Enigma wrote:You've lowered the standards on who'd be a loser? If that's true, then I'd put you as a loser. Just because he chose not to go uni or college or decides not to pursue a relationship or that he puts faith in God that he's a loser.
Blow me, loser. He's uneducated, chronically alone after 33 years on this planet, and thinks that God will make it all better. If you can't figure out why that makes him a loser, then I guess you should give him a call and marry him. The two of you will get along just fine.
Hold it. Did he say himself that God will make his life better and give him a wife? Or did he say his life will improve?
Darth Wong wrote:
Enigma wrote:I thought you were a reasonable intelligent human being but seeing this makes me think otherwise.
Funny how you fail to provide any logic or evidence to support your conclusion that a 33 year old virgin who's never had a serious girlfriend, never went to college or university, never got a decent job, fucked up his body, and thinks God will solve all his problems is somehow not a loser. All you say is that I must somehow be unintelligent to connect the dots and draw the obvious conclusion, which only leads me to ask which of this loser's failings you share.
Again, did he say that God will solve all of his problems now? Or did he say eventually?
Darth Wong wrote:
Enigma wrote:Edit: Though I still don't think what you listed about the guy would make him a loser but from other posts you've made about the guy tells me that he needs to cool it. Also I retract in calling you a loser. When I'm heated up I usually say or type things I don't mean.
Funny how you don't retract the part about how I must not be "reasonable" or "intelligent" if I think a 33 year old virgin with bitch-tits, no job, and no education is a loser.
I've made the retraction at the previous post
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"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
Enigma wrote:Hold it. Did he say himself that God will make his life better and give him a wife? Or did he say his life will improve?
He believes God will solve his problems for him. He didn't specify which ones, nor did he specify a timeframe. Are you arguing that it can actually be reasonable to think that the invisible man in the sky will solve your problems?
And frankly, no one should be foolish enough to think the invisible man in the sky will solve your problems for you. It is up to you to solve your own problems. Even most Christians recognize that; there's an old saying that God helps those who help themselves.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Enigma wrote:I still don't think that his choice of lifestyle from which you've mentioned would categorise him as being a loser. The only thing I'd find wrong about him is his attitude. True his choice of working out leaves a lot to be desired but that shouldn't make him a loser.
The only thing you find wrong with him is his workout technique? Did you even read the opening post?
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Enigma wrote:Hold it. Did he say himself that God will make his life better and give him a wife? Or did he say his life will improve?
He believes God will solve his problems for him. He didn't specify which ones, nor did he specify a timeframe. Are you arguing that it can actually be reasonable to think that the invisible man in the sky will solve your problems?
And frankly, no one should be foolish enough to think the invisible man in the sky will solve your problems for you. It is up to you to solve your own problems. Even most Christians recognize that; there's an old saying that God helps those who help themselves.
True, but then he would've meant that God would help him in the long run. Talk to him about it. Ask him in what way would God help him.
ASVS('97)/SDN('03)
"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
Enigma wrote:I still don't think that his choice of lifestyle from which you've mentioned would categorise him as being a loser. The only thing I'd find wrong about him is his attitude. True his choice of working out leaves a lot to be desired but that shouldn't make him a loser.
The only thing you find wrong with him is his workout technique? Did you even read the opening post?
I did. His workout technique and his attitude are the only things I find disapproving. I've got a brother who went to college to be a coputer technician. Upon graduating he learned that there was very little chance of becoming one. Do you know what he does right now? He's a labourer pulling over $700 a week. I didn't go to uni or college but I'm shortly going to receive a delivery run that would net me $600-750 a week. Does that make me a loser? My brother was a virgin until his marriage at age 26. Does that make him a loser?
ASVS('97)/SDN('03)
"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
Enigma wrote:Hold it. Did he say himself that God will make his life better and give him a wife? Or did he say his life will improve?
He believes God will solve his problems for him. He didn't specify which ones, nor did he specify a timeframe. Are you arguing that it can actually be reasonable to think that the invisible man in the sky will solve your problems?
