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Patrick Degan wrote:Well, what else can you expect from a Right Wing Clown? 8)
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Stravo wrote:OMG, those silly Italians. Seriously what is it about their government, if its not that their corrupt, its that they've elected a porn star into the legislature or that they have mafia issues.
What government?
The amazing thing about the italians is that their civil society is so strong, it works with or without a government.
It is well-known in the arena international politics that the Italian government exists in name only. Italians are too busy enjoying life to have a functional government.
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Patrick Degan wrote:Well, what else can you expect from a Right Wing Clown? 8)
*NO*

The Evil Right Wing Clown-Nazi sect of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been unearthed. They are very extreemist, even by our standards, and the big shoes and honking nose don't help matters.
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Nathan F wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:Well, what else can you expect from a Right Wing Clown? 8)
The Evil Right Wing Clown-Nazi sect of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been unearthed. They are very extreemist, even by our standards, and the big shoes and honking nose don't help matters.
So, would a Right-Wing Clown be an elephant entertaining at children's birthday parties?
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I think Italy should try that city-state thing they had going earlier, it works so much better. Except this time don't let the Pope run around with his land, give it back to Greece.
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Nathan F wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:Well, what else can you expect from a Right Wing Clown? 8)
*NO*

The Evil Right Wing Clown-Nazi sect of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been unearthed. They are very extreemist, even by our standards, and the big shoes and honking nose don't help matters.
And you should see them goose step in their clown pants. :lol:
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EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote:A curious though about the topic.

I read the article, and to sayt he called the man a nazi is a lie.

He said the man should play a nazi in a movie, because he would be perfect for the part.


Play a nazi, is a nazi. NOT same same.
Difference lost on some, not matter to others.
Some are stupid, some are dishonest.

Any county that can elect a porn star, has to be doing something right.
I understand she used to give speaches, while topless, and had the highest quorum count during her speaking of any legislator ever.
It is a terrible thing what Berlusconi did.
To liken someone to a Nazi, in a parliament, is abhorrent. And saying to someone Nazi, or just compare him with a Nazi, is the utmost insult you can do in and to a German.
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I'm sure he's been called worse. By better. He's a politician.


"You are perfect for the part of a nazi in a movie. " Looks, manerisms, sound of voice.

"You are like a nazi." Actions, policies, beliefs.

NOT THE SAME.
The goal of the insult, was to paint a picture of a raving lunatic, spitting and shouting with enthusiasm, exagerated melodramatic gestures puctuatings his passionate ravings.
The caricature of a Hitler speach.
If the scum said the German was a fascist, or nazi, he would be saying something diffferent.


This man is a criminal, and corrupt. This much is certain.
The wahh wahhs of these babies is funny.
Calling a political opponent a nazi is now par for the coarse if you are a "progressive."

Where was the outcry when leftys in Europe called GWB a nazi directly?
Not like one, IS one, with pictures of him in the uniforms.
Do Germans have some sort of special immunity to this particular insult?


More to the point, is the blatant misrepresenting of what the scum actualy SAID, is what gets me.The false outrage. The thin skin. Grow up people.
You will hear far worse as time goes by, and the level of vileness needed to shock goes up.
This is a tempest in a teapot.
Hmmmmmm.

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->EmperorChrostas the Cruel

I don't think that you grasp the context.

The equivalent in american politics would be for president GWB saying that Senator Clinton should be perfect for the filmrole of a Communist whore in a congressional debate.

There is a HUGE difference between what the PUBLIC is allowed to say about different elected leaders, and between, what the elected leaders are allowed to say to each other.

You will notice that even though France and the USA had some political bickering about the war in Iraq neither GOVERNEMENT trashtalked eachother directly.
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If someone called Hillory Clinton a communist for the first time, then they would have to travel backwards in time to do it, beause it was being done when Bill was pres. Same with Bill. She was being called a commie back when she proposed "Hillorycare". The whore part is merely undignified. Besides, whores have to have men WANTING to have sex with them bad enough to pay them MONEY.
Hillory is REGULALY called commie, and your point is?(No one is wanting to pay the price for Hillory's ass. Like Janeway, only the sickos see her as a sex object.)
Hill, and Billory are called commies all the time, but only the rabid ones. You know, the mirror image of the crowd that REGLARLY calls GWB a nazi?
You have to choose an insult that even MIGHT be possible.
A funny thing happened in the last 15 years. The term nazi has been so over used by the demonisers, that it has unfortunatly lost it's power to evoke the horror it should.


Given that this comes from a country that has had an ex pornstar for legislator, giving topless speaches is parliament, you are asking far too much restraint, in the venue of PERSONAL INSULTS.
What he said was INTENDED to be offencive. Like MOST insults.I am surprised his momma didn't enter the speech. It would have, if the insulted one was an American black.

I think politicians should be LESS careful about their insults, and comments. The whole over rehersed sanitized don't possibly offend anyone pap actualy CONCEILS the true workings of our elected ones.
I cheered when the Italian polo whose name escapes me at the moment, said that European culture is superior to many other cultures.
Many gasped at the man having the balls to state the obvious, but un PC truth.. Some cultures ARE inferior, and or nasty and no great loss if they vanished.

