Some things you just can't imagine happening (anime-related)

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-06-29 08:47pm

Hey, you brought up the lesbian possibilities. I looked at the pics in a perfectly innocuous light until you mentioned "lesbian."

Really, I did!

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2003-06-29 08:49pm

Sorry, I've been around too many slash obsessors lately!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-29 08:52pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Hey, you brought up the lesbian possibilities. I looked at the pics in a perfectly innocuous light until you mentioned "lesbian."

Really, I did!

Hey, don't look at me! I was looking at it from that way, too. It wasn't until Saurencaerthai that I thought that others might be thinking about it differently.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-06-30 12:12am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The manga is non-canon, actually.

While the manga is interesting, Sadamoto makes some really weird alterations with the story and themes. I don't think that he had a better grasp on Eva then Anno, especially given that Anno created Eva in the first place.

Of course it's not canon, but it does do a much better job of illustrating just how bad things are and how much suffering is happening because of these events in the characters lives. After all, in the anime, you never really got to know much about Suzuhara and when he dies it's bad, but it's not a devestating event because you don't associate with him, but more with Shinji, since it's shown as more of a disaster from him than anyone else. In the manga, when he dies, it's completely crushing, because Sadamoto allowed you to see Toji as a character, with motivations and relationships that drive the events up until his death. Suddenly, you realize the magnitude of what happened and it effects everyone. The manga does this sort of character development for most of the characters in the story, and thus is a hundred times more effective than the anime is. Anno, despite inventing it, never really gave the world and the characters within it nearly as rich and complex a history. If nothing else, the manga makes the anime far more complete. The anime simply doesn't convey the end of the world as well, nor does it bother developing much of it's cast, which is a shame.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-30 12:29am

Suzuhara didn't die, though...

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-06-30 03:11am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Wait a minute, you guys aren't thinking that this picture is implying a lesbian connection between Asuka and Rei, are you?

I guess you completly missed my comment about tATu.....

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2003-06-30 03:28am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Suzuhara didn't die, though...

In the anime, no. He seemed to lose part of a leg and possibly an arm, though, and I don't think we ever saw him (or even had real mention of him) after that scene of him in the hopsital.
In the manga, though, he does die, and it more deeply affects Shinji. He blames both himself and his father for murdering his best friend. Merely injuring him in the anime doesn't seem to have the lasting effect that Sadamoto seems to be going for in the manga.

David · Post by **David** » 2003-06-30 03:43am

Thread moved......

Methinks Spanky has an Evangelion fetish. Good thing these people aren't real, or Spanky would be just like --Leia--.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-06-30 07:00am

Shadowhawk wrote:In the anime, no. He seemed to lose part of a leg and possibly an arm, though, and I don't think we ever saw him (or even had real mention of him) after that scene of him in the hopsital.
In the manga, though, he does die, and it more deeply affects Shinji. He blames both himself and his father for murdering his best friend. Merely injuring him in the anime doesn't seem to have the lasting effect that Sadamoto seems to be going for in the manga.

Too true. It was a far more important event for Suzuhara to die, because it carried alot more emotional issues with it than him simply being badly hurt and then never seen again.

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2003-06-30 06:28pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Too true. It was a far more important event for Suzuhara to die, because it carried alot more emotional issues with it than him simply being badly hurt and then never seen again.

Yea. And those last two pages in Volume 6...whew.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-30 06:37pm

Whatever. I just don't care about the manga much, since it isn't official.

David: I don't have a fetish. I'm just simply the Eva Expert here.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-06-30 07:37pm

Oh, so that's where this thread went.

David wrote:Methinks Spanky has an Evangelion fetish. Good thing these people aren't real, or Spanky would be just like --Leia--.

I don't know about that. He'd be going after jailbait, and for some reason I just can't picture him doing that.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-30 07:47pm

Of course not. What, David, do you think I'm some kind of pervert that would go after fourteen-year-old girls? I'm 21, for Christ's sake...

Besides, if I did have an Eva fetish, I would have thought that the picture was depicting Asuka and Rei as lesbians and not as friends...

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-07-02 07:07pm

And these two are from what?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-02 08:56pm

The 1995 anime TV series Neon Genesis Evangelion.

The girl with blue hair is Rei Ayanami, and the red head is Asuka Langley Soryu.

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-07-02 10:12pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The 1995 anime TV series Neon Genesis Evangelion.

The girl with blue hair is Rei Ayanami, and the red head is Asuka Langley Soryu.

The series any good?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-02 10:17pm

Well, it is considered to be of the best anime series ever made...

It's excellent as long as you're not a moron.

PS: Just keep in mind that the two films are the offical and actual ending.

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-07-02 10:44pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it is considered to be of the best anime series ever made...

It's excellent as long as you're not a moron.

PS: Just keep in mind that the two films are the offical and actual ending.

Hmm I'll have to keep an eye out for it then.
Thanx for the info.

Mutant Headcrab · Post by **Mutant Headcrab** » 2003-07-02 11:59pm

LT.Hit-Man wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it is considered to be of the best anime series ever made...

It's excellent as long as you're not a moron.

PS: Just keep in mind that the two films are the offical and actual ending.
Hmm I'll have to keep an eye out for it then.
Thanx for the info.

Dont try to watch the movies first though. Youll end up wondering what the hell just happened half way thrpugh. Trust me, I know

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-03 12:38am

And watch it in Japanese with subtitles. The English dub is quite subpar.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-07-03 12:40am

Mutant Headcrab wrote:Dont try to watch the movies first though. Youll end up wondering what the hell just happened half way thrpugh. Trust me, I know

Well, Death & Rebirth were a synopsis of the TV series, only setting the stage for EoE. So as long as you don't start with EoE, you'll be fine.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-07-03 01:03am

I think we all know what my recommendation would be here.

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-07-03 10:59am

LT.Hit-Man wrote:The series any good?

No. It's full of rediculous biblical and freudian metaphors.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-03 01:14pm

Baron Mordo wrote:
LT.Hit-Man wrote:The series any good?
No. It's full of rediculous biblical and freudian metaphors.

Only if you're an idiot, that is...

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-07-03 11:00pm

Didn't Eva's animation budget run incredibly low about three-quarters of the way into it?

I heard that one of the reasons the final version of EoE took so long to come out was that GAINAX was waiting to get enough Eva merchandise revenue to pay for it.