And frankly, no one should be foolish enough to think the invisible man in the sky will solve your problems for you. It is up to you to solve your own problems. Even most Christians recognize that; there's an old saying that God helps those who help themselves.
True, but then he would've meant that God would help him in the long run. Talk to him about it. Ask him in what way would God help him.
I have talked to him about his beliefs on many occasions. Since it invariably degrades into his bigoted belief that it was immoral for my wife and I to get married 10 years ago (since we didn't share the same beliefs), I do not speak to him often, and when I do, it is often unpleasant. I still wonder why the fuck you're trying to defend this idiot. I ask again: did you even read the first post? The guy gained more than a hundred pounds by eating 30 fucking eggs a day and fucked up his colon, he is 33 years old and has never had a serious relationship, he has never had a real job and shows no interest in ever getting one, he has bitch tits, and you think I'm being unfair to call him a loser?
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Can you exercise people...go away? You're making it very difficult to find loser descriptions.
"Man's unfailing capacity to believe what he prefers to be true rather than what the evidence shows to be likely and possible has always astounded me...God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist." -- Academician Prokhor Zakharov
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StarshipTitanic wrote:Can you exercise people...go away? You're making it very difficult to find loser descriptions.
Man, I knew someone was going to say that
But hey, you're right--my apologies. That WAS getting really off-topic, and it's entirely my fault.
Back to the Loser Gods:
Do we have any consensus on who's the biggest loser described thus far?
I'd have to vote for Mike's or RedImperator's, personally. Mine can be a real nitwit, but I don't think he fully compares...not the way I've described him, anyhow.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatin's. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, ya got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man ... and give some back.
-Al Swearengen
Cry woe, destruction, ruin and decay: The worst is death, and death will have his day.
-Ole' Shakey's "Richard II," Act III, scene ii.
Darth Wong wrote:<snip>I have talked to him about his beliefs on many occasions. Since it invariably degrades into his bigoted belief that it was immoral for my wife and I to get married 10 years ago (since we didn't share the same beliefs), I do not speak to him often, and when I do, it is often unpleasant. I still wonder why the fuck you're trying to defend this idiot. I ask again: did you even read the first post? The guy gained more than a hundred pounds by eating 30 fucking eggs a day and fucked up his colon, he is 33 years old and has never had a serious relationship, he has never had a real job and shows no interest in ever getting one, he has bitch tits, and you think I'm being unfair to call him a loser?
Now I have more info. You've only given bits and pieces. All I can say is that person needs to straighten himself out. If he started acting like the other examples of losers posted by others then I'd reconsider my stand on him.
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"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
Enigma wrote:Now I have more info. You've only given bits and pieces. All I can say is that person needs to straighten himself out. If he started acting like the other examples of losers posted by others then I'd reconsider my stand on him.
Look, Mike's is probably the biggest loser of the bunch. The guy works in a completely dead-end job. He's thirty-three. He had to wear adult diapers because he didn't bother to learn a damn thing about dietary habits and health (not because of a disease or something that is more or less random in deciding whom to target, but because of a dietary problem he brought on himself). He is a loser by any stretch of the imagination.
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seanrobertson wrote:I'd have to vote for Mike's or RedImperator's, personally. Mine can be a real nitwit, but I don't think he fully compares...not the way I've described him, anyhow.
I left out parts for brevity's sake.
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963 X-Ray Blues
I know a kid who ate flys, mancala beads, cat food etc... IN THE 6th GRADE!!! He also does extremely poorly on tests, causes him self pain on purpose and hangs around with other idiots.
Enigma wrote:Now I have more info. You've only given bits and pieces. All I can say is that person needs to straighten himself out. If he started acting like the other examples of losers posted by others then I'd reconsider my stand on him.
