Jedi death

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-30 10:46am

Something i`m trying to understand,in SW ANH when Oni Wan dies he disapear,in ROTJ Yoda disapear too,in TPM Qui Gon does not disapear and in AOTC all the Jedis who died do not disapear,so is it that they do not accept their death or is the disapearance works only for a certain type of Jedi.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-30 11:29am

Isn't this supposed to be answered in Ep. 3?

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2003-06-30 11:52am

I hear it has something to do with rank. Yoda and Obi-Wan were both good Masters, however Qui-Gon is a little rebellious. In Ep I Obi-Wan comments on the fact that Qui-Gon could be on the council if he would only obey ?

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2003-07-01 03:58am

It seems to have something to do with letting yourself die, notice how both Obi-Wan and Yoda, the ones who dissapeared, let themselves go?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-07-01 10:28am

Hethrir wrote:I hear it has something to do with rank. Yoda and Obi-Wan were both good Masters, however Qui-Gon is a little rebellious. In Ep I Obi-Wan comments on the fact that Qui-Gon could be on the council if he would only obey ?

Since we hear Qui-Gon's voice in AOTC does that mean that he later disappeared? Or that even the body doesn't have to disappear for a jedi to become a spirit.

I also heard that he was supposed to appear in the movie as a ghost, but Neeson was in an accident so couldn't do it. That true?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-01 12:09pm

neoolong wrote:Isn't this supposed to be answered in Ep. 3?

Yes, it is.

neoolong wrote:Since we hear Qui-Gon's voice in AOTC does that mean that he later disappeared?

I don't know, but Neeson will be in Episode III, as a spirit, not as a voice like in AotC.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-07-01 12:20pm

Something of interest about the spirits of Jedi. In RotJ when Obi-Wan talks to Luke for the last time on Dagobah, when he is walking towards Luke, Obi-Wan pushes some vines off to the side to get past them.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-07-01 01:43pm

Captain_Cyran wrote:Something of interest about the spirits of Jedi. In RotJ when Obi-Wan talks to Luke for the last time on Dagobah, when he is walking towards Luke, Obi-Wan pushes some vines off to the side to get past them.

Well, they also are walking on the ground and not just floating. So they seem to have some physicality to them.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-07-01 01:58pm

neoolong wrote:
Hethrir wrote:I hear it has something to do with rank. Yoda and Obi-Wan were both good Masters, however Qui-Gon is a little rebellious. In Ep I Obi-Wan comments on the fact that Qui-Gon could be on the council if he would only obey ?
Since we hear Qui-Gon's voice in AOTC does that mean that he later disappeared? Or that even the body doesn't have to disappear for a jedi to become a spirit.

I also heard that he was supposed to appear in the movie as a ghost, but Neeson was in an accident so couldn't do it. That true?

Vader didn't disappear, but we still saw his spirit at the end of RotJ.

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-07-01 02:03pm

observer_20000 wrote:It seems to have something to do with letting yourself die, notice how both Obi-Wan and Yoda, the ones who dissapeared, let themselves go?

I agree... they were all prepared for their deaths... even vadar was.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-07-01 02:08pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Hethrir wrote:I hear it has something to do with rank. Yoda and Obi-Wan were both good Masters, however Qui-Gon is a little rebellious. In Ep I Obi-Wan comments on the fact that Qui-Gon could be on the council if he would only obey ?
Since we hear Qui-Gon's voice in AOTC does that mean that he later disappeared? Or that even the body doesn't have to disappear for a jedi to become a spirit.

I also heard that he was supposed to appear in the movie as a ghost, but Neeson was in an accident so couldn't do it. That true?
Vader didn't disappear, but we still saw his spirit at the end of RotJ.

Actually I thought he disappeared some time after Luke left, and they only burned his suit.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-07-01 05:15pm

neoolong wrote:Actually I thought he disappeared some time after Luke left, and they only burned his suit.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

That is correct as far as i know