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The dog eared half-demon with his sword Tetsusaiga versus Jedi Master. Who wins.
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psyburn21 wrote:The dog eared half-demon with his sword Tetsusaiga versus Jedi Master. Who wins.
Probably Yoda. Hard to say for sure.

The Tetsusaiga appears to block pretty much everything, so we can safely say that it'll at least slow down the Lightsaber.

Inu Yasha's agility, speed, and leaping put him roughly on par with most Jedi, though not Yoda's insano-speed.

Strangulation is a toss up. Inu Yasha got suspended by his neck with a hair-thin fiber and wasn't strangled. Didn't even lose consciousness, just got pissed because he couldn't move. This may or may not grant him some defense against a Force Choke.

Mind control is an unknown.

Precog he lacks, plain and simple. He's a good swordsman, but Yoda's ability to predict his movements will make pull victory from defeat near-impossible.

Iron Reaver, while a ranged assault, will not do well against a Muppet who can dodge out of the way.

Blades Of Blood may well work: They have a homing tendency, and the only thing observed to block them is the thick-bladed Tetsusaiga. A Lightsaber, even if it can block them, will let some of the Blades through on either side.

The Wind Scar, sadly, is out of this. While a single blast from it would probably vaporize Yoda, it's impossible as of where he is in the American run, since Yoda is not a Demon and therefore won't generate the Scar.

So Yoda takes it. Against, say, TPM Kenobi, it'd be another story.
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SirNitram wrote: Probably Yoda. Hard to say for sure.

The Tetsusaiga appears to block pretty much everything, so we can safely say that it'll at least slow down the Lightsaber.

Inu Yasha's agility, speed, and leaping put him roughly on par with most Jedi, though not Yoda's insano-speed.

Strangulation is a toss up. Inu Yasha got suspended by his neck with a hair-thin fiber and wasn't strangled. Didn't even lose consciousness, just got pissed because he couldn't move. This may or may not grant him some defense against a Force Choke.

Mind control is an unknown.

Precog he lacks, plain and simple. He's a good swordsman, but Yoda's ability to predict his movements will make pull victory from defeat near-impossible.

Iron Reaver, while a ranged assault, will not do well against a Muppet who can dodge out of the way.

Blades Of Blood may well work: They have a homing tendency, and the only thing observed to block them is the thick-bladed Tetsusaiga. A Lightsaber, even if it can block them, will let some of the Blades through on either side.

The Wind Scar, sadly, is out of this. While a single blast from it would probably vaporize Yoda, it's impossible as of where he is in the American run, since Yoda is not a Demon and therefore won't generate the Scar.

So Yoda takes it. Against, say, TPM Kenobi, it'd be another story.
What I find funny about this post is that you limit Inu-Yasha's abilities, but give Yoda every opportunity to use abilities that he'd never do(ie. Force choke). There's no reason for you not considering Inu-Yasha at the point h's reached in Japan. The only explanation I can think of is you trying to find ways for Yoda to win this fight. You know he master the Tetsusaiga, as well as has a full demon form. You didn't even acknowledge these things, I have to wonder why?

BTW, Yoda is not faster than Inu-Yasha. Yoda's speed is great when compared to a human, but there ain't a Jedi or Sith as fast as a dog-demon based on what we've seen.

And what's this crap about the Wind Scar? Yoda may not be what you'd consider a demon, but he sure as shit ain't human. The Wind Scar is more likely to work than not to.
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Shinigami wrote:What I find funny about this post is that you limit Inu-Yasha's abilities, but give Yoda every opportunity to use abilities that he'd never do(ie. Force choke). There's no reason for you not considering Inu-Yasha at the point h's reached in Japan.
Or.. Dun dun dun... I can only watch the Dub by Ocean Group, and don't know his powers over there. If you would like to list his powers over there, though, you had better post major spoiler warnings.
The only explanation I can think of is you trying to find ways for Yoda to win this fight. You know he master the Tetsusaiga, as well as has a full demon form. You didn't even acknowledge these things, I have to wonder why?
Never heard of them. And I don't like spoilers, so don't blab about them. The concept that not everyone is watching a Sub or fluent enough in Japanese to watch the originals must be beyond your primitive brain.
BTW, Yoda is not faster than Inu-Yasha. Yoda's speed is great when compared to a human, but there ain't a Jedi or Sith as fast as a dog-demon based on what we've seen.
Actually, Moroko and Inu Yasha's speed in a dead sprint is equal to the Jedi Speed in TPM, roughly highway speed. Inu Yasha might be slightly faster(As he can keep pace with a Japanese Bullet Train), but it will not be by orders of magnitude. Even still, he's never moved like Yoda did vs. Dooku.
And what's this crap about the Wind Scar? Yoda may not be what you'd consider a demon, but he sure as shit ain't human. The Wind Scar is more likely to work than not to.
The Wind Scar is stated to be formed by the dark energy of demons. It might form when exposed to a Dark Side user, but unless Yoda starts pulling out his Dark Side techniques(Which he does have - Read the AOTC novelization), he is unlikely to generate the whirlwind required.

