ring...... riiiiiiiing...... riiiiiiiiing .... riiiiiiiiiing

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-07-07 02:42pm

....... 7 days.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-07-07 02:47pm

That movie scared the crap out of me. And now I have the DVD.

Everyone must suffer

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-07-07 02:47pm

*Unplugs all monitors and TVs in the house*

Bwahaha, just try it, beeyotch!

*Mini-Samara appears from the pocket TV on my bedside table*

Ring 0 is on Sci-Fi at the moment, but I want to see Ringu first. Ring 2 is on Sky Premier also, aaargh, why not show the bloody original?!

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-07-07 02:49pm

Or she could come out of a mirror or something like that. What I would like to see is what happens when someone fires a shotgun at her.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-07-07 02:54pm

She becomes a bad Photoshop job and pixellates or just ignores it.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-07-07 02:55pm

All Sadako needs is a reflective surface to appear from to kill you.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-07-07 02:57pm

Rubberanvil wrote:All Sadako needs is a reflective surface to appear from to kill you.

Hence another reason the original was scarier and the remake sort of freaky only.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-07-07 03:12pm

Maybe its just me, but when I saw that movie I wondered:

-What if you took an Apollo rocket to the moon, would she still get you.
-or sealed yourself in a matt black room with nothing else.
-or took a rocket and travelled 99.9% the speed of light.
-What if you changed time zones, when does she get you.
-What if you drugged yourself so you couldn't be frightened to death.
-What if you played the movie on national TV, does she kill everyone, and if so in what order, would there be multiple of her or does she do one after the other. If she killed one person per second, she still couldn't do a million people in that one day. Or, would some people get calls "8 days"?

The movie was less scary after that....

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-07 03:13pm

Sadako is, from what i read, just a hallucination induced by a virus that Sadako spirit controls. You don't actually die from Sadako killing you, you die from the virus which either kills you or impregnates a woman with an exact clone of Sadako then kills the woman. You die hallucinating.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-07-07 03:26pm

kojikun wrote:Sadako is, from what i read, just a hallucination induced by a virus that Sadako spirit controls. You don't actually die from Sadako killing you, you die from the virus which either kills you or impregnates a woman with an exact clone of Sadako then kills the woman. You die hallucinating.

So if I drug myself, I die in my sleep. Bummer.

So my only option is freezing my body.... take that Sadako!

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-07-07 03:27pm

That doesn't appear to be the case in "The Ring", but they do plan on re-making the entire trillogy.

hopefully they'll tell you what the fuck Samara/Sadako is/was whatever. In the american release, it's implied that Samara was never human...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-07 03:42pm

Majin Gojira wrote:That doesn't appear to be the case in "The Ring", but they do plan on re-making the entire trillogy.

It does seem the case in The Ring. You just have to watch more carefully. All of the remarkable things you see happening are hallucinations. I don't think you ever see a non-infected person see these crazy things.

hopefully they'll tell you what the fuck Samara/Sadako is/was whatever. In the american release, it's implied that Samara was never human...

Sadako was the daughter of a psychic who was ridiculed and who committed suicide. Sadako herself was gifted with the ability to make images appear on reflective surfaces and the like, as well as able to alter genetics, which is how the virus can do what it does. Shes an evil ghost geneticist with a passion for television.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-07-07 03:58pm

Zoink wrote:-or sealed yourself in a matt black room with nothing else.
-

Frankly, being in a pitch black room when I knew that something like Sadako existed would scare the hell out of me...

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-07-07 04:15pm

Dude, just call the Ghost Busters. Dan Aykryod will kick the SHIT outta any ghost, any where, any time. Awwww yeah.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-07 04:26pm

What movie is this?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-07-07 04:33pm

Bah, the movie is just a moral tale about why pyramid schemes are evil and no good comes of them

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-07-07 04:54pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:What movie is this?

The Ring.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-07-07 05:04pm

kojikun wrote:
Majin Gojira wrote:That doesn't appear to be the case in "The Ring", but they do plan on re-making the entire trillogy.
It does seem the case in The Ring. You just have to watch more carefully. All of the remarkable things you see happening are hallucinations. I don't think you ever see a non-infected person see these crazy things.

Odd virus given all the symbolism of the tape and the hallucinations. Maybe that's where the spirit comes in.

There were some that were seen by others: The Fly that is picked off the screen is implicitly seen by the person at the video editing center. The Ladder the painter uses. I think that's it.

