Epic battle video game question

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2003-07-01 07:05pm

After watching AOTC again, the ending battle struck the same chord in me that the ROTJ deathstar assault did and many a movies large scale battle's do. So here's the question: are their any games that can pull off that effect in a 1st/3rd person setting? Freespace comes close to epic space battles, as does Homeworld, but I want a ground battle. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-07-01 07:07pm

Total Annihilation + Core Contingency

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-07-01 07:10pm

Shinova wrote:Total Annihilation + Core Contingency

::salivates::

KRo-gofff.....arm....dreadnought.....Vulcan.......BOOM

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-07-01 07:12pm

BF1942's intro does a decent job of it

Hmmm, also the Brood Wars Intro did an Excellent Job of protraying war

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-07-01 07:12pm

Dragonforce... mmmm i will get back to you with others

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-07-01 07:12pm

Epic ground battles? Hmm... you may want to try Rise of Nations, possibly Battlefield 1942 if you're into FPSs... Gettysburg/Antietam for Civil War stuff... Blitzkrieg and Sudden Strike 2 for WWII and finally Medieval: Total War for some good medieval shizzle.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-01 07:16pm

Shinova wrote:Total Annihilation + Core Contingency

Combine with seven AI's, 500+ unit patch and a metal map

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-07-01 07:19pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Shinova wrote:Total Annihilation + Core Contingency
Combine with seven AI's, 500+ unit patch and a metal map

seven AIs? how does that work? a patch?

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-07-01 07:37pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Shinova wrote:Total Annihilation + Core Contingency
Combine with seven AI's, 500+ unit patch and a metal map

Where do I get that 500+ unit patch again?

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-07-01 07:38pm

Shinova wrote:Total Annihilation + Core Contingency

I don't think anything gets more epic than that...

RadiO · Post by **RadiO** » 2003-07-01 08:36pm

Unreal Tournament with Monster Madness? You and 16 bots against up to 125 respawning Unreal monsters acting as a team, on any UT map. It's cheap, it's a lot of fun, and on the right map it's nothing short of epic.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-01 09:17pm

Red Alert 1 can get close. It helps to edit the rules.ini to allow for more units on the map - I think the default limit is 500 units, but I cranked mine up to 2500 recently and it runs fine.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-07-01 09:26pm

Howedar wrote:Red Alert 1 can get close. It helps to edit the rules.ini to allow for more units on the map - I think the default limit is 500 units, but I cranked mine up to 2500 recently and it runs fine.

Can you do a similar thing with ra2 do you know?

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-07-01 09:37pm

Mr Bean wrote:BF1942's intro does a decent job of it

Hmmm, also the Brood Wars Intro did an Excellent Job of protraying war

I agree on both those points. Brood War wasn't the best game, but the intro kicked ass.

Howedar wrote:Red Alert 1 can get close. It helps to edit the rules.ini to allow for more units on the map - I think the default limit is 500 units, but I cranked mine up to 2500 recently and it runs fine.

CnC ALL THE WAY!! Ra1 had the best battle "feel", I think. Since that, you had to think more about what to build (25+ units per side in RA2) than going and blowing stuff up. In RA1, you just clicked on your selected tank about 50 times, and then go play with the enemies base. Hours of fun

Datana · Post by **Datana** » 2003-07-02 03:23am

If by 1st/3rd person you mean FPS or action, probably the best "epic battle" I've seen in a game is the Aumaan gate battle in Zone of the Enders 2. Essentially, it's you and 41 other units against close to a thousand enemies, who come in massive waves that are thick enough that you'll hit something hostile regardless of where you shoot at. Unfortunately, this effect is somewhat spoiled by the fact that 40 of your 41 allies can't fight worth beans (their guns have a lousy refire rate and they get mobbed easily), leaving you as the main combatant and the other competent unit (the Vic Viper, of Gradius fame) flying around healing everyone else instead of fighting. Still, it manages to reproduce the feel of a battlefield in utter chaos.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-07-02 08:35am

EPIC is, for me, co-operative Serious Sam with, say, a shitload of teammates against the unwavering thousands of incoming enemies, some of which top a hundred feet tall.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-07-02 09:04am

*WARNING; DUST-AND-COBWEBS-COVERED POST*

Well, the last mission of Syndicate (NOT Syndicate Wars, I'm talking about the original) was on the Atlanctic reseach center, your 4 agents against hundreds of enemy agents, guards and police.
Those that escaped the initial laser fire and gauss guns were latter killed by the time bombs conveniently left by their comrades, AND if somehow they did survive, I would present them with my miniguns.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2003-07-02 09:21am

Rye wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Shinova wrote:Total Annihilation + Core Contingency
Combine with seven AI's, 500+ unit patch and a metal map
seven AIs? how does that work? a patch?

In skirmish mode battle screen (were you set up the game, before hitting start) Hold down the following keys: SHIFT, 8, X

That allows for ten players in a skirmish game.

Captain_Cyran wrote: Where do I get that 500+ unit patch again?

Stuff the 500 unit patch. Get the 5000 unit patch here. This is patch alters 4 bytes in the exe. If you host a game with the 5k patch, any body can use the 5k unit limit for that game.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-07-02 10:03am

Warspite wrote:*WARNING; DUST-AND-COBWEBS-COVERED POST*

Well, the last mission of Syndicate (NOT Syndicate Wars, I'm talking about the original) was on the Atlanctic reseach center, your 4 agents against hundreds of enemy agents, guards and police.
Those that escaped the initial laser fire and gauss guns were latter killed by the time bombs conveniently left by their comrades, AND if somehow they did survive, I would present them with my miniguns.

HELL YEAH! The atlantic accelerator! Oh man, I almost forgot how cool that mission was!

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-07-02 10:25am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:HELL YEAH! The atlantic accelerator! Oh man, I almost forgot how cool that mission was!

Only downer in that game was the win scene after atlantic accelerator

That one sucked so hard....

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-07-03 07:03am

Cossacks?

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-07-03 09:22pm

Shogun and Medieval.

Another great one for sweeping battles was always Operation Flashpoint, I once made an Armoured Company vs Armoured Company map. Not fun.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-07-03 10:51pm

MEDIEVAL: TOTAL WAR

DEATH TO THE TURKISH INSURGENTS! ROMA VICTOR!

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2003-07-04 09:48pm

I have Operation:Flashpoint, and TA, looks like I'll be getting the total war series. Now if they'd just make a scifi one....or vietnam.....

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2003-07-05 12:55am

Ta with Uberhack 3.6
Just finished a game a couple of hours ago 3000 kills in under 2 hours. Smell the carnage. Large games with multiple people have been known to go on for 24+ hours. Kill counts reach the hundred thousands and sleep deprivation becomes the main enemy (remembers days of TA lan parties).