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The Wound of the Wind is formed by the interaction of IY's and his opponent's youki (youkai ki) auras. Skillwise, IY's swordsmanship utterly sucks, but the Tetsusaiga (his huge sword)'s powers and his own superhuman abilities should more than make up for it. Sucks to be fighting someone wearing a heatproof outfit with wide range projectiles, a massive shield/weapon, superhuman speed and strength, and a leaping ability that makes a Jedi look like a toddler with broken legs...


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Around Episode 50, he gains the ability to launch it without needing the interaction, and can send it flying many times in a row without getting tired, though it does *eventually* drain him. He also gains the nifty ability to turn the energy of his opponent's energy blasts against them to tear them apart with one or more fairly slim tornadoes, as long as a) he intercepts one of their shots (doesn't work with punches and kicks), and b) IY's ki is stronger than his opponent's. Considering that the first time he uses that ability he overwhelms an energy ball that was casually blowing through multiple mountain tops, I'd say that Yoda is unlikely to be generating more energy than that, though since he doesn't really use Force Lightning himself, IY's unlikely to find a use for the Bakuryuuha, unless TK or lightsabers count as energy attacks.
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SirNitram wrote:Or.. Dun dun dun... I can only watch the Dub by Ocean Group, and don't know his powers over there. If you would like to list his powers over there, though, you had better post major spoiler warnings.
I haven't seen these episodes either, but there's a book titled "The Art of Inu-Yasha". I've read some of it, and it can easily be found in a Waldenbooks. Not to mention, any of this info could be found on the internet, so there's really no excuse. Don't get all pissy at me cause you're too stupid to do research before posting your ignorant assumptions.
Never heard of them. And I don't like spoilers, so don't blab about them. The concept that not everyone is watching a Sub or fluent enough in Japanese to watch the originals must be beyond your primitive brain.
I've already proven this to be a load of horse-shit, so I'll let you stew in your stupidity.
Actually, Moroko and Inu Yasha's speed in a dead sprint is equal to the Jedi Speed in TPM, roughly highway speed. Inu Yasha might be slightly faster(As he can keep pace with a Japanese Bullet Train), but it will not be by orders of magnitude. Even still, he's never moved like Yoda did vs. Dooku.
That's just rabid fanboyism talking. I can do 98% of what Yoda did in that fight, so can any capable martial artist. Save that shit for the physically impaired. Inu-Yasha is faster.
The Wind Scar is stated to be formed by the dark energy of demons. It might form when exposed to a Dark Side user, but unless Yoda starts pulling out his Dark Side techniques(Which he does have - Read the AOTC novelization), he is unlikely to generate the whirlwind required.
Doesn't change the fact that he's not human. You know as well as I do that even if he was, it wouldn't matter. Sessho-maru nearly killed everyone when he had the Tetsusaiga, not just Inu-Yasha. Therefore, any Wind Scar attack would kill Yoda.
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I'd love to see you try. :twisted:
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Shinigami wrote:
SirNitram wrote:Or.. Dun dun dun... I can only watch the Dub by Ocean Group, and don't know his powers over there. If you would like to list his powers over there, though, you had better post major spoiler warnings.
I haven't seen these episodes either, but there's a book titled "The Art of Inu-Yasha". I've read some of it, and it can easily be found in a Waldenbooks. Not to mention, any of this info could be found on the internet, so there's really no excuse. Don't get all pissy at me cause you're too stupid to do research before posting your ignorant assumptions.