Since you have revealed via PM that you are a Jehovah's Witness, it's pretty obvious why you are arguing in his defense despite his extensive litany of loser qualifications. The fact that he's a fellow JW automatically makes him worthy of defense in your eyes, because you have to mindlessly defend any fellow cult member. Thanks for demonstrating what's wrong with the JW cult.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
To be honest Mike, I think if he wanted everyone to know he was a JW he would have said it here. I obviously have not read the PM, but I doubt he said that he wanted everybody to know.
And while we're off topic, I think Maximus could kick William Wallace's lightning spewing ass.
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Post #666: 5-24-03, 8:26 am (Hey, why not?)
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Barry (Went to High School with my dad), is STILL attending COMMUNITY COLLEGE, which is what he's been doing since he went to college to avoid the draft. Currently runs the college Magic/AD&D groups.....
Also worked with me in the College Computer Science Lab (doesn't know anything really about computers besides how to play LAN GAMES)....
Used to pay me, to paint his 40k & AD&D miniatures, he's in his fifties, and he's a stereotypical Fantasy/Trek virgin hippy...
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Enigma wrote:Now I have more info. You've only given bits and pieces. All I can say is that person needs to straighten himself out. If he started acting like the other examples of losers posted by others then I'd reconsider my stand on him.
Since you have revealed via PM that you are a Jehovah's Witness, it's pretty obvious why you are arguing in his defense despite his extensive litany of loser qualifications. The fact that he's a fellow JW automatically makes him worthy of defense in your eyes, because you have to mindlessly defend any fellow cult member. Thanks for demonstrating what's wrong with the JW cult.
Funny how you don't claim to hate JWs or christianity but since I told you in a "Private Message" that I am one, letting it make it open season on me?
Then again I was right in the first place. {snipped}I *was* going to reveal it to this group after some time has passed so that when I do mention I'm a JW that it would not affect them since they'd know the type of person that I am. Now unless I am wrong, anyone perception of me here will have changed since they do not know what kind of person that I am. Thanks Mike. Thank you very much. You may resume your insults.
Edit: Did you even read the last part of my previous post? If he acted like the other examples then I'd reconsider. Gee, is it me or do you have a knack of ignoring a person's post that somewhat agrees with you and just go straight and point out what's wrong with him. I've made a retraction and it wasn't enough for you. I've made another retraction and it wasn't enough. I've even made an apology and you seemed to have ignored it.
ASVS('97)/SDN('03)
"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
Enigma, anyone with eyes to read and a brain to understand had already figured out your religion. Really, only a JW feels the need to challenge someone who bashes the JW.
Enigma wrote:Funny how you don't claim to hate JWs or christianity but since I told you in a "Private Message" that I am one, letting it make it open season on me?
Funny how you think that simply saying what you so obviously are constitutes "hatred". Did you really think you had anyone fooled?
Then again I was right in the first place. {snipped}I *was* going to reveal it to this group after some time has passed so that when I do mention I'm a JW that it would not affect them since they'd know the type of person that I am. Now unless I am wrong, anyone perception of me here will have changed since they do not know what kind of person that I am. Thanks Mike. Thank you very much. You may resume your insults.
Whine, whine, whine. The fact remains that you were obviously a JW, and the fact that you even tried to hide it is much more incriminatory than anything I could say about you.
Edit: Did you even read the last part of my previous post? If he acted like the other examples then I'd reconsider. Gee, is it me or do you have a knack of ignoring a person's post that somewhat agrees with you and just go straight and point out what's wrong with him.
Did it ever occur to you that the last part of your previous post was just more bullshit? Everyone thinks you're a moron because you have shown yourself to be one. You honestly seem to think that the litany of horrors I listed in my opening post was NOT ENOUGH to condemn this clown as a loser, so you demand more evidence and act as though your acceptance of further evidence would render your opinion reasonable. All because he's a JW which, whether you admit it or not, forces you as a fellow JW to mindlessly defend him even without a shred of justification. If anything, you have only provided evidence that anyone who voluntarily converts to the JWs needs psychological help.
I've made a retraction and it wasn't enough for you. I've made another retraction and it wasn't enough. I've even made an apology and you seemed to have ignored it.