Case and point, the Spanish and the Aztecs. The world is a better place for the lack of Aztec culture, fucking stone age human sacrificing assholes. Never figured out the wheel thing, did they?(Open up your heart and let the sun shine in!)
European, secular, human rights oriented culture IS superior to jihad nontech, camel rider, NOMADIC culture.
Nomads suck ass, whatever the color of the people. NOTHING of great consequence is ever made by nomads, because it takes TIME to build big things, and spare resourses.
Nomads see others as a compettition for scarce resouses, and usualy hostile, larcenous, murderous, and generaly hostile/suspicious to outsiders.
Civilised folk, (meaning literaly city dwellers)get to own things too big to carry. When you will live next to someone, for your whole life, you can't just victimise them once, and never see them again.(until your city gets above a certain size, and law enforcement become needed, an option not open to nomads.)

North American Indians were the same way. Some were nomadic, some were civilised. The nomadic ones considered stealing from the city ones the same as hunting, or gathering. The civil ones were considered a resourse, for food, horses and women. Fucking barbarians.
Slavery seems done by both, but the civil ones could feed theirs better, so they had more of them.
Hmmmmmm.

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Durandal wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:Well, what else can you expect from a Right Wing Clown? 8)
The Evil Right Wing Clown-Nazi sect of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has been unearthed. They are very extreemist, even by our standards, and the big shoes and honking nose don't help matters.
So, would a Right-Wing Clown be an elephant entertaining at children's birthday parties?
The RWC sect is so extreemist, they use mind control tactics that the normal ranks of the VRWC would never use, such as using clowns for mind control. I must also remind you that ALL clowns are part of this, not just some. Wait, you didn't need to hear that.

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After a little research, I found a few interesting thingss. The Italian PM, is the same man who said Euroculture is better than Arab culture.
The corruption cases against him are 20 years old.
I'm liking this guy more all the time.
Hmmmmmm.

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EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote: The Italian PM, is the same man who said Euroculture is better than Arab culture.
Gah!! I thought he would know of all those bad italian horror flicks!
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Spagetti westerns are the ULTIMATE proof of Italian cultural superiourity.


Ayaya Ayyy,


Wah Wah Wahhh.


Good, Bad, ugly.
Hmmmmmm.

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The truth comes out.

The PM did NOT say the German was a nazi, he said he would be perfect for the role of stg. Schultz, the fat bumbling prison camp guard, in the TV show "Hogan's Heros." Easiliy bribed, and a loyal party member only when observed by the Gestapo. He was along for the ride, sarcastic about the nazis when he could get away with it.
He was incompetant only through his lack of motivation, and desire to be elsewhere. He also had a hard time being mean, even when it was a job requirement.


"I know NOTHING, I see NOTHING, I hear NOTHING!" (Therefor I REPORT nothing.) Schultz was a good man, in a bad system.


Saying a man is perfect for the part of Schultz, in "Hogan's Heros" is WAY different to calling a man a nazi. Or even saying he would make a good prison guard.
He could just as easily be calling the man an incopetant boob.

He has only half apologised, and said that's as good as it's going to get, remorse wise.
Hmmmmmm.

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Durandal wrote:
So, would a Right-Wing Clown be an elephant entertaining at children's birthday parties?
Clowns are never entertaining. Ever. Unless their tent is burning down or something.

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Bwah hah hah, I gotta admit, I like this guy. He may be corrupt as hell, but the European left hates him, which is an automatic good in my book (the European left loved President Dangle/Clinton, as you may recall), plus he's got personality.
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He may not even be corrupt, as the case against him is 20 years old, and thus suspect due to the timing of bringing charges against him. (funny how for the past 19 years, there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with. Now that he is in office, and holds power?)
Hmmmmmm.

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Durran Korr wrote:Bwah hah hah, I gotta admit, I like this guy. He may be corrupt as hell, but the European left hates him, which is an automatic good in my book (the European left loved President Dangle/Clinton, as you may recall), plus he's got personality.
What the heck is so bad about Clinton? (Other than the fact that he was the worst womanizer in american politics, this side of Ted Kennedy - but that doesn't make a good argument against his political views)
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EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote:He may not even be corrupt, as the case against him is 20 years old, and thus suspect due to the timing of bringing charges against him. (funny how for the past 19 years, there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with. Now that he is in office, and holds power?)
In fact, the charges were brought about 15 years ago, the trial is lasting that long, and there were far more recent trials about fiscal evasion and false accounting that were cancelled due to condonation and depenalization of the crimes.

He is corrupt. Very much so. The very first law his gov passed (abolishing succession taxes) allowed him to save a total of about half a billion Euros in the various carporation he owns.
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Rye wrote:
Durandal wrote:
So, would a Right-Wing Clown be an elephant entertaining at children's birthday parties?
Clowns are never entertaining. Ever. Unless their tent is burning down or something.

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Rye wrote:
Durandal wrote:
So, would a Right-Wing Clown be an elephant entertaining at children's birthday parties?
Clowns are never entertaining. Ever. Unless their tent is burning down or something.

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