Oh yes.. Because I don't post spoilers for the American audience, I'm not doing my part. Whatever. :roll: Insofar as the American run, my post is accurate.
Never heard of them. And I don't like spoilers, so don't blab about them. The concept that not everyone is watching a Sub or fluent enough in Japanese to watch the originals must be beyond your primitive brain.
I've already proven this to be a load of horse-shit, so I'll let you stew in your stupidity.
Uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that.
Actually, Moroko and Inu Yasha's speed in a dead sprint is equal to the Jedi Speed in TPM, roughly highway speed. Inu Yasha might be slightly faster(As he can keep pace with a Japanese Bullet Train), but it will not be by orders of magnitude. Even still, he's never moved like Yoda did vs. Dooku.
That's just rabid fanboyism talking. I can do 98% of what Yoda did in that fight, so can any capable martial artist. Save that shit for the physically impaired. Inu-Yasha is faster.
You can stop hundreds of pounds of rock with your mind? You can deflect dark sorcery? You can bounce around like a frog on speed? You can wield a sword with zero weight and a lethal edge? You can block Christoper Lee? I somehow doubt that. If you want to prove he's faster, name the episode he moved faster than Yoda.
The Wind Scar is stated to be formed by the dark energy of demons. It might form when exposed to a Dark Side user, but unless Yoda starts pulling out his Dark Side techniques(Which he does have - Read the AOTC novelization), he is unlikely to generate the whirlwind required.
Doesn't change the fact that he's not human. You know as well as I do that even if he was, it wouldn't matter. Sessho-maru nearly killed everyone when he had the Tetsusaiga, not just Inu-Yasha. Therefore, any Wind Scar attack would kill Yoda.
But it cannot be activated, as Inu Yasha stands in the American run, without the dark energy. Assuming Yoda is not a moron, and refrains from Dark Side techniques, the Wind Scar cannot be unleashed.
I trust that you will not be such a dick as to start posting spoilers for those of us patiently waiting on Ocean Group. If you do, I will be forced to make sure you languish slowly and painfully in the Sewer.
I'd love to see you try. :twisted:
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Did the OP specifically state this was the american run version of IY?
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keflex wrote:Did the OP specifically state this was the american run version of IY?
No, that's why I stated I was using the American run.
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From what I can tell, Koga is the fastest demon in that universe. And in the later episodes, Inuyasha does have problems matching Koga's speed. However, this is only becasue Koga posssesses three jewel shards (one on each leg and one on his right wrist). So I kinda question Inuyasha's speed facing Yoda (at least in the episodes played in the US). Then again, I never stated that I was using the American version of Inuyasha either.

As for the Wind Scar, if it has to be proven that an anime power would work against a jedi, then there's really no need in even having the debate in the first place. May be it's just me from having debate people on other boards for so long, but this is the only board that I know of that does this.
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So OP states that it's the most recent version of IY that's to be used for this debate?
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psyburn21 wrote:From what I can tell, Koga is the fastest demon in that universe. And in the later episodes, Inuyasha does have problems matching Koga's speed. However, this is only becasue Koga posssesses three jewel shards (one on each leg and one on his right wrist). So I kinda question Inuyasha's speed facing Yoda (at least in the episodes played in the US). Then again, I never stated that I was using the American version of Inuyasha either.

As for the Wind Scar, if it has to be proven that an anime power would work against a jedi, then there's really no need in even having the debate in the first place. May be it's just me from having debate people on other boards for so long, but this is the only board that I know of that does this.
Oh, I don't claim it won't work.. Yoda getting hit with the Scar would be pretty much fatal. The problem is, as far as I've seen in the series(And thus as far as I can comment), it requires the dark energy of a Demon interacting with the wind to generate the Scar. While it's conceivable that Yoda using Dark Side powers would generate the Scar, one can probably assume he won't open himself up to assault like that.
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keflex wrote:So OP states that it's the most recent version of IY that's to be used for this debate?
Ok, we'll have two debates. One using the American version (ending at ep. 50-52) and one using the japanese version (ending at ep. 115-120, plus the movie)
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psyburn21 wrote:From what I can tell, Koga is the fastest demon in that universe. And in the later episodes, Inuyasha does have problems matching Koga's speed. However, this is only becasue Koga posssesses three jewel shards (one on each leg and one on his right wrist). So I kinda question Inuyasha's speed facing Yoda (at least in the episodes played in the US). Then again, I never stated that I was using the American version of Inuyasha either.

