Best Music

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-11 07:35pm

YT300000 wrote:Damn, no edit button. Some mod fix that URL tag please.

Anyway, the URL is http://www.benandgrover.com/ep6/music/ep6ost16.zip

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-07-11 08:07pm

Starwars without a doubt... although Horner did some good music for WOK but nothing compared to Williams.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-07-11 09:11pm

YT300000 wrote:
Alyeska wrote:Star Trek easy. On average Star Wars had far better music, but the best Trek music has it beat. Goldsmith, Horner, McCarthy, and Eidelman all did some fantastic scores and songs.
IMO the Emperor's Throne Room ([urlhttp://www.benandgrover.com/ep6/music/ep6ost16.zip[/url]) is the best bit of SW music in existence, and the best piece I have ever heard. The same goes for The Imperial March, Duel of the Fates, The Force, Into the Trap and many many others.

All of the above mentioned own any Star Trek music.

Enterprise-B/Kirk Dies, Battle in the Mutara Nebula, Star Trek VI Overature, and the TMP+Klingon theme combo from ST5 own the SW themes.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-11 09:15pm

Alyeska wrote:Enterprise-B/Kirk Dies, Battle in the Mutara Nebula, Star Trek VI Overature, and the TMP+Klingon theme combo from ST5 own the SW themes.

In your oppinion, yes. But not in mine.

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-07-11 09:30pm

Alyeska wrote:Enterprise-B/Kirk Dies, Battle in the Mutara Nebula, Star Trek VI Overature, and the TMP+Klingon theme combo from ST5 own the SW themes.

Sure they do... keep telling youself that

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-07-11 10:20pm

Problem with these things is, they're all opinion. WE NEED CONCRETE FACTS DAMNIT!

thecreech · Post by **thecreech** » 2003-07-11 10:41pm

Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:Problem with these things is, they're all opinion. WE NEED CONCRETE FACTS DAMNIT!

Yeah we need calculations for this

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-07-12 05:17am

thecreech wrote:
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:Problem with these things is, they're all opinion. WE NEED CONCRETE FACTS DAMNIT!
Yeah we need calculations for this

The closest thing I have Is the words of Dr Walker here at Weber State but like that counts for much

CaptJodan · Post by **CaptJodan** » 2003-07-12 04:08pm

This pretty easily goes to Wars. I mean, out of all Trek music, I enjoyed WOK very much, but nothing sends a chill down your spine like the Imperial March, or the Emperor's theme. It really isn't even a fair fight, but then who said it had to be.

(Edit: I'm not a music major, but I have played music in my time and do own WOK, and all other Trek cds. You can tell simply from listening to them that the complexity of William's music is higher than the complexity of WOK. This is generally true thoughout the rest of Trek music. Maybe that's how you can calulate it...get someone who can calculate complexity)

Atomik Chicken · Post by **Atomik Chicken** » 2003-07-12 11:49pm

My opinion: SW has some classics of film music, ST has some okay ones.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-13 12:23am

CaptJodan wrote:This pretty easily goes to Wars. I mean, out of all Trek music, I enjoyed WOK very much, but nothing sends a chill down your spine like the Imperial March, or the Emperor's theme. It really isn't even a fair fight, but then who said it had to be.

(Edit: I'm not a music major, but I have played music in my time and do own WOK, and all other Trek cds. You can tell simply from listening to them that the complexity of William's music is higher than the complexity of WOK. This is generally true thoughout the rest of Trek music. Maybe that's how you can calulate it...get someone who can calculate complexity)

Compexity in music can be seen with a casual glance at the score, if you can read music, that is.

Complexity in and of itself does not equal superiority, however. How many mind-bogglingly complex guitar solos have you heard, without the world of academic music giving them the time of day? The Imperial March is in no way, shape, or form a complex piece, for example. It works due to it's cord structure and rythms.

Matt7 · Post by **Matt7** » 2003-07-13 03:11am

It's true: I'm a trumpet player (pretty good I think, but no formal training other than high school band and jazz band), and I can play almost everything in SW(excluding some of the double and triple tonguing that occurs a few times, especially in the Imperial March (if you know what that means)...
SW music isn't that hard, but it sounds excellent.

Matt7 · Post by **Matt7** » 2003-07-13 03:39am

And besides: all the music teachers I know (many) use Star Wars as the example for knowing what a perfect 5th sounds like (first 2 notes of the SW theme)

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-07-15 07:25pm

Star Wars has the Imperial March, victory to Wars. Okay Star Trek has had some really good stuff over the years, but I find most of it to be quite forgettable and nothing like the Imperial March, Duel of the Fates, or the Emperor's theme (buggered if I know what the real name for that piece is) - those have stuck in my mind for years.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-07-15 07:43pm

Some of the music in The Lion King was pretty awesome. The Stampede Theme is my favorite.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-07-15 08:49pm

Matt7 wrote:What has the best music, Star Wars, or Star Trek?

When a smash-mouth tackle knocks the teeth out of a running back or a linebacker cold-cocks a quarterback in college football, it isn't a Star Trek theme one hears from the band. One hears The Imperial March...

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-07-17 05:30pm

I loved the Battle of Hoth. TIE Fighter Attack was pretty good too.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-07-17 06:31pm

jegs2 wrote:When a smash-mouth tackle knocks the teeth out of a running back or a linebacker cold-cocks a quarterback in college football, it isn't a Star Trek theme one hears from the band. One hears The Imperial March...

That and Mars.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-07-17 06:41pm

Darth Servo wrote:
jegs2 wrote:When a smash-mouth tackle knocks the teeth out of a running back or a linebacker cold-cocks a quarterback in college football, it isn't a Star Trek theme one hears from the band. One hears The Imperial March...
That and Mars.

Ahh Holts The Planets

I love that compilation of themes based on the planets mythilogical origins.

Mars the Bringer of War

Venus the Bringer of Peace

Mercury the Winged Messenger

Jupiter the Bringer of Jollity

Saturn the Bringer of Old Age

Uranus The Magician

Neptune the Mystic

Its too bad the Planet Pluto hadn't been discovered yet cause a theme about the lord of underwold would have been real cool.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-17 07:12pm

Star Trek has some truly incredible music, but its the main theme for Star Wars that takes it for me.

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