University firewalls

OT: anything goes!

Moderator: Edi

Post Reply
User avatar
Shinova
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 10193
Joined: 2002-10-03 08:53pm
Location: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

University firewalls

Post by Shinova »

Do those things generally block things like Kazaa also?
What's her bust size!?

It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
Dalton
For Those About to Rock We Salute You
For Those About to Rock We Salute You
Posts: 22640
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:16pm
Location: New York, the Fuck You State
Contact:

Re: University firewalls

Post by Dalton »

Shinova wrote:Do those things generally block things like Kazaa also?
I'd say so. KaZaA usually uses a certain port (1214, IIRC) so it's rather easy to block it on a firewall.
Image
Image
To Absent Friends
Dalton | Admin Smash | Knight of the Order of SDN

"y = mx + bro" - Surlethe
"You try THAT shit again, kid, and I will mod you. I will
mod you so hard, you'll wish I were Dalton." - Lagmonster

May the way of the Hero lead to the Triforce.
User avatar
Darth Wong
Sith Lord
Sith Lord
Posts: 70028
Joined: 2002-07-03 12:25am
Location: Toronto, Canada
Contact:

Post by Darth Wong »

Any firewall with a default-deny policy will block file-sharing services. If I wanted to set up a really secure large intranet for a bunch of students, I'd use HTTP and FTP proxies and then disable packet forwarding entirely. Slam the door down.
Image
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing

"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC

"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness

"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html
User avatar
Arthur_Tuxedo
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5637
Joined: 2002-07-23 03:28am
Location: San Francisco, California

Post by Arthur_Tuxedo »

I'm not sure how they did it, but the assholes at my uni throttled the bandwidth on p2p networks down to like 50 bytes/second. Cockstains. Glad I'm not gonna be living on-campus anymore.
"I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Muhammad Ali

"Dating is not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be a heart-pounding, stomach-wrenching, gut-churning exercise in pitting your fear of rejection and public humiliation against your desire to find a mate. Enjoy." - Darth Wong
User avatar
SyntaxVorlon
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5954
Joined: 2002-12-18 08:45pm
Location: Places
Contact:

Post by SyntaxVorlon »

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I'm not sure how they did it, but the assholes at my uni throttled the bandwidth on p2p networks down to like 50 bytes/second. Cockstains. Glad I'm not gonna be living on-campus anymore.
Are you sure that's 50 BYTES persec or 50 KBs?
50 bytes/s less than a 2800 baud modem can get.
User avatar
Arthur_Tuxedo
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5637
Joined: 2002-07-23 03:28am
Location: San Francisco, California

Post by Arthur_Tuxedo »

That's not a typo, 50 bytes/second as in .05 kb/second. It took days to get an .mp3
"I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Muhammad Ali

"Dating is not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be a heart-pounding, stomach-wrenching, gut-churning exercise in pitting your fear of rejection and public humiliation against your desire to find a mate. Enjoy." - Darth Wong
User avatar
Xenophobe3691
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4334
Joined: 2002-07-24 08:55am
Location: University of Central Florida, Orlando, FL
Contact:

Post by Xenophobe3691 »

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I'm not sure how they did it, but the assholes at my uni throttled the bandwidth on p2p networks down to like 50 bytes/second. Cockstains. Glad I'm not gonna be living on-campus anymore.
Yep, they did the same thing in our school when everyone used AIM and KaZaA. Only us with a marginal bit of network skills could get past (They weren't that hard, they were just impossible for the normal kid to get past if they didn't know anything about computers)
Dark Heresy: Dance Macabre - Imperial Psyker Magnus Arterra

BoTM
Proud Decepticon

Post 666 Made on Fri Jul 04, 2003 @ 12:48 pm
Post 1337 made on Fri Aug 22, 2003 @ 9:18 am
Post 1492 Made on Fri Aug 29, 2003 @ 5:16 pm

Hail Xeno: Lord of Calculus -- Ace Pace
Image
BrYaN19kc
Jedi Knight
Posts: 682
Joined: 2002-11-19 10:14pm

Post by BrYaN19kc »

Yes! Our firewalls block MIRC/KAZAA/ICQ and just about anything else we can find.