As for the Wind Scar, if it has to be proven that an anime power would work against a jedi, then there's really no need in even having the debate in the first place. May be it's just me from having debate people on other boards for so long, but this is the only board that I know of that does this.
Well, I don't know if it's been shown in America yet, but since it's not really much of a spoiler, I should point out that one of Naraku's detatchments is fast enough to run circles around Kouga...
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Here's some things from an old thread where I posted a few of Inu Yasha's abilities. (Being from a few months back, some of things listed as spoilers for those who only watched the American version aren't anymore.)
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Cyborg Stan wrote:Here's some things from an old thread where I posted a few of Inu Yasha's abilities. (Being from a few months back, some of things listed as spoilers for those who only watched the American version aren't anymore.)
Thanks, that really helps.
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psyburn21 wrote:From what I can tell, Koga is the fastest demon in that universe. And in the later episodes, Inuyasha does have problems matching Koga's speed. However, this is only becasue Koga posssesses three jewel shards (one on each leg and one on his right wrist). So I kinda question Inuyasha's speed facing Yoda (at least in the episodes played in the US). Then again, I never stated that I was using the American version of Inuyasha either.

As for the Wind Scar, if it has to be proven that an anime power would work against a jedi, then there's really no need in even having the debate in the first place. May be it's just me from having debate people on other boards for so long, but this is the only board that I know of that does this.
Well, I don't know if it's been shown in America yet, but since it's not really much of a spoiler, I should point out that one of Naraku's detatchments is fast enough to run circles around Kouga...
Up to Koga's introduction (where he kidnapped Kagome) has been played in America. And with what you said, it's goes to prove that Naraku is far stronger than most would give him credit for.
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You know, I think I recall somebody mentioning Inuyasha being slammed into the moon and creating a crateor worthy of Angel Arms and surviving without too much damage...

But then this is second hand info from some anime freaks. I'm inclined to go with Inu...

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SirNitram wrote:
The only explanation I can think of is you trying to find ways for Yoda to win this fight. You know he master the Tetsusaiga, as well as has a full demon form. You didn't even acknowledge these things, I have to wonder why?
Never heard of them. And I don't like spoilers, so don't blab about them. The concept that not everyone is watching a Sub or fluent enough in Japanese to watch the originals must be beyond your primitive brain.
You do know that the Tetsusaiga was been introduced in the american dub yet, correct?
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SirNitram wrote:
The only explanation I can think of is you trying to find ways for Yoda to win this fight. You know he master the Tetsusaiga, as well as has a full demon form. You didn't even acknowledge these things, I have to wonder why?
Never heard of them. And I don't like spoilers, so don't blab about them. The concept that not everyone is watching a Sub or fluent enough in Japanese to watch the originals must be beyond your primitive brain.
You do know that the Tetsusaiga was been introduced in the american dub yet, correct?
Yes. However, 'mastering' it, from the way he's babbling on, implies more than what I mentioned. Because, if you actually paid attention, I mention the Iron Reaving Fang in the post and all of it's powers up to the American Run. The fact he criticized me suggests he meant something more.
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SirNitram wrote:
ShinjiGohan wrote:
SirNitram wrote: Never heard of them. And I don't like spoilers, so don't blab about them. The concept that not everyone is watching a Sub or fluent enough in Japanese to watch the originals must be beyond your primitive brain.
You do know that the Tetsusaiga was been introduced in the american dub yet, correct?
Yes. However, 'mastering' it, from the way he's babbling on, implies more than what I mentioned. Because, if you actually paid attention, I mention the Iron Reaving Fang in the post and all of it's powers up to the American Run. The fact he criticized me suggests he meant something more.
Well, mastering the Tetsusaiga was all in seeing the Wind Scar. Both the guy that created it and Inuyasha both said that.
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SPOILER


Technically, he mastered it even further when he gained power surpassing his father's in the battle against Ryuutotsei, made Tetsusaiga light again, learned the Bakuryuuha, and lost his dependence on aura interaction to produce the Kaze no Kizu (Wind Scar).



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The Drunkard Kid wrote:SPOILER


Technically, he mastered it even further when he gained power surpassing his father's in the battle against Ryuutotsei, made Tetsusaiga light again, learned the Bakuryuuha, and lost his dependence on aura interaction to produce the Kaze no Kizu (Wind Scar).



ENDSPOILER
That equals Yoda being totally screwed.
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