very calm and cool person, it doesnt mean you WANT to strangle someone to death.

You are wrong dude. First of all people are not bred to kill, if we were the world would be like a old Roman Galdiator ring where survival of the fittest was the law of the land. Survival of the fittest is not the law of the land. Secondly I kill things all the time, I hunt and I do not have a nervous breakdown everytime I kill an animal. Do I feel bad if the animal doesn't die quickly? a little bit because I don't mean to make the animal suffer, but I don't freak out as you suggest people do when they kill something.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-06-30 11:02am

kojikun wrote:
Sindai wrote:There's a big difference between killing other animals for food and killing your own species for no particular reason. The first is natural for carnivores and omnivores, while the second is almost always selected against because it harms the species as a whole.
I believe I said that it was the "hey i wanna murder someone" part thats bad.

But the complete inability to feel remorse, and the desire to emotionally torture the relatives of your murder victim, and the revelling in other people's misery - that's emotionally stable?

Its only bad when they start hurting people. For all we know, pure self interest maybe be best for society (shit, I think it is). Its when people start killing other people thats bad, whether theyre psychopaths or not.

...and how exactly is killing young boys and mocking their grieving parents for the fun of it in anyone's self interest?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-30 01:19pm

innerbrat wrote:But the complete inability to feel remorse, and the desire to emotionally torture the relatives of your murder victim, and the revelling in other people's misery - that's emotionally stable?

Stop combining no remorse and the desire the hurt. Thats NOT THE SAME THING. Besides, humans are vicious creatures. We enjoy killing just as much as any other carnivore does. Own species or not.

...and how exactly is killing young boys and mocking their grieving parents for the fun of it in anyone's self interest?

Didja bother reading where I said "bad when they start hurting people"?

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-06-30 01:49pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:It's about time someone introduced legislation like this.

As noted in the article, such laws have been on the books in the US for years.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-06-30 05:59pm

kojikun wrote:Stop combining no remorse and the desire the hurt. Thats NOT THE SAME THING.

I'm not. I'm describing Mary Bell. Your hero.

Besides, humans are vicious creatures. We enjoy killing just as much as any other carnivore does. Own species or not.

We're not carnivores.
And no, most of us do not enjoy killing our own species.

Didja bother reading where I said "bad when they start hurting people"?

Didja bother even reading anything at all about Mary bell before declaring her to be mentally stable and your all time hero?

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