It's not to be mean to students. They don't realize that there is just so much bandwidth to go around. We went through this war year before last on campus.

On our campus, Internet access is provided at no additional charge to the students. They can purchase a nic card if they don't have one and they are provided the logon name and password. The only charge is a five dollar computer serivces charge.

Our Internet service, for the most part, is paid for by the state so we have to follow certain guidelines from the state when it comes to access.

Students living in the dorms do have the option of getting their own private DSL service or using our service.
Image
Nathan F
Resident Redneck
Posts: 4979
Joined: 2002-09-10 08:01am
Location: Around the corner
Contact:

Post by Nathan F »

Luckily, UT doesn't block much of anything. I have yet to find anything that is actually blocked, anyways, I use Direct Connect to download anything I get, and, it being one of the lesser known P2P proggies and using a different kind of format that doesn't have a centralized server, I doubt it will be locked down very soon.
User avatar
phongn
Rebel Leader
Posts: 18487
Joined: 2002-07-03 11:11pm

Post by phongn »

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I'm not sure how they did it, but the assholes at my uni throttled the bandwidth on p2p networks down to like 50 bytes/second. Cockstains. Glad I'm not gonna be living on-campus anymore.
It's called packet shaping. The system can look at various packets and decide which ones get priority (usually basic HTTP and FTP traffic) whilst slowing down things like P2P.

Most universities implement it so that real traffic can get through (at Northwestern, until they put in packet shaping their multiple OC-3 lines were being overloaded)
User avatar
Arthur_Tuxedo
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5637
Joined: 2002-07-23 03:28am
Location: San Francisco, California

Post by Arthur_Tuxedo »

BrYaN19kc wrote:Yes! Our firewalls block MIRC/KAZAA/ICQ and just about anything else we can find.

It's not to be mean to students. They don't realize that there is just so much bandwidth to go around. We went through this war year before last on campus.

On our campus, Internet access is provided at no additional charge to the students. They can purchase a nic card if they don't have one and they are provided the logon name and password. The only charge is a five dollar computer serivces charge.

Our Internet service, for the most part, is paid for by the state so we have to follow certain guidelines from the state when it comes to access.

Students living in the dorms do have the option of getting their own private DSL service or using our service.
My school is plugged directly into the backbone (OC-192). No bandwidth issues there. It's because they were afraid of being sued by the forces of evil (aka the RIAA)
"I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Muhammad Ali

"Dating is not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be a heart-pounding, stomach-wrenching, gut-churning exercise in pitting your fear of rejection and public humiliation against your desire to find a mate. Enjoy." - Darth Wong
BrYaN19kc
Jedi Knight
Posts: 682
Joined: 2002-11-19 10:14pm

Post by BrYaN19kc »

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:
BrYaN19kc wrote:Yes! Our firewalls block MIRC/KAZAA/ICQ and just about anything else we can find.

It's not to be mean to students. They don't realize that there is just so much bandwidth to go around. We went through this war year before last on campus.

On our campus, Internet access is provided at no additional charge to the students. They can purchase a nic card if they don't have one and they are provided the logon name and password. The only charge is a five dollar computer serivces charge.

Our Internet service, for the most part, is paid for by the state so we have to follow certain guidelines from the state when it comes to access.

Students living in the dorms do have the option of getting their own private DSL service or using our service.
My school is plugged directly into the backbone (OC-192). No bandwidth issues there. It's because they were afraid of being sued by the forces of evil (aka the RIAA)

Our policy was initially developed back when there were definite bandwidth issues. Actually, it still is with our wireless network. It all esclated when the lawsuit issues came into play.

Actually, I totally agree with a lot of our policy because my team is the one that has to deal with all the problems that arise from misuse of the resources. My problem with it is that it's not everybody that abuses things, but everybody has to pay. It's too bad that couldn't be changed. He have tried a few times a easing some restrictions, but it's only a matter of a couple of weeks before we find ourselves putting them back into place.
Image
Post Reply