Though the ladder could be seen as "She sees the ladder as" or some such...

hopefully they'll tell you what the fuck Samara/Sadako is/was whatever. In the american release, it's implied that Samara was never human...
Sadako was the daughter of a psychic who was ridiculed and who committed suicide. Sadako herself was gifted with the ability to make images appear on reflective surfaces and the like, as well as able to alter genetics, which is how the virus can do what it does. Shes an evil ghost geneticist with a passion for television.

Ah, That explains thing--I have only seen "The Ring", I just rented "ringu" and will soon compare. Hopefully, they share similar color schemes (I liked the design elements in "The Ring" with a lot of drab colors and an emphasis on Red and Yellow).

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-07 05:39pm

Spooky movie reminds me of Anthony from "It's a Good Life", I really wonder what would happen if those two met....

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-07-07 05:43pm

Also, it should be noted, sadako.....isnt female....

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-07-07 06:01pm

excuse me, are you saying that's a child in drag, no wonder she kills people.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-07-07 06:22pm

Actually its wierder than that....I read up on all the background after seeing the US version of the film....

Here's something from the Ringworld FAQ....

Q: Are the books and manga different from the movies?
A: Very.
The male character from the Ring novel, Asakawa Kazuyuki, was portrayed as just that for both the TV movie (Ring: Kanzenban) and mini-series (Ring: Saishuushou). It wasn't until the feature film that the decision was made to transform the character into a woman, Asakawa Reiko (or Rachel Keller in the American remake). Without a doubt, however, the biggest changes regard the character of Sadako and the "cursed" videotape. The Sadako-videotape relationship was glossed over in the first Ring, and buried in technospeak in Ring 2. To truly understand the storyline we have to look at Ring the novel, where we see that Sadako wasn't a girl at all-- genetically speaking, she was a man.
The famous premise of the movie, that Sadako lurches out of television screens to claim her victims, was the brainchild of screenwriter Takahashi and director Nakata (in the novel, victims experience anxiety, tightening of the chest, and a hallucination of themselves horribly aged-- no Sadako).
Even by mid-novel, protagonist Kazuyuki had uncovered that those who watch the video die seven days later not of supernatural causes but of a kind of virus. Like any virus, this one too must multiply to survive; hence the imperative to copy the videotape and show it to someone else, that the virus may spread from victim to victim. Kazuyuki believed this to be merely a convenient instrument of Sadako's revenge. In fact it was much more. In the book, Sadako wasn't thrown into the well by Ikuma Heihachiro at all, but by a young doctor named Nagao Joutarou. Nagao was also the last-known patient in Japan to be treated for smallpox.
Out alone with Sadako one day, Nagao suddenly finds himself in a lustful rage (which he was to later blame on a smallpox-induced fever) and sexually assaults her. It isn't until afterwards that a shocked Nagao learns Sadako's secret. It seems that she had been born with a condition known as Testicular Feminization Syndrome, meaning that while she outwardly appeared female, Sadako's chromosomal makeup was actually that of a man. She was also born without a uterus, and (as Nagao saw) a pair of testes.
Suddenly ashamed at having been discovered, Sadako mentally screams I'LL KILL YOU! and launches a telepathic attack. Nagao retaliates by strangling her and throwing her into the well... but of course, we know that she was not yet dead. Within the well, Sadako forces her considerable will upwards, where it hangs like a menacing presence until, several years later, the series of rental cabins are built over that very spot. Her mental projections find the perfect medium in videotape, which burn themselves onto the film and await the time that they can be released by someone viewing the tape.
All of this explains the how behind the "cursed videotape," but it still doesn't address the why. Was Sadako's aim in creating the tape merely to exact revenge for her death?
Hardly.
Sadako possessed absolute telekinetic power on a cellular level. She was able to use the medium of the smallpox virus, transmitted to her by her violation at the hands of Nagao, to create something altogether different. Andou Mitsuo, the protagonist of Rasen, discovered the virus to in fact be seven parts smallpox, three parts human genetic code. Because of her unique condition, Sadako was able to encapsulate female and male genetic material within a smallpox sheath, creating an invasive mechanism capable of transmitting her own DNA to the host/victim. This DNA would then replicate within the host, creating a duplicate Sadako (or, more strictly speaking, her own offspring).

"Left alone to rot, unknown and in obscurity. No... I want all of existence to know what it's like, to be Yamamura Sadako." -Sadako, from Rasen.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-07-07 08:47pm

Care to share the link?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-07-07 08:54pm

Here ya go

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-07 08:58pm

the Ringworld site is very good. i suggest you all read every bit of it.