I've seen your "apologies" and "retractions". At no point have you retracted your initial claim that my opening post was insufficient to classify this bitch-titted no-life no-education no-future no-girlfriend no-brain clown as a loser.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
I hate to distract you folks from the developing flame war, but I'd thought I'd throw in my pathetic loser to the mix and get back on topic.
We'll call him "Bob". Ironically enough, his nickname actually IS Bob, so it's fitting.
Hyperactive kid in his youth. Earned fame as the senior in High School who had the freshmen girls (as well as several middle schoolers) flocking to him. He developed his patented "Me, myself and I" approach to sports on the High School JV soccer team, where he earned a reputation as "The Guy Who Under Any Circumstances, Would Not Pass the Ball". He would blame his general suckiness on the playing field on things like "lack of team support," or "the defense cheated."
He hooked up with his future wife in High School. Infighting and backstabbing were the trademarks of the relationship, and surprisingly enough, little has changed since High School. They broke up when they graduated, but unfortunately the relationship would endure. After High School, Bob went to college in Iowa, where he majored in Alcoholism and Frat Parties. He continues to regale all those who would listen with stories of his drinking prowness in college, an ability that he has not been able to demonstrate since his college days.
After getting washed out of college, he came back and promptly had a kid with ex High School girlfriend. They did the whole courthouse marriage thing, despite the fact that they could in no way support a child. Bob proceeded to get hired and fired by at least seven different employers over a two year period. Bob's new wife soon became a well-established psycho, getting hooked onto hard core drugs and smoking more pot than anybody deserves. Thankfully, her family is rich as hell, and began to throw money into the sinking ship as fast as possible, and became almost the sole means of support for Bob and psycho hose beast wife. Again, infighting and backstabbing defined the relationship, and events soon reached a climax as it became known that Bob's wife now had a second kid on the way. Unconfirmed but credible rumors persist to this day that the second kid is not Bob's.
The relationship between Bob and psycho hose beast reaches a breaking point when a fight results in Bob getting charged with domestic battery. He spends some time in jail, and is eventually released when the two lovebirds decide they want to patch things up.
Desperate for work, Bob gets hired by his best friend, who is a manager at Subway. We'll call him Arbin. Bob promptly goes about telling stories about how Arbin is not a qualified manager, and talks alot of smack about how Bob is carrying the store while Arbin fucks things up. Such lies could not have been further from the truth. Things reached a climax on new years eve, when Bob was supposed to work 'till midnight. Bob fails to show up for his shift, and blames Arbin for faulty scheduling. Several similar incidents later, Bob finds himself off of the list of Subway employees.
About two weeks ago, Bob winds up in Jail again, this time for Parole Violation. Technically, he could have been out a week ago, but they wouldn't release him unless he had a place to live. His parents won't take him now, and none of his friends will. He can't go back to his wife's place, because of the battery charge. Bob will be in jail for a while. Which is unfortunate, because Arbin's wedding is coming up in two months, and Bob is standing up in it. He is also Best Man for a wedding in October for one of our mutual best friends, a guy we'll call Mohdri. It is doubtful that, given his current situation, he will actually be able to attend those two weddings.
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- Old Russian Saying
My Uncle would easily be my first choice. He's on the dole, a complete slacker. He even went to uni, but managed to screw up.
One Xmas, he stayed at our house. He did nothing, apart from sit on his skinny ass and watch tv, and drink my dad's beer. He drank 30 bottles in like 6 days, and it was supposed to be for a newyears party! And when my dad explained to him that he needed it for a party, the Uncle goes out and buys a six pack and drinks that also!
When it came to dinner time, he didn't even bother to help clean up. Apparently, he smoked marijuana and it completely screw up his life.
Enigma wrote:I *was* going to reveal it to this group after some time has passed so that when I do mention I'm a JW that it would not affect them since they'd know the type of person that I am.
I hasn't affected anything, you've had more than enough time to show the kind of person you are.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who did not.