Clone Troopers in Episode 3(Possible Spoilers!)

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2003-07-11 03:00am

I was reading an transcript of an online chat with Robert Coleman, the animation direction for Episode III. During it he said that all of the troopers will be CGI again this time around. But we will see some new types of troopers. I know a lot of people were annoyed that Lucas didn't use actual people in suits of armor. I don't really mind, since they did such a good job in Episode 2. I'm just wondering what you guys think about this news. The chat is part of the official site's hyperspace service so I can't give a link.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-11 04:59am

Maybe we'll see the ARC Clonetroopers from the Dark Horse comics in EP3.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-11 05:46am

There'll be stormtroopers in Episode III, McCallum said.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2003-07-11 06:12am

Since there will be large scale space battles, maybe we will see zero G troopers invading a station or a ship. Were biker-troopers seen in AotC?

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-07-11 06:57am

The troopers were CGI?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-11 07:05am

Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:The troopers were CGI?

Ummm .... YEAH.

Jeezus man. That's just scary. Or maybe we've all become to cynical and the CGI was that good. Not that I thought it looked bad. It looked great.

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-07-11 07:33am

Yes...there was a picture of a regular stormtrooper on starwars.com a couple of months ago. It showed a regular stormie armor all painted to black with several armor pieces painted to red.
Description said it was meant to be a new Senate Guard.

The picture dissapeared from the site after a week....

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2003-07-11 05:31pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Maybe we'll see the ARC Clonetroopers from the Dark Horse comics in EP3.

Sorry, but in the chat Coleman gives a definitive no on seeing ARC troopers in Episode III.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-07-12 06:23am

Maybe we'll see some early version of the Royal Guard? Or some other special group designated to guarding Palpy.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2003-07-12 06:28am

Dorsk 81 wrote:Maybe we'll see some early version of the Royal Guard? Or some other special group designated to guarding Palpy.

They're in Ep.2 inside Palp's office at the beginning when they're discussing the assasination atempt.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-07-12 06:33am

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:Maybe we'll see some early version of the Royal Guard? Or some other special group designated to guarding Palpy.
They're in Ep.2 inside Palp's office at the beginning when they're discussing the assasination atempt.

Oh yea, my bad.

The guys who look like a cross between a Centurian (sp) and the OT Royal Guard, wearing a nasty shade of dark green...IIRC.

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-07-12 07:26am

Vympel wrote:
Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:The troopers were CGI?
Ummm .... YEAH.

Jeezus man. That's just scary. Or maybe we've all become to cynical and the CGI was that good. Not that I thought it looked bad. It looked great.

No seriously tough, i didnt even notice nor THINK that maybe the troopers were CGI before this thread.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2003-07-12 09:34am

I must admit, it is some of the better CGI work in that film.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2003-07-12 11:05am

Dorsk 81 wrote:
KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:Maybe we'll see some early version of the Royal Guard? Or some other special group designated to guarding Palpy.
They're in Ep.2 inside Palp's office at the beginning when they're discussing the assasination atempt.
Oh yea, my bad. The guys who look like a cross between a Centurian (sp) and the OT Royal Guard, wearing a nasty shade of dark green...IIRC.

Nope. The red Royal Guards were in AOTC, stationed at Palpie's office door. We see the blue Senate Guards later when Mace Windu met Yoda in the large Senate chamber.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-07-12 11:49am

Most of the CGI work with the Clonetroopers was absolutely awesome, but some of it was just terrible. There are some close-up scenes that are blatantly fake, and a scene where Obi-Wan and Lama Su are looking over a regiment of clonetroopers that is obviously fake. There is nothing wrong with using low tech (i.e. dudes in clonetrooper armor) when necessary; Peter Jackson isn't afraid to use low tech, and he does so with great success. Obviously the CGI is going to be absolutely necessary for many of the scenes, but I think real actors would have been better for a select few of them.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-07-12 04:09pm

Old Plympto wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:
KhyronTheBackstabber wrote: They're in Ep.2 inside Palp's office at the beginning when they're discussing the assasination atempt.
Oh yea, my bad. The guys who look like a cross between a Centurian (sp) and the OT Royal Guard, wearing a nasty shade of dark green...IIRC.
Nope. The red Royal Guards were in AOTC, stationed at Palpie's office door. We see the blue Senate Guards later when Mace Windu met Yoda in the large Senate chamber.

Yea, I remember blue/green ones in his office, didn't remember seeing any red ones though. I'll have a look later.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2003-07-12 06:34pm

Dorsk 81 wrote: Yea, I remember blue/green ones in his office, didn't remember seeing any red ones though. I'll have a look later.

I didn't notice them untill the third time I watched the movie. They kind of blend into the background.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-12 07:54pm

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote: Yea, I remember blue/green ones in his office, didn't remember seeing any red ones though. I'll have a look later.
I didn't notice them untill the third time I watched the movie. They kind of blend into the background.

Yeah, the red walls are a bit wierd. Maybe they were painted that way on purpose to camouflage the guards.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-12 08:14pm

They're probably a lot easier to see in real life then on film. Film tends to flatten everything out.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-12 09:28pm

vakundok wrote:Since there will be large scale space battles, maybe we will see zero G troopers invading a station or a ship. Were biker-troopers seen in AotC?

No, however they were originally going to be in it, and made there way into the previsualization of the battle. It seems quite a lot got cut for time.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-07-12 09:33pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:No, however they were originally going to be in it, and made there way into the previsualization of the battle. It seems quite a lot got cut for time.

Yeah, the pre-visualization bit's on the DVD. There's about three clones riding speeder bikes and they ride under one of those big spider droids and toss a bomb on it; blasts the thing to pieces.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-15 11:37am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:No, however they were originally going to be in it, and made there way into the previsualization of the battle. It seems quite a lot got cut for time.
Yeah, the pre-visualization bit's on the DVD. There's about three clones riding speeder bikes and they ride under one of those big spider droids and toss a bomb on it; blasts the thing to pieces.

This was documented in the Inside the Worlds of Attack of the Clones.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-07-15 07:54pm

Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:The troopers were CGI?

Not a single clone trooper suit was actually made.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-07-15 07:55pm

Durran Korr wrote:Most of the CGI work with the Clonetroopers was absolutely awesome, but some of it was just terrible. There are some close-up scenes that are blatantly fake, and a scene where Obi-Wan and Lama Su are looking over a regiment of clonetroopers that is obviously fake. There is nothing wrong with using low tech (i.e. dudes in clonetrooper armor) when necessary; Peter Jackson isn't afraid to use low tech, and he does so with great success. Obviously the CGI is going to be absolutely necessary for many of the scenes, but I think real actors would have been better for a select few of them.

There's no reason why Obi vs Jango needed CGI at all. Instead of a doll that looks like it's made with Play Doh, we'd should have invisible wires.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-15 09:33pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:Most of the CGI work with the Clonetroopers was absolutely awesome, but some of it was just terrible. There are some close-up scenes that are blatantly fake, and a scene where Obi-Wan and Lama Su are looking over a regiment of clonetroopers that is obviously fake. There is nothing wrong with using low tech (i.e. dudes in clonetrooper armor) when necessary; Peter Jackson isn't afraid to use low tech, and he does so with great success. Obviously the CGI is going to be absolutely necessary for many of the scenes, but I think real actors would have been better for a select few of them.
There's no reason why Obi vs Jango needed CGI at all. Instead of a doll that looks like it's made with Play Doh, we'd should have invisible wires.

But, the battle looked entirely real.