Euros have an evil gun culture!

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-07-05 03:36pm

Coyote wrote:Bear in mind it does not say what kinds of guns are allowed. I believe-- corect me if I'm wrong-- that a French gun law states that any weapo that has ever ben used in any nation's military forces canot be owned legally. So that means that a 1776 Brown Bess flintlock would be classified a 'dangerous military firearm'.

I wonder if this means that any civilian firearm that was ever proven to be used in a guerrilla ation could also be rounded up at whim as a 'weapon of war'.....

Errm no that only applies to post-1945 items.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-07-05 04:01pm

SPOOFE wrote:Furthermore, if you take Switzerland out of the inclusion in the stats, mentioned in the article, I'd bet that you lose half the guns right there.

Since Switzerland isn't a member of the EU it was never included in those stats in the first place.

Post by **Coyote** » 2003-07-05 04:37pm

Thanks, Frank, I thought was all military or ex-military firearms.

But as to the Europeans.... so they have a Gun Culture that rivals America's....

The vilest political philosophies: Imperialism, Colonialism, Slavery, Comunism, Nazism.... originted in Europe, also sparking humanity's greatest and most destructive wars....

Europe has a history of monarcy and theocratic rule left behind only in the last hundred years, and not completely at that... for most of their history they have been ruled by kings and bishops, and sparked one of the bloodiest religious wars ever.....

Europeans at various times in history arrogantly divided the world into various territories and spheres and brutally occupied vast continents, raping the environment and plundering natural resources to feed consumerism at home.....

They refuse to execute their deadliest criminals and ignore genocides going on in next-door countries....

Compared to America's list of crimes, I can only hope that one day those barbaric Europeans can elevate themselves to civilized and humane American standards of decency!

Otherwise, I can't see what they complain about in America so much!
Heeheehee.....

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-07-05 07:35pm

Since Switzerland isn't a member of the EU it was never included in those stats in the first place.

I noted that they mentioned the EU, but they first started off by saying Europeans in general, so I didn't know if they were referring to all of Europe, or just the Union.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-07-06 03:59am

SPOOFE wrote:
Since Switzerland isn't a member of the EU it was never included in those stats in the first place.
I noted that they mentioned the EU, but they first started off by saying Europeans in general, so I didn't know if they were referring to all of Europe, or just the Union.

I think it deals with just the union, the article just uses Europe as though it were synonymous with EU.

"Contrary to the common assumption that Europeans are virtually unarmed, an estimated 84 million firearms are legally held in the 15 member states of the EU. Of these, 80 per cent - 67 million guns - are in civilian hands," the report states.
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But in some EU countries, domestic gun ownership is surprisingly high. According to Aaron Karp, co-author of the report: "Citizens of most European countries are more heavily armed than they realise, with an average of 17.4 guns per 100 people in the 15 EU countries alone."

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-07-07 12:18am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Oberleutnant wrote:I've been longing for shooting few rounds with a gun for a long time. I guess the next twelve months in the military will remove that problem.
One year conscripts in a western army have to rank was one of the largest possibul wastes of money on the history of the worlds militaries.

Indeed, to be of any use they should be in for two and a half years, with 5 years in the reserves with plenty of practice to keep them up to par.