Real Conspiray Theories?

Kitsune · Post by **Kitsune** » 2003-07-11 06:04pm

I am aksing what people consider to be be real conspiracy Theories? I am not talking about little green men, governm,ents trying to take over the world, or anything like that. I am referring to events that simply did not occur like the have been present and what gives you the opinion that you hold?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-07-11 06:15pm

JFK assassination was a conspiracy. More than one person was involved, which is what makes it a conspiracy. Plus there was the whole Lee Harvey Oswald being killed by a mafia boss too.

Kitsune · Post by **Kitsune** » 2003-07-11 06:22pm

Rye wrote:JFK assassination was a conspiracy. More than one person was involved, which is what makes it a conspiracy. Plus there was the whole Lee Harvey Oswald being killed by a mafia boss too.

I wonder about that but know that the shots can be made in the time alotted by one person. I am suspicious but I have not seen enough evidence to definateively state that it is a conspiracy theory. I also have read susicious material about Robert Kennedy as well but cannot say anything Definatively.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-07-11 06:25pm

Rye wrote:JFK assassination was a conspiracy. More than one person was involved, which is what makes it a conspiracy. Plus there was the whole Lee Harvey Oswald being killed by a mafia boss too.

Of course not.

Didn't you see the Orlando Jones show. It was confirmed that he acted alone, and in fact, used a, magic bullet. Yes, the bullet was magic.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-07-11 06:33pm

The only way for to explain the JFK assasination without a conspiracy theory is to suspend the laws of physics.

As for other real conspiracy theories, there's always the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-07-11 06:44pm

Ah, yes, the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is the only true 'conspiracy', but it is so all-encompassing that there is no need for any other conspiracy theory, anyways.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-07-12 11:51pm

The JFK and RFK assasinations. Both have so many things about them that don't add up. Not to mention so much destroyed evidence and accounts that don't square up. Something's been covered up.

Roswell just doesn't add up. I don't think it's aliens or any shit like that. But something sure as hell crashed and it wasn't a weather balloon. I think it's most likely a experimental aircraft or something like that. But it doesn't add up with the weather balloon BS.

Oh, and Neolong, it was the Dave Chappell Show.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-12 11:57pm

In about thirty years we`ll know the truth about JFKs and RFKs assassinations,other conspiracy Hoffa where did they dumped his body.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-07-12 11:57pm

Hoffa isn't really a conspiracy. Just a mystery.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-13 12:00am

What was being covered up at Roswell was a sensitive, top secret, radar target, not a weather balloon.
But the thing that I cannot understand is why the Intelligence Officer for the ONLY nuclear capable bomber unit in the Air Force said they had a flying saucer. The 509th should have had the cream of the crop on staff, if Jesse Marcell (s/p?) was so incompetent, what was he doing in that unit?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-07-13 12:01am

Watergate, of course. It never really happened. Deep Voice didn't really exist.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-13 12:03am

Stormbringer wrote:
Roswell just doesn't add up. I don't think it's aliens or any shit like that. But something sure as hell crashed and it wasn't a weather balloon. I think it's most likely a experimental aircraft or something like that. But it doesn't add up with the weather balloon BS.

What exactly doesn’t add up, if something major crashed why wasn't any form of fire fighting unit called out? The only thing that even hints that something might have happened that day is that many personal where reassigned shortly after. But that reassignment was already scheduled as part of an Air force organization.

And more importantly, why the fuck keep it secrete this long? There's nothing that could be flying then that wouldn't be obsolete today. The US goverment will admit to missing and never recovered thermonuclear bombs and let news crews fly on B-2's yet hide the lose of an obsolete aircraft lost half a century ago? Sounds like conspiracy theory nut thinking to me, not logic.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-13 12:06am

Frank Hipper wrote:What was being covered up at Roswell was a sensitive, top secret, radar target, not a weather balloon.
But the thing that I cannot understand is why the Intelligence Officer for the ONLY nuclear capable bomber unit in the Air Force said they had a flying saucer. The 509th should have had the cream of the crop on staff, if Jesse Marcell (s/p?) was so incompetent, what was he doing in that unit?

They must have really found a UFO and decided to go with the stupid weather ballon to cover the story,just recently the jerks that created a new lie with the crash test dummies to explain the alien sightings,would you be dumb enough to confuse a 6 foot tall dummy with a 4 or 5 foot alien.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-13 12:14am

HemlockGrey wrote:Watergate, of course. It never really happened. Deep Voice didn't really exist.

Deep Throat.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-07-13 12:15am

Deep Throat.

Uh...no thanks, try Ein...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-13 12:30am

Sea Skimmer wrote:And more importantly, why the fuck keep it secrete this long? There's nothing that could be flying then that wouldn't be obsolete today. The US goverment will admit to missing and never recovered thermonuclear bombs and let news crews fly on B-2's yet hide the lose of an obsolete aircraft lost half a century ago? Sounds like conspiracy theory nut thinking to me, not logic.

Well, one could always point out that they waited fifty years to change their story. None of that whole situation makes any damn sense.. I chalk it up to some kind of next-gen craft being prototyped. Perhaps they even built one of those damn nuclear-saucers.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-13 12:36am

SirNitram wrote:
Well, one could always point out that they waited fifty years to change their story. None of that whole situation makes any damn sense.. I chalk it up to some kind of next-gen craft being prototyped. Perhaps they even built one of those damn nuclear-saucers.

No reason to keep even that secret either. The nuclear powered SLAM missile isn't classified today despite its feasible design and near unstoppable capabilities. Hell its nuclear ramjet was actually test fired on several occasions.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-13 12:52am

HemlockGrey wrote:
Deep Throat.
Uh...no thanks, try Ein...

That was the informant's alias.

And blowjobs don't rank especially high on my list of requests.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-07-13 01:00am

My theory on JFK.

1. Mafia helps put Kennedy in power, I couldn't remember much about this bit, but I remember coming up a lot in Modern History when I studied it last year.

2. Kennedy gets tough on Mafia, this obviously angers them. They use Government links to make sure they can get a cover up/immunity thing happening, they also find that many people are angry at JFK. They all conspire to kill him.

3. Oswald and 2 others kill him in Dealey Plaza, Oswald is set up to take the fall. He's shot before he can publically testify.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-13 04:10am

Gandalf wrote:1. Mafia helps put Kennedy in power, I couldn't remember much about this bit, but I remember coming up a lot in Modern History when I studied it last year.

Didn't need to. He was popular and there was a rather large us-soviet
missile gap which he blamed on the eisenhower administration even tho it
was truman who killed the early missile programmes and ike who
reinstituted them.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-07-13 09:12pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Well, one could always point out that they waited fifty years to change their story. None of that whole situation makes any damn sense.. I chalk it up to some kind of next-gen craft being prototyped. Perhaps they even built one of those damn nuclear-saucers.
No reason to keep even that secret either. The nuclear powered SLAM missile isn't classified today despite its feasible design and near unstoppable capabilities. Hell its nuclear ramjet was actually test fired on several occasions.

No reason to save beauracratic inertia. I think at this point it's a face saving thing.

And as to fire fighting eqipment, dirt doesn't burn and according to the accounts the suspicious stuff didn't happen till at least a day after. Long enough for fuel to burn out.

They're hiding something. The question is what and why.