Challenge: An original.. Star Trek design?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-08 03:31am

I curious to see how many of our resident artists could design a startrek ship, with all required systems and such, but with a unique and distinctly new unstartrek feel about it.

i believe the starfleet museum has done this quite well with its designs.

whos up for the challenge? i'd be willing to attempt modelling the ship, if you decided to take me up on this one..

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-08 03:46am

I've got a Klingon battleship idea that's been floating around my head for years, but it would be very much recognisable.

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-07-08 05:51am

An Un-Startrek ship? Do you simply mean 'not a Federation style' ship or merely any ship with blue glowing warp bits to signify it comes from the same setting as Trek? It has to have some Trek lineage, otherwise I could just post any old starship I've made, right?

Frank, wasn't your design basically an old D7 with minor mods, I remember you spoke about it before? If it's practically the same then just modify an existing mesh and you have your design.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-08 01:21pm

Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:An Un-Startrek ship? Do you simply mean 'not a Federation style' ship or merely any ship with blue glowing warp bits to signify it comes from the same setting as Trek? It has to have some Trek lineage, otherwise I could just post any old starship I've made, right?

It has to have the required structures, like places for warp coils, power systems, shields, sensors, etc. You can show some relationship to TOS designs, but make it look new and interesting, so design something to be pre-TOS. As I said, the Starfleet Museum does a good job.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-07-08 01:33pm

And whatever you do, PLEASE don't use those old bland '70s and '80s FASA designs!!! If I see one more piece of crap like this or this I'm gonna run it right through with a Mini-Turbolaser bolt courtesy of my Space Camaro!

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-08 01:39pm

oh one more thing, I'd really enjoy seeing some actual space propulsion on these things, so lets have ROCKETS. but make them realistic, so look up how various systems work.

and no ultra slow propulsion systems either. nuclear thermal = good, nuclear electric = bad. fusion = good. antimatter thermal rocket = good, antimatter light rocket = bad. you get the idea.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-07-08 01:50pm

Also, try to make sure the Newtonian propulsion systems have a combined thrust vector that passes through the ship's center of mass. No more of this having all the rockets at the very tip-top of the ship or the bottom.

Basically I'm saying this: If it looks like when you fire the rockets then all the ship's gonna do is sit there and spin, move the rockets closer to the Cg!

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-08 02:21pm

another benefit would be to include real-world concepts that ahve been altered to be more appropriate in the faster then light future. and give it a near paintjob too

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-07-08 03:28pm

So, a Space:1999 Eagle transport with a flame paintjob then?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-08 03:56pm

Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:So, a Space:1999 Eagle transport with a flame paintjob then?

Haha no

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-08 09:03pm

Actually, the one I showed Kenny was this, FASA's D7 predecessor, their D4. It has everything I dig about the D7, but tweaked to make it more menacing.

As for the battleship idear, it would have an obvious family resemblance, but bigger. This thing is SFB's very crude sketch that kinda goes in the direction I'm thinking, but ouch. The miniature for that design looks 100% better than the drawing. Especially without the deflector dish on the pod, or the nacelles on the boom.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-09 12:43am

Aww noone cares to take my challenge?

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2003-07-09 01:06am

Maybe when I have finished my ISD and the "Mala'ak" Destroyer...

Next week...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-09 01:12am

Crix Dorius wrote:Maybe when I have finished my ISD and the "Mala'ak" Destroyer...

Next week...

I await you.. but post a sketch or something, cause this threads going nowhere

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-07-09 02:52am

Kojikun wrote:I curious to see how many of our resident artists could design a startrek ship, with all required systems and such, but with a unique and distinctly new unstartrek feel about it.

i believe the starfleet museum has done this quite well with its designs.

whos up for the challenge? i'd be willing to attempt modelling the ship, if you decided to take me up on this one..

Some of the designs on that site posted are great...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-09 03:28am

3rd Impact wrote:Some of the designs on that site posted are great...

yep. but noones posted here

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-07-09 04:40am

I might have had a go, but...

a) I don't really do sketches for anything, I make models and test meshes
b) I have too much other shit to finish first
c) I'm thinking of making a Trek freighter, but it would be of more 'modern' design than the Flash Gordon stuff at the museum.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-09 01:26pm

Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:c) I'm thinking of making a Trek freighter, but it would be of more 'modern' design than the Flash Gordon stuff at the museum.

The era look is irrelevant, as long as it looks new and unique and not readilly identifiable as startrek but still has all the trek requirements.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-07-10 03:02am

I'm planning on doing some designs for my "alternate Trek" timeline (same one where my "Insane Borg" design originated). One of the important factors of the timeline is that a catastrophe of cosmic proportions caused subspace to become unstable... so it is still utilized for FTL travel, but ships need to be a lot more resilient to be able to use it. Essentially, more rugged and rough-looking ships.

EDIT: An example of what I'm talking about... warp nacelle pylons that are surrounded by a trianguler pattern of support beams, like the skeleton of an